Re: [Ifeffit] Converting PDF files to CIF files for usage in Artemis

2016-08-08 Thread Carlo Segre
Hi Ed: You do not need to start with a CIF file at all. All you need is the space group, the lattice constants and the atomic positions. You can then fillin the blanks for the Atoms program yourself. Carlo On Mon, 8 Aug 2016, Ed Han wrote: Hello All, I apologize in advance if this is

Re: [Ifeffit] Converting PDF files to CIF files for usage in Artemis

2016-08-08 Thread Matthew Marcus
Use ATOMS, which lets you define the structure by filling in a form, then save as an ATOMS .inp file. You don't need the .cif. I forget whether ATOMS can save as .cif. The crystallographic symmetry rules will duplicate the O atom for you. The CIF only shows symmetry-inequivqlent atoms.

[Ifeffit] Converting PDF files to CIF files for usage in Artemis

2016-08-08 Thread Ed Han
Hello All, I apologize in advance if this is not the correct method to reply to the thread. Thank you for your replies and suggestions. I will look further into determining the atomic structure of the Hf-Al intermetallics through their papers. Once I obtain this information, how do I go about

Re: [Ifeffit] Ti data problem

2016-08-08 Thread Carlo Segre
Hi Jia: For the first one of the spectra, I chose the shoulder in the derivative at 4974 instead of the large peak. I consider the lower energy peak to be a pre-edge feature due to the 3d quadrupole transitions and I generally don't choose that. If the analysis later tells me that I am

Re: [Ifeffit] Converting PDF files to CIF files for usage in Artemis

2016-08-08 Thread Matthew Marcus
That's a theoretical paper, so I don't know how reliable those numbers are. It will take Han some care with crystallography to translate the data into something usable by Atoms, i.e. a complete site list. I suggest starting with structures with the same code (e.g. D022) and filling in new

Re: [Ifeffit] Ti data problem

2016-08-08 Thread Carlo Segre
Your data is very noisy through the edge. Longer acquisition times would help reduce the noise. carlo On Mon, 8 Aug 2016, Siliang Chang wrote: Hi Carlo, Thank you for the response. I will try what you mentioned here. The data is taken at APS beamline 5BMD. May I ask what is the effect of

Re: [Ifeffit] Converting PDF files to CIF files for usage in Artemis

2016-08-08 Thread Matthew Marcus
I'm afraid a PDF file of that sort is useless for EXAFS work because it doesn't tell you where the atoms are. It only tells you the size of the unit cell, unless you use it to solve the crystal structure yourself, which I don't recommend :-) You need to search the literature for structures

Re: [Ifeffit] Ti data problem

2016-08-08 Thread Qingying Jia
Hi Carlo, In many transition metal oxide cases like this, what would be the more proper E0, the position of the apex of the first derivative peak or the second one that is usually higher than the first peak, or it really depends? I have seen people using either. In this particular case, it

Re: [Ifeffit] Ti data problem

2016-08-08 Thread Siliang Chang
Hi Carlo, Thank you for the response. I will try what you mentioned here. The data is taken at APS beamline 5BMD. May I ask what is the effect of longer counting times? Siliang -Original Message- From: Carlo Segre [mailto:se...@iit.edu] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 4:05 PM To: Siliang

Re: [Ifeffit] Converting PDF files to CIF files for usage in Artemis

2016-08-08 Thread Bruce Ravel
Have you read the Colinet & Pasturel paper? Skimming through it, it seems like section III.b along with Fig 1 gives enough information to fill in the Atoms window (http://bruceravel.github.io/demeter/documents/Artemis/feff/index.html) by hand. B On 08/08/2016 05:02 PM, Ed Han wrote:

[Ifeffit] Converting PDF files to CIF files for usage in Artemis

2016-08-08 Thread Ed Han
Dear All, In the upcoming fall, my research group plans on performing XAS studies observing the Hf L3-edge for various Hf-Al intermetallic samples. In preparation for the experiments, I am looking for CIF files of the various Hf-Al intermetallic systems, including HfAl3, HfAl2, Hf4Al3, etc.

Re: [Ifeffit] Ti data problem

2016-08-08 Thread Carlo Segre
Hi Siliang: The first thing is that you have misidentified the edge position. Itis way too high in all the data sets. Put it at the inflection point of the main rise in the absorption curve and you will find that the problem is much reduced. The second thing is that you have a very bad

[Ifeffit] Ti data problem

2016-08-08 Thread Siliang Chang
Dear all, I am new to XAFS data analysis. I’m currently working on the XAFS data of atomic layer deposited mixed oxide thin film: SnTiOx. I have both Sn and Ti K edge data, and was able to fit Sn edge using a model of (Sn,Ti)O2 solid solution. However, Ti data really confuses me (please see

Re: [Ifeffit] Amorphous

2016-08-08 Thread Bruce Ravel
On 08/08/2016 11:19 AM, Carlos Triana Estupinan wrote: I want to know if it is possible to obtain a 3D structure (.cif file) of an amorphous material from the EXAFS fitting carried out from artemis. I mean, there is a way to extract a .cif file with the structural data obtained from the refined

[Ifeffit] Amorphous

2016-08-08 Thread Carlos Triana Estupinan
Dear Bruce I want to know if it is possible to obtain a 3D structure (.cif file) of an amorphous material from the EXAFS fitting carried out from artemis. I mean, there is a way to extract a .cif file with the structural data obtained from the refined spectra. Also, in amorphous materials there