Re: secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt

2009-08-17 Thread Tom.Petch
; draft-ietf-netconf-partial-l...@tools.ietf.org Subject: RE: secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt Tom, Thanks for responding to my comments. Allow me to respond. You wrote: As a participant in netconf, I see authorization as one of those topics which the Working Group

Re: secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt

2009-08-14 Thread Andy Bierman
Wes Hardaker wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:55:15 -0700, Andy Bierman i...@andybierman.com said: AB Oherwise the agent would deadlock. AB discard-changes does not affect the running configuration. No, but it does affect the other users notion of changes. You should never be allowed to

Re: secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt

2009-08-14 Thread Wes Hardaker
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:26:54 -0700, Andy Bierman i...@andybierman.com said: AB discard-changes only works because authorization is ignored, AB otherwise the agent would be deadlocked. Huh why would discard-changes be authorization ignorant??? That's just as unsafe (unless you're only

Re: secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt

2009-08-14 Thread Wes Hardaker
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:55:15 -0700, Andy Bierman i...@andybierman.com said: AB Oherwise the agent would deadlock. AB discard-changes does not affect the running configuration. No, but it does affect the other users notion of changes. You should never be allowed to discard changes that

Re: secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt

2009-08-13 Thread Tom.Petch
- Original Message - From: Stephen Hanna sha...@juniper.net To: i...@ietf.org; sec...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org; draft-ietf-netconf-partial-l...@tools.ietf.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 4:28 PM I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing effort to

RE: secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt

2009-08-13 Thread Stephen Hanna
Subject: Re: secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt - Original Message - From: Stephen Hanna sha...@juniper.net To: i...@ietf.org; sec...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org; draft-ietf-netconf-partial-l...@tools.ietf.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 4:28 PM I have

RE: secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt

2009-08-13 Thread Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
...@tools.ietf.org Subject: RE: secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt Tom, Thanks for responding to my comments. Allow me to respond. You wrote: As a participant in netconf, I see authorization as one of those topics which the Working Group sees as necessary but cannot

Re: secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt

2009-08-13 Thread Bert (IETF) Wijnen
- From: Tom.Petch [mailto:sisyp...@dial.pipex.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:00 AM To: Stephen Hanna; sec...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org; draft-ietf-netconf-partial-l...@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt - Original Message - From

RE: secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt

2009-08-13 Thread Stephen Hanna
; draft-ietf-netconf-partial-l...@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt Stephen, I think it is your first bullet point. We have not standardize it yet. And so it is implementation dependent as to what authorization is used. Bert Stephen

Re: secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt

2009-08-13 Thread Andy Bierman
Stephen Hanna wrote: Thanks to Dan and Bert for answering my question. If most NETCONF implementations authenticate users and implement some form of authorization scheme, there should be no problem with including text in draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt that says NETCONF servers that

Re: secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt

2009-08-13 Thread Andy Bierman
Wes Hardaker wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:26:54 -0700, Andy Bierman i...@andybierman.com said: AB discard-changes only works because authorization is ignored, AB otherwise the agent would be deadlocked. Huh why would discard-changes be authorization ignorant??? That's just as

secdir review of draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt

2009-08-10 Thread Stephen Hanna
I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area directors. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like