RE: end-to-end is important....Re: OPES is evil incarnate

2001-06-21 Thread Einar Stefferud
is getting closest to making sense. Cheers...\Stef At 17:06 +0200 21/06/01, TOMSON ERIC wrote: The best doesn't always win. The cheapest often does. Look at VHS over Betamax. Look at Token Ring over Ethernet. :o) -Original Message- From: Einar Stefferud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] And so

Re: I am *NOT* a believer in the democratic process.

2001-06-25 Thread Einar Stefferud
Keith -- I beg to differ. There are a number of other groups that have considered taking their work to the IETF, but decided instead to just use the IETF WG Processes, as described in the relevant RFCs. They have done this with good results, and I recommend often that this be done by others.

Re: I am *NOT* a believer in the democratic process.

2001-06-25 Thread Einar Stefferud
Well;-)... A really good discussion has occurred;-)... Gordon and Brian got it right in terms of my intentions. Let me clarify. Keith's fear of IESG being besieged with requests for IETF adoption of any work done outside the IETF without a WG Review is bogus as long as all work to be

Re: I am *NOT* a believer in the democratic process.

2001-06-25 Thread Einar Stefferud
: On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Einar Stefferud wrote: Keith -- I beg to differ. There are a number of other groups that have considered taking their work to the IETF, but decided instead to just use the IETF WG Processes, as described in the relevant RFCs. They have done this with good results

Re: I am *NOT* a believer in the democratic process.

2001-06-26 Thread Einar Stefferud
Hi Keith and all -- I have had my say, and will now exit the set, so you can return to your preferred programs;-)... I am an IETF outsider now by unilateral personal choice, but I still truly love the basic principles that drove the Internet while I was a directly engaged participant. And I am

Re: too many Out of Office AutoReply

2001-06-29 Thread Einar Stefferud
This solves the wrong problem. The problem is that the autoreply out of office thingy responds directly to the submitter of the listserved message, not to the listserver, so there is no filterable contact between the autoreply and the list server. Cheers...\Stef At 14:40 +0100 29/06/01,

Re: Any value in this list ?

2001-07-30 Thread Einar Stefferud
Aye, Verily! Here! Here! Let's Hear it For MicroSoft! At 12:09 -0400 30/07/01, Theodore Tso wrote: On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 08:17:48AM -0700, Mark Durham wrote: I'm doing the same. This is situation is absurd, and an embarrassment to the IETF. Those I've mentioned it to (some of whom are

RE: Resume command for ESMTP?

2001-08-06 Thread Einar Stefferud
Does anyone remember the trick of breaking a single huge message into smaller parts, to be reassembled by he final recipient? Its called fragmentation, as I recall. Marshall Rose implemented in his version of the RAND MH mail system. I think this is a better solution to the whole