Re: [ietf-dkim] l= statistics was 23 again (sorry John) was Output

2011-05-10 Thread Hector Santos
Alessandro Vesely wrote: On 08/May/11 19:13, Dave CROCKER wrote: In practical terms for the current world, what is the likelihood that a signer has any information about the 'type' of an email address? How can a signer possibly know that an addressee is a mailing list??? Currently, it

Re: [ietf-dkim] Issue: Consider deprecating l=

2011-05-10 Thread J.D. Falk
On May 9, 2011, at 5:14 PM, John Levine wrote: I think it was a mistake to include l= in the first place, but I find Murray's arguments against taking it out now persuasive. Agreed (which is a -1 to removal.) I would also really like to have a better idea of how people are using it,

Re: [ietf-dkim] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-dkim-mailinglists-08.txt

2011-05-10 Thread J.D. Falk
On May 8, 2011, at 11:16 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: -Original Message- From: Franck Martin [mailto:fmar...@linkedin.com] Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 9:12 PM To: Murray S. Kucherawy; ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-dkim-mailinglists-08.txt

Re: [ietf-dkim] Ticket #24

2011-05-10 Thread J.D. Falk
On May 6, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: -Original Message- From: ietf-dkim-boun...@mipassoc.org [mailto:ietf-dkim-boun...@mipassoc.org] On Behalf Of John Levine Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 11:15 AM To: ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org Cc: barryle...@computer.org Subject: Re:

Re: [ietf-dkim] Issue: Consider deprecating l=

2011-05-10 Thread Charles Lindsey
On Tue, 10 May 2011 00:02:36 +0100, Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org wrote: That was quick. I believe we already have enough objections to say that we do NOT have rough consensus for deprecating l= at this time. I'll close the issue in the tracker (issue #26), and we will leave it as it

[ietf-dkim] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dkim-mailinglists-10.txt

2011-05-10 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Keys Identified Mail Working Group of the IETF. Title : DKIM And Mailing Lists Author(s) : Murray S. Kucherawy Filename:

[ietf-dkim] PROTO writeup for draft-ietf-dkim-mailinglists-10

2011-05-10 Thread Barry Leiba
The DKIM Working Group requests the publication of draft-ietf-dkim-mailinglists-10 as a BCP. Alternatively, this document might be suitable for Pete's Applicability Statement experiment, at the Proposed Standard level. Please see the attached PROTO writeup. Barry, DKIM working group chair PROTO

Re: [ietf-dkim] Ticket #24

2011-05-10 Thread Barry Leiba
To be concise, here are the proposed changes.  The group's preferred change, #1, is this: 1. Add: --- 6.1.n.  Validate Multiple Header Field Occurrences Through inadvertence or malice, a message may be received having multiple occurrences of single only header fields per [RFC5322]. To

Re: [ietf-dkim] Output summary - Keep your Eye on the Prize!

2011-05-10 Thread Barry Leiba
We've had a bit of discussion in this thread (and elsewhere) about this, but I need to get a clear view of consensus.  Doug agrees with Hector's note, below, and Dave and Murray do not.  I'd like to hear from others within the next few days, about whether you think we should make the change

[ietf-dkim] Final version of 4871bis

2011-05-10 Thread Barry Leiba
Murray, will you please finish folding in last-call comments, and submit the draft for 4871bis-10 ? I will do my final review on Wednesday, and send it to the ADs. Barry, as chair ___ NOTE WELL: This list operates according to