Re: [Ifeffit] Problem with importing projects from ATHENA into ARTEMIS

2014-04-07 Thread Matt Newville
Hi Alexander,

I think you may not alone in having this issue.   You should be using
normalized chi(k) in Artemis, but I don't think Artemis would be
reading chi(k) from the project file incorrectly Perhaps there is
something strange about how you're doing the normalization?   Or
perhaps it is just a question of what k-weighting is being used for
the plot. Unfortunately, the PNGs I see have been cropped and don't
show the labels of the axes.

I'm sending this to the Ifeffit mailing list, where you'll probably
get a more complete answer.

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Britz, Alexander
alexander.br...@xfel.eu wrote:
 Dear Mr. Newville,

 I came across a problem when I import an ATHENA project after normalization 
 into ARTEMIS. Maybe you could tell me who to contact about this problem. Let 
 me try to explain it in few words:

 I normalize my EXAFS data in ATHENA and safe it a s a .prj file. When I open 
 the .prj file in ARTEMIS I noticed, that the amplitude of some oscillations 
 have changed. When I save the chi(k) as .txt, this problem does not occur. 
 When I open the chi(k) text file in ARTEMIS, the normalization and the 
 amplitude of the oscillations are exactly the same as in ATHEN.

 I have attached a .png file for the EXAFS in k-space. It is the same .prj 
 file, one time opened in ARTEMIS, one time in ATHENA. To be more specific, 
 the amplitude of the oscillation at k=3 is -1.4 and -1.6, respectively.

 Thank you very much for your help in advance!

 Best regards from Hamburg,
 Alexander

 
 Alexander Britz
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Re: [Ifeffit] Problem with importing projects from ATHENA into ARTEMIS

2014-04-07 Thread Bruce Ravel


There are a number of known problems with the current version of 
Artemis.  It's pretty much impossible for me to troubleshoot without 
examples being posted to the mailing list.


B

On 04/07/2014 11:17 AM, Matt Newville wrote:

Hi Alexander,

I think you may not alone in having this issue.   You should be using
normalized chi(k) in Artemis, but I don't think Artemis would be
reading chi(k) from the project file incorrectly Perhaps there is
something strange about how you're doing the normalization?   Or
perhaps it is just a question of what k-weighting is being used for
the plot. Unfortunately, the PNGs I see have been cropped and don't
show the labels of the axes.

I'm sending this to the Ifeffit mailing list, where you'll probably
get a more complete answer.

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Britz, Alexander
alexander.br...@xfel.eu wrote:

Dear Mr. Newville,

I came across a problem when I import an ATHENA project after normalization 
into ARTEMIS. Maybe you could tell me who to contact about this problem. Let me 
try to explain it in few words:

I normalize my EXAFS data in ATHENA and safe it a s a .prj file. When I open 
the .prj file in ARTEMIS I noticed, that the amplitude of some oscillations 
have changed. When I save the chi(k) as .txt, this problem does not occur. When 
I open the chi(k) text file in ARTEMIS, the normalization and the amplitude of 
the oscillations are exactly the same as in ATHEN.

I have attached a .png file for the EXAFS in k-space. It is the same .prj file, 
one time opened in ARTEMIS, one time in ATHENA. To be more specific, the 
amplitude of the oscillation at k=3 is -1.4 and -1.6, respectively.

Thank you very much for your help in advance!

Best regards from Hamburg,
Alexander


Alexander Britz
European XFEL GmbH
alexander.br...@xfel.eu
Tel. +49 (0)40 8998-6986
Fax +49 (0)40 8998-1905
www.xfel.eu/de

Postadresse: Notkestraße 85, 22607 Hamburg
Sitz: Albert-Einstein-Ring 19, 22761 Hamburg

Geschäftsführer: Prof. Dr. Massimo Altarelli, Dr. Claudia Burger
Registriert als European X-Ray Free-Electron Laser Facility GmbH
beim Amtsgericht Hamburg, HRB 65









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Re: [Ifeffit] D-Atoms program, common positions and occupancies

2014-04-07 Thread Robert Gordon

Hi Moneed,

Bruce is a busy fellow. I doubt he has time to double-check every user's 
input file.


Let's go through some steps that might help you.

What reference are you using for CdSe crystal structure?
What are (is) the Se positions (position) supposed to be in that structure
with the P63mc symmetry?... the Cd positions (position)?
What are they in your input file?

Only one unique atom should be specified for a given symmetry position 
that has

more than one symmetry-related atom in the unit cell.

More generally, how much do you understand about crystal structures and
symmetry? If the answer is not much, taking a course on such would be 
beneficial,
or even reading about it in some standard inorganic or solid state 
chemistry texts.


regards,
Robert




On 4/5/2014 4:54 AM, Moneeb Shatnawi wrote:

Dear Bruce Ravel,
Hello,
 I am Moneeb Shatnawi from the University of Jordan. I have a question 
and I appreciate your help in advance.
 I have installed the Demeter program (version 0.9.18) and I tried to 
use your (D)Atoms program using the attached input files.


When I try to run atoms, I get a warning message stating that two 
sites generate one or more common positions and their occupancies sum 
to more than 1. (attached also the warning message that I got).

If I ignore this warning message and try to run FEFF, the program crashes.
When I change the space group to P 1 (as indicated by the message) , 
the program runs well.
My question is, could you please figure out the problem with these 
input files, so that I can run them with the correct space group?

Thank you so much in advance,
 Moneeb


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