Re: [Ifeffit] XANES temperature estimation (Robert Gordon)

2022-11-21 Thread Gabriele Garofalo

Hi Gordon,

I have just one spectrum per sample, all taken at different T (unknown, 
due to technical problems) and P (known). I'd like to find T and using 
an EoS is not a viable option.
I was thinking that maybe, assuming that the Debye-Waller term is 
explained only by thermal disorder, the Debye temperature is P 
independent, and there are no structural or electronic transformations, 
I could retrieve T by fitting the Debye-Waller term and using the 
reference spectra. Is this possible?


Best regards
Gabriele



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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 16:16:50 +0100
From: Gabriele GAROFALO 
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Hi everyone,

I'd like to estimate the temperature of some samples from some XANES
spectra, is there a way to do that? I couldn't find an answer in the
mailing list archive.

Thanks!



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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:23:10 -0500
From: Anatoly Frenkel 
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Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] XANES temperature estimation
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Only evaporation temperature, when XANES spectrum disappears?:)

Anatoly

On Nov 21, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Gabriele GAROFALO 
 wrote:


?Hi everyone,

I'd like to estimate the temperature of some samples from some XANES 
spectra, is there a way to do that? I couldn't find an answer in the 
mailing list archive.


Thanks!

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 09:13:19 -0800
From: Robert Gordon 
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Hi Gabriele,

To qualify Anatoly's cheerful, pre-morning coffee response, if your 
samples

are part of a sequence of measurements
of a material whose XANES has been measured at different temperatures, 
and

said XANES does have some changes
owing to changes in physical or electronic behavior with temperature 
(i.e.

a phase transition), then you could estimate
where your samples fit within that determined behavior.

Are you familiar with how temperature dependence manifests in a typical
XAFS measurement?
...through the Debye-Waller term..the effects of which become less
pronounced at lower k...

Temperature is more typically a controlled parameter during 
measurements.


So no, not really...unless there is a known behavior for comparison.

-R.

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[Ifeffit] XANES temperature estimation

2022-11-21 Thread Gabriele GAROFALO

Hi everyone,

I'd like to estimate the temperature of some samples from some XANES 
spectra, is there a way to do that? I couldn't find an answer in the 
mailing list archive.


Thanks!

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