Re: [Ifeffit] Dynamic XAFS Simulations?

2019-01-23 Thread Gentle, Cecilia M
Dear Hunter,

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Cecilia Gentle 
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Today's Topics:

   1. Dynamic XAFS Simulations? (Hunter Allison)
   2. Re: Dynamic XAFS Simulations? (Robert Gordon)


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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:26:21 -0800
From: Hunter Allison 
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Hi,

I'm a graduate student at the University of California, Irvine.
Firstly, thank you for all the copious resources. It is a treasure trove of 
information and a beacon of light for someone just starting out.

   Let's begin with some brief background. In my research group, we intend 
to perform pump-probe spectroscopy with attosecond x-ray probes. The Professor 
says that we can use XAFS to study how the electrons move on these very short 
timescales. While the system is being setup and other experiments are being 
conducted, my Professor wants me to figure out how to do simulations of XAFS. 
This is a bit of a daunting order, since I've never simulated anything before 
and only have basic programming knowledge. The only direction I have is, "Try 
Google.".

   So, today, I've been "trying Google" and found my way to here.
Since, I don't really know what I'm doing, I thought I try asking and finding 
out if anyone else does this sort of thing:
How/where does one do simulations of dynamic XAFS? Where would I get started?
(Please forgive me if this question has been answered somewhere else or if it 
seems profoundly dumb or too broad. I'm really just looking for some more 
direction. Perhaps, it could be that nobody does this and, in that case, I need 
to figure out how to model this myself. Wow! That thought seems daunting.)

   For example, let's say I want to find out how the x-ray adsorption of a 
carbon foil like Graphene would change on attosecond time scales as it's heated 
by a femtosecond laser and electrons move. Is there a program or code out there 
that people use to model this sort of thing?
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 14:53:04 -0800
From: Robert Gordon 
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Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] Dynamic XAFS Simulations?
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Hi,

Welcome to XAFS and all the excitement, thrills and adventure that implies!

First, since you are new to the subject, I would strongly recommend you take a 
course on XAFS. Many synchrotron facilities offer such - e.g. The APS/IIT 
Summer school was held last July; the SSRL course was last August, and NSLS2 
had theirs in November. Any schools being held this year will likely also be 
announced on this iFeffit mailing list.

Some other resources for learning the basics can be found here:
https://www.ixasportal.net/ixas/index.php?option=com_content=article=46=136
Matt's introduction is a good place to start.

For "dynamic XAFS" searches, you should consider "pump probe xafs" or 
"time-resolved xafs"
as search terms. Searching for pump probe xafs for me easily yielded this 
article
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-43866-5_9

As for simulation of XAFS, one program is FEFF, developed by the Rehr Group at 
the University of Washington http://feff.phys.washington.edu/
FEFF9 (8, 7) requires a license and modest fee for academic use, and is widely 
used for simulating both the near edge and extended fine structure. Bruce 
Ravel's Demeter suite of programs for XAFS processing and analysis includes an 
earlier version (FEFF6). Demeter is fre

Re: [Ifeffit] Dynamic XAFS Simulations?

2019-01-23 Thread Robert Gordon

Hi,

Welcome to XAFS and all the excitement, thrills and adventure that implies!

First, since you are new to the subject, I would strongly recommend you 
take a course
on XAFS. Many synchrotron facilities offer such - e.g. The APS/IIT 
Summer school was held
last July; the SSRL course was last August, and NSLS2 had theirs in 
November. Any schools
being held this year will likely also be announced on this iFeffit 
mailing list.


Some other resources for learning the basics can be found here:
https://www.ixasportal.net/ixas/index.php?option=com_content=article=46=136
Matt's introduction is a good place to start.

For "dynamic XAFS" searches, you should consider "pump probe xafs" or 
"time-resolved xafs"
as search terms. Searching for pump probe xafs for me easily yielded 
this article

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-43866-5_9

As for simulation of XAFS, one program is FEFF, developed by the Rehr 
Group at the University of Washington

http://feff.phys.washington.edu/
FEFF9 (8, 7) requires a license and modest fee for academic use, and is 
widely used for simulating both the
near edge and extended fine structure. Bruce Ravel's Demeter suite of 
programs for XAFS processing and analysis
includes an earlier version (FEFF6). Demeter is free - mostly a labour 
of love by Bruce, and he likes beer and maple syrup if you happen to run 
into him at a conference.


FDMNES (Yves Joly group, Institut Neel) is another program for 
simulating the near-edge. I find it works
quite well. It allows for tweaking of the starting electronic 
configuration as well (with cautionary notes) that
might be useful for simulating excited systems (I haven't checked 
literature to see if anyone has done so).


An additional program of note for fitting and simulation is GNXAS 
(DiCicco group, U. Camerino) but I haven't

used it myself.

I am probably overlooking others, but these should get you going. I 
strongly recommend you take a course

on the basics before plunging into any of these.

cheers,
Robert

On 2019-01-23 1:26 p.m., Hunter Allison wrote:

Hi,

      I'm a graduate student at the University of California, Irvine. 
Firstly, thank you for all the copious resources. It is a treasure 
trove of information and a beacon of light for someone just starting out.


     Let's begin with some brief background. In my research group, we 
intend to perform pump-probe spectroscopy with attosecond x-ray 
probes. The Professor says that we can use XAFS to study how the 
electrons move on these very short timescales. While the system is 
being setup and other experiments are being conducted, my Professor 
wants me to figure out how to do simulations of XAFS. This is a bit of 
a daunting order, since I've never simulated anything before and only 
have basic programming knowledge. The only direction I have is, "Try 
Google.".


     So, today, I've been "trying Google" and found my way to here. 
Since, I don't really know what I'm doing, I thought I try asking and 
finding out if anyone else does this sort of thing:
How/where does one do simulations of dynamic XAFS? Where would I get 
started?
(Please forgive me if this question has been answered somewhere else 
or if it seems profoundly dumb or too broad. I'm really just looking 
for some more direction. Perhaps, it could be that nobody does this 
and, in that case, I need to figure out how to model this myself. Wow! 
That thought seems daunting.)


     For example, let's say I want to find out how the x-ray 
adsorption of a carbon foil like Graphene would change on attosecond 
time scales as it's heated by a femtosecond laser and electrons move. 
Is there a program or code out there that people use to model this 
sort of thing?


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[Ifeffit] Dynamic XAFS Simulations?

2019-01-23 Thread Hunter Allison
Hi,

I'm a graduate student at the University of California, Irvine.
Firstly, thank you for all the copious resources. It is a treasure trove of
information and a beacon of light for someone just starting out.

   Let's begin with some brief background. In my research group, we
intend to perform pump-probe spectroscopy with attosecond x-ray probes. The
Professor says that we can use XAFS to study how the electrons move on
these very short timescales. While the system is being setup and other
experiments are being conducted, my Professor wants me to figure out how to
do simulations of XAFS. This is a bit of a daunting order, since I've never
simulated anything before and only have basic programming knowledge. The
only direction I have is, "Try Google.".

   So, today, I've been "trying Google" and found my way to here.
Since, I don't really know what I'm doing, I thought I try asking and
finding out if anyone else does this sort of thing:
How/where does one do simulations of dynamic XAFS? Where would I get
started?
(Please forgive me if this question has been answered somewhere else or if
it seems profoundly dumb or too broad. I'm really just looking for some
more direction. Perhaps, it could be that nobody does this and, in that
case, I need to figure out how to model this myself. Wow! That thought
seems daunting.)

   For example, let's say I want to find out how the x-ray adsorption
of a carbon foil like Graphene would change on attosecond time scales as
it's heated by a femtosecond laser and electrons move. Is there a program
or code out there that people use to model this sort of thing?
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