RE: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-13 Thread Richard Shockey
(at)shockey.us skype-linkedin-facebook: rshockey101 http//www.sipforum.org From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Michael StJohns Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:03 PM To: Glen Zorn; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards

Re: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-12 Thread Michael StJohns
Glen and others - I wanted to go back and comment on the assertion that Glen made that the IETF and IAB chairs do not 'represent' [him] or any one other than themselves. I believe he is correct with respect to himself, and incorrect with respect to the IETF. I agree the IETF is not a

Re: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-11 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Aug 11, 2012, at 16:41, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote: consensus-oriented process Sometimes, though, you have to act. While a consensus-oriented process*) document could certainly be used to improve (or deteriorate) the document by a couple more epsilons, I agree with Randy Bush:

Re: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm

2012-08-11 Thread Glen Zorn
On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 17:13 +0200, Carsten Bormann wrote: On Aug 11, 2012, at 16:41, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote: consensus-oriented process Sometimes, though, you have to act. While a consensus-oriented process*) document could certainly be used to improve (or deteriorate)