[Ifeffit] question about Eo and simultaneous fitting

2007-02-14 Thread tony vitova
Hi, first I would like to thank all experienced people answering in this forum!! I have learned really a lot from you. And now my question: Should I fit EXAFS spectra of a doped material and the same material, but oxidized and reduced (three spectra) simultaneously? In my opinion: yes, as I

Re: [Ifeffit] question about Eo and simultaneous fitting

2007-02-14 Thread Scott Calvin
Hi Tony, A quick answer before I try to fight my way through an ice storm to get to work. :) Fitting the three spectra simultaneously makes sense, but if oxidation state is expected to be different, then you really need different E0's. As far as doping, it depends on the details. In some

Re: [Ifeffit] question about Eo and simultaneous fitting

2007-02-14 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Tony, The approach that I like to take, is to vary the choice of E0 in the background subtraction step so that the chi(k) spectra are well aligned with each other and the theory. Then only one Ezero parameter is needed. Cheers, Shelly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Ifeffit] question about Eo and simultaneous fitting

2007-02-14 Thread Scott Calvin
Hi Shelly, Interesting--I've never tried that method with samples that I expect to differ in oxidation state. If it's differing in oxidation state, the local environment is probably different too...particularly, nearest-neighbor distances should be changed significantly. So how do you align

Re: [Ifeffit] question about Eo and simultaneous fitting

2007-02-14 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Scott, The change in frequency is a bigger affect at high k than the energy shift parameter. The energy shift parameter affects the data more strongly at low k. So I align the data to each other at low k, and then they become out of phase with each other at high k. A similar effect is seen

Re: [Ifeffit] question about Eo and simultaneous fitting

2007-02-14 Thread Anatoly Frenkel
It is true that in many cases oxidation/reduction affects the low k-range behavior in chi(k), but if the second shell (metal-metal) frequency is not affected, the data can still be aligned by focusing at the high k-portion of the data, so what Shelly suggested, may be, in principle, done. Anatoly

Re: [Ifeffit] question about Eo and simultaneous fitting

2007-02-14 Thread Matt Newville
Tony -- Should I fit EXAFS spectra of a doped material and the same material, but oxidized and reduced (three spectra) simultaneously? In my opinion: yes, as I am looking for small differences. Is varying one Eo for the three samples the right approach? I am also wondering, should I vary one

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2007-02-14 Thread Ruwan Wijesundera
Dear Bruce We have used Athena and Artemis software to analyses the EXAFS. When we do the analysis, we used different S2o for each path for fitting of Cu2O data. I succeeded to obtain good fitting by this way. Documents related to percent EXAFS analysis have been mentioned S2o is one value

Re: [Ifeffit] question about Eo and simultaneous fitting

2007-02-14 Thread tony vitova
Hi again to everybody, Thank you for the answers. They are all helpful. Just to specify a little more: all samples are measured at the K edge of the doped metal oxide. I expect relation between the coordination environments of the different samples as the reduced and oxidized samples are