Re: [Ietf-dkim] replay clues

2023-02-11 Thread Dave Crocker
On 2/11/2023 4:48 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: asking good questions that deserve consideration. Steve, There is a draft problem statement that seeks to explore the problem space. Perhaps you can suggest specific additions to it that should be made and fleshed out? That is, after all, the

Re: [Ietf-dkim] replay clues

2023-02-11 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, FWIW, as this discussion has a bit of a flavour of one person arguing with a bigger bunch of people, I'd like to say that Mike is asking good questions that deserve consideration. I don't have a position as to what may or may not be worth doing in this space, but I figure I'll find it

Re: [Ietf-dkim] DKIM Replay Problem Statement and Scenarios -01 draft posted

2023-02-11 Thread Michael Thomas
On 2/10/23 9:36 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 12:06 PM Evan Burke wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 11:47 AM Dave Crocker wrote: On 2/10/2023 11:35 AM, Wei Chuang wrote: > ARC is a tool to help support modern Indirect Mail Flows, and I

Re: [Ietf-dkim] replay clues

2023-02-11 Thread Michael Thomas
On 2/10/23 9:23 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 8:09 PM Michael Thomas wrote: I've always thought that the likelihood of a protocol level solution for this issue is pretty close to zero if not zero. The various proposed solutions in the problem draft