Re: A thought about patents

2000-04-02 Thread Toerless Eckert
> not the one patent examiner that seems to have missed the > existence of engineering libraries in his or her undergraduate > education. That's a bold presumption, and even though i don't know any of those guys whom you put the blame upon, i'd rather think that you're trying to come up with a mu

Re: A thought about patents

2000-04-03 Thread Toerless Eckert
> The problem is that a patent provides a presumption of validity. Thus, > even if the patent ignores prior non-patent art, the creator of that > prior (published) art has to spend time and money defending himself in > court. Ultimately, that favors the big corporation with a standing army > of la

Re: congestion control? - (was Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director)

2013-03-06 Thread Toerless Eckert
obal/news/pr/archives/month/2013/20130129-02.html > > That gets me worried about folks might try to "fix" the internet > mostly due to the fact that they really haven't understood what > is already there any why. > > -Martin -- --- Toerless Eckert, eck...@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy!

Re: congestion control? - (was Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director)

2013-03-06 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 07:52:56AM +, Eggert, Lars wrote: > On Mar 4, 2013, at 19:44, Michael Richardson wrote: > > The Transport Area has all of the groups that deal with transport > > protocols that need to do congestion control. Further, the (current) > > split of work means that all of t

Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director

2013-03-06 Thread Toerless Eckert
+1 +1 +1 On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 08:24:58PM +, Scott Brim wrote: > On 03/03/13 15:14, "Michael Richardson" allegedly > wrote: > >To be considered qualified the candidate needed to: > > a) have demonstrated subject matter expertise (congestion in this case) > > (I just want to nit on this: I

Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director

2013-03-06 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 03:55:39PM +, Eggert, Lars wrote: > only if the Y directorate reviews all IDs going through the IESG. Which in > itself is a scaling issue. It may work for some topics, but things will fall > through the cracks for various reasons. > > IMO congestion control is impor

Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director

2013-03-06 Thread Toerless Eckert
12, but the IESG will > look at this in 2013, and that's where a highly educated decision has to be > made.) > > Grüße, Carsten > -- --- Toerless Eckert, eck...@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy!

Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director

2013-03-07 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 09:47:38AM +0100, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On Mar 7, 2013, at 07:55, Toerless Eckert wrote: > > > Really ? You don't think a good AD should primarily look for factual > > evidence > > (lab, simulation, interop, ..) results produc

Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director

2013-03-07 Thread Toerless Eckert
> PS.: I just spent a day at CeBIT. One guy there reported to that he has seen > 35000 active devices on his WiFi snooper. > I'm not quite sure what that means, but he seemed to be implying "at a > specific point in time". > Go congestion control that. And then "prove" that your solution works.

Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director

2013-03-07 Thread Toerless Eckert
rom both the IESG and the > community) to fill the open TSV AD position this year? > > I would like to know the purpose of the meeting, because I believe it would > be appropriate for me to participate in a discussion of the former topic, but > not the latter. > > Margaret > > > > > -- --- Toerless Eckert, eck...@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy!

Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director

2013-03-07 Thread Toerless Eckert
:gs/nomcom/nomcom process/ On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 10:40:32AM -0800, David Kessens wrote: > > Sam, > > On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 01:32:59PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > > I don't think there is hair splitting going on here; I think the issues > > that are being raised are quite real and import

Re: The desires of the IETF community

2013-03-08 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Fri, Mar 08, 2013 at 07:01:00AM -0800, S Moonesamy wrote: > Hi Tom, > At 06:48 08-03-2013, t.p. wrote: > >How (apart from posting to this list)? > > Talk to the individuals who are part of NomCom 2012. It's easier to > discuss face to face. There is also an email address ( > nomcom-ch...@ie

Re: Nomcom is responsible for IESG qualifications

2013-03-08 Thread Toerless Eckert
> current text as /not/ assigning the authority to the Nomcom. It's fine > that other read it differently, but that's not the point. > > It should require really creative mis-reading to get an interpretation > that differs from everyone else. > > d/ > -- >

Re: Thoughts from a past experimental Nomcom selection for TSV Area Director

2013-03-13 Thread Toerless Eckert
Thanks, David. Good insight for the community. On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 04:41:43PM -0400, David Harrington wrote: > Hi, > > Many suggestions have been made about ways to resolve the issue of finding > suitable candidates for TSV Area Director, or adjusting the job to fit > available candidates. >

Re: Diversity of IETF Leadership

2013-03-20 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 03:59:34PM -0400, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 03:13:01PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > Part of what I meant when I signed the diversity letter was to state a > > belief > > that within a pool of qualified candidates, I believe diversity is > > important en

Re: IETF Diversity Question on Berlin Registration?

2013-04-11 Thread Toerless Eckert
gt; > > The IAOC would like to hear from the community on this proposal. It plans > > to > > make a decision on its 18 April call in order to make the changes in time > > for the > > Berlin registration and will consider all input received by 17 April. > >

Re: IETF Diversity Question on Berlin Registration?

2013-04-11 Thread Toerless Eckert
like the ones i asked for, then the effort will just reinforce bogus statistical claims. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 01:33:21PM -0300, Arturo Servin wrote: > > On 4/11/13 1:00 PM, Toerless Eckert wrote: > > if you do add questions about diversity, please also add > > the f

Re: IETF Diversity Question on Berlin Registration?

2013-04-11 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:58:07PM -0400, Thomas D. Nadeau wrote: > questions must be optional to answer too. Definitely. > Tom > > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Toerless Eckert wrote: > > > When adding diversity questions to the registration form, i think there

Re: IETF Diversity Question on Berlin Registration?

2013-04-11 Thread Toerless Eckert
58 PM, Thomas D. Nadeau wrote: > > questions must be optional to answer too. > > > > Tom > > > > > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Toerless Eckert wrote: > > > >> When adding diversity questions to the registration form, i think there > >> shoul

Re: IETF Diversity Question on Berlin Registration?

2013-04-11 Thread Toerless Eckert
; participants? That's a point worth studying, but wouldn't likely be > addressed by the proposed survey, unless some way were added to include > non-attending participants. > -- --- Toerless Eckert, eck...@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy!

Re: IETF Diversity Question on Berlin Registration?

2013-04-12 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 04:40:57PM -0800, Melinda Shore wrote: > My own feeling is that if we were to find that the > numbers supported the notion that there's bias > present in the system we probably couldn't do anything > about it without tearing the organization apart, so, > we live with bias, a

Re: IETF Diversity Question on Berlin Registration?

2013-04-13 Thread Toerless Eckert
A question because my institutional memory does reach as far back: How much was Europe represented over the decades in IETF leadership ? Right now for example IESG seems to have maybe at least 5 europeans (don't really know how to figure out location for all of them, those where just the easy one

Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regarding draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats

2013-07-03 Thread Toerless Eckert
rgument just > because it is labeled as an appeal. Sometimes legitimate differences of > opinion are just that, and consensus was rough. > > Jari > -- --- Toerless Eckert, eck...@cisco.com It's much easier to have an opinion if you do not understand the problem.

Re: IPv6 not operational (was Re: Consensus Call: draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request)

2011-12-08 Thread Toerless Eckert
Not sure why rfc1981 PMTUD was never fixed. I've repeatedly tried to suggest to just forget about PMTUD for IP multicast, and i have never come across a good use case to justify MTU > 1280 for IP multicast across the Internet. We did manage to get section 11.1 into rfc 3542 though. It's a little b