Re: [Ifeffit] Origin of terminology self-absorption

2010-11-16 Thread Matthew Marcus
It's definitely a misnomer. I use overabsorption and encourage others to do so. I suppose to track it down would require going back over the seminal papers on the subject. mam On 11/16/2010 10:19 AM, Scott Calvin wrote: Hi all, As some of you know, I'm currently working on a

Re: [Ifeffit] Origin of terminology self-absorption

2010-11-16 Thread Scott Calvin
I tried a few searches, but rapidly get lost in other uses of the term. My guess is we borrowed it from some other spectroscopy, much the way we borrowed Debye-Waller factor from XRD, and then proceeded to change its meaning. But it would be nice to be able to track that down. --Scott

Re: [Ifeffit] Origin of terminology self-absorption

2010-11-16 Thread Matt Newville
It's a term taken from x-ray fluorescence spectroscopy, or probably really any fluorescence spectroscopy, where it has very sensible meaning: the attenuation of the fluorescence signal by the sample itself. I would even say it is used mostly correctly in XAFS, or at least with a similar intent as

Re: [Ifeffit] Origin of terminology self-absorption

2010-11-16 Thread Dr. Dariusz A. Zając
Hi all, I think this comes from the misunderstanding of the effect and the try to explain it as the additional absorption of outgoing light. Am I right? kicaj W dniu 10-11-16 19:19, Scott Calvin pisze: Hi all, As some of you know, I'm currently working on a textbook on XAFS analysis.

[Ifeffit] UO2 thin films on STO

2010-11-16 Thread mohamed sobhy
Dear All I would like to grow UO2 thin films on STO (SrTiO3) substrate but I found that Sr K-edge 16105 and U L3-edge is 17166. Do you think there will be any interference? Best, Mohamed ___ Ifeffit mailing list

Re: [Ifeffit] UO2 thin films on STO

2010-11-16 Thread María Elena Montero Cabrera
Dear Mohamed, I think you will have some kind of over or self -absorption from the substrate, specially in geometries other than grazing incidence. I have performed that kind of experiments in fluorescence and in transmission. The result was that the absorption coefficient signal I was interested

Re: [Ifeffit] UO2 thin films on STO

2010-11-16 Thread Matthew Marcus
I'm assuming that the desire is to measure the EXAFS of the UO2, not the SrTiO3 substratem right? The ratio of the signal from the SrTiO3 to the UO2 would depend on the thickness of the UO2 and the incidence and takeoff angle (assuming you do fluorescence). There shouldn't be much interference