Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers

2001-07-23 Thread Joe Touch
Randy Bush wrote: I.e., layering is, IMO at least, a model. Fine for describing things, but not necessarily a good blueprint for an implementation. compilation systems can be constructed which will procuce efficient inlined code for nicely modularized (layered) source. just not for

Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers

2001-07-23 Thread Henning Schulzrinne
Also seems to be a good electric fence - you can cross layers, but very carefully. Randy Bush wrote: I.e., layering is, IMO at least, a model. Fine for describing things, but not necessarily a good blueprint for an implementation. compilation systems can be constructed which will

Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers

2001-07-23 Thread Bob Braden
* From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jul 17 13:21:47 2001 * Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:58:35 -0500 (CDT) * From: Timothy J. Salo [EMAIL PROTECTED] * To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Subject: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers * X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Can anyone point me to an early

Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers

2001-07-20 Thread Jim Fleming
/Current/msg12223.html - Original Message - From: Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mahadevan Iyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: ietf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Interestingly enough, when we wrote RFC 1958 Architectural

Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers

2001-07-19 Thread Mahadevan Iyer
Jon Crowcroft wrote: In message v04220802b77bde136984@[10.83.97.216], Steve Deering typed: We used to use gateway instead of router (and a few still do), and i lik the fact that if you type getaway by mistake you get what people are trying to do when they are routed ... i also like

Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers

2001-07-19 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Interestingly enough, when we wrote RFC 1958 Architectural principles of the Internet, nobody suggested layer violation is evil as a principle. The arguments against layer violation tend to be pragmatic - certain types of layer violation (such as content based routing) could lead to complex

Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers

2001-07-18 Thread Marshall T. Rose
And if the terminology really is the most important contribution of OSI - I think that this is amusing, ironic, and instructive all at the same time. It's amusing and ironic because of the huge amount of effort that went to developing and promoting OSI. It's instructive because it