Re: [Ifeffit] problems installing athena et al under ubuntu 16.04 LTS

2016-11-25 Thread Matt Newville
, and is not completely reversible. I see a factor of 1000 as a multiplicative factor in the Energy Text Control window when "keV" is selected, but this appears to not be editable. I also see that this only happens when using the Larch backend and not the Ifeffit backend. And, I ca

Re: [Ifeffit] Unwanted rescaling of energy axis when importing ascii file into Athena (Demeter 0.9.26)

2019-01-09 Thread Ravel, Bruce
similar to the one reported in March 2018 under the > topic "Athena (Demeter 0.9.26) does not import all datapoints from ascci > file". However, the issue I am seeing always results in 1.2eV steps in > the imported data. If my original file hast 0.3eV steps, the number of > po

Re: [Ifeffit] Energy Resolution

2018-05-10 Thread Carlo Segre
of measurement you are making (transmission, fluorescence). All of these factors can masquerade a amplitude reduction factor. What I do in practice is to measure a standard which has the same local environment and fit the EXAFS with the known structure to extract an S02 which I then use

Re: [Ifeffit] Energy Resolution

2018-05-10 Thread Lorenzo Stievano
of measurement you are making (transmission, fluorescence).  All of these factors can masquerade a amplitude reduction factor. What I do in practice is to measure a standard which has the same local environment and fit the EXAFS with the known structure to extract

Re: [Ifeffit] Large Amplitude Values

2010-07-31 Thread Gavin Garside
ability to normalize properly, you're unlikely to account for a factor of 2 by normalization if the data is relatively decent. And self-absorption tends to suppress S02, not exaggerate it. Why did you switch to fluorescence on just the handful of data sets? That might provide us a clue. --Scott

[Ifeffit] Fwd: problems by using Artemis and Demeter

2014-07-28 Thread Bruce Ravel
is only showing the fit results in the top of the results window: Later where a summary is usually shown it is left blank: R-factor for this data set = 0.46013 pathdegen amp sigma^2e0reff delta_RR

Re: [Ifeffit] Co fitting questions

2016-09-02 Thread Neil M Schweitzer
work, I got it to the point that the fit looks pretty (R-factor<0.02), but I have several reservations about it: 1) Generally, the ss values are all higher than I would like. 0.007 even seems high to me for a metal-O bond. Am I right about this? Would this indicate that this may have b

Re: [Ifeffit] Demeter 0.9.26 launch faillure

2017-12-06 Thread Robert Gordon
I was installing it only to get the possibility to actually use the user-supplied value of epsilon_k for fitting multiple dataset. If it is difficult to make the version 0.9.26 available soon, maybe in 0.9.25 there is a possibility to set R-factor as a figure of merit for fitting rather than chi^2? That

Re: [Ifeffit] Issue with the Athena software - Athena Warning: redundant argument in sprintf

2019-10-15 Thread Ravel, Bruce
error bar. Also, the R factor for fit "B,D,E" is barely different from those above, which further suggests that those two are not actually in your sample. What happens if you exclude those two from the combinatorial fit? Do you see the same error message? What happens if y

Re: [Ifeffit] Exafs spectra Fitting of WO3 nanoparticles (Abdallah Nassereddine)

2022-08-04 Thread Mosselmans, Fred (DLSLtd,RAL,SCI)
distances from such an analysis is to assert that the difference between the path is a fixed value and thus refine the two paths with the same delta R (and probably the same debye wller factor) this in my experience works in some cases Best regards Fred Mosselmans -Original Message- From

Re: [Ifeffit] Co fitting questions

2016-09-02 Thread Carlo Segre
Hi Neil: I took your data and fit it with the Co(OH)2 structure but only the first two paths: Co-O and Co-Co. I used a k-range of 2-10 and dk=3 and the r-range of 1-3.5 with dr=0.2. The fit results are as follows R-factor= 0.024528565 Guess parameters

Re: [Ifeffit] Question about PCA

2019-04-25 Thread Matt Newville
: > >> Hi Matt, thank you for your answer!. The references I have about >> Malinowski´s work and some applications are: >> >> Malinowski, E.R., *Theory of error in factor analysis.* Analytical >> Chemistry, 1977. *49*(4): p. 606-612. >> >> Malinowski, E

Re: [Ifeffit] Data being overwritten in Artemis history window

2015-03-11 Thread Godfrey, Ian
for the most recent fit but, for the previous fit it will have been overwritten by the newer fit. Some of the other info, such as R-factor by k-weight seems to get overwritten too. I just pushed a fix for this to github and posted new windows installer candidates at http://bruceravel.github.io

Re: [Ifeffit] Ifeffit Digest, Vol 104, Issue 9

2011-10-09 Thread Soham Mukherjee
that as the first two S subshells are so close to each other, my data can't identify them (delr and ss) independently. So I defined their delr and ss to be same and the results match pretty well with the cubic phase. The r-factor and reduced-chi square with the two models are very similar.Thanks a lot ! On Sun

[Ifeffit] Regarding a fit for Fe(OTf)2

2014-12-02 Thread pushkar shejwalkar
in an anticipation Best Pushkar Independent points : 16.125 Number of variables : 4 Chi-square : 7324.9401796 Reduced chi-square : 604.118 R-factor: 0.0195782 Measurement uncertainty (k) : 0.0001264 Measurement uncertainty (R) : 0.0004142

Re: [Ifeffit] Truncating signal

2018-05-10 Thread Julian Ehwald
Hi Matt, Thank you for your answer and for taking time to explain me basic things again and again. I have completely different question as well, and hopefully the last one for a while: I just started using Artemis, and have a question regarding the amplitude reduction factor: I use

Re: [Ifeffit] Requesting guidance in understanding results from Athena

2020-09-13 Thread Deepak Varanasi
Good afternoon I understand. In that case, would it be possible for you to perhaps guess the greatest factor causing this problem? My apologies if I may be asking for too much. Yours sincerely Deepak Varanasi On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 16:39 Deepak Varanasi wrote: > Good afternoon > > T

Re: [Ifeffit] Question about PCA

2019-04-25 Thread Joselaine Cáceres gonzalez
f the Vogt–Mizaikoff F-test to determine the number of principal factors responsible for a data matrix and comparison with other popular methods. Journal of Chemometrics, 2004. 18(9): p. 387-392) is stated that s is equal to r or c, wichever is smaller, in this case s=c, the number of spectra as you said. Y

Re: [Ifeffit] Asymmetric error bars in IFeffit

2010-10-25 Thread Matt Newville
Hi Scott, That's a pretty amazing use case. But I'm not sure I understand the issue exactly right. I would have thought the volume (r**3) was the important physical parameter, and that a 1000nm particle would dominate the spectra over 3nm particles. Or is it that you are trying

Re: [Ifeffit] Phase correction not working in Athena

2016-08-31 Thread Bruce Ravel
oint is so important that I want to yell it at you. THE FOURIER TRANSFORM OF CHI(K) IS NOT A RADIAL DISTRIBUTION FUNCTION. * chi(k) includes multiple scattering * chi(k) includes a complex scattering factor * For heavy elements, the magnitude of the complex scattering factor has a lot of

Re: [Ifeffit] Analyzing EXAFS data on Artemis

2021-05-27 Thread Matt Newville
t higher k than normal (perhaps 4 or 5 Ang^-1) or increasing the k-weight used in the Fourier transform (perhaps to 3 or 4) would de-emphasize the Se-Li scattering to a level that it was safe(r) to ignore. FWIW, I would imagine that trying to fit coordination number or sigma^2 for Se-Li at per

Re: [Ifeffit] Yttrium in alumina GBs

2006-12-20 Thread Scott Calvin
, without any restraint. While I restrain the DW to 0.005, my CN jumps from 4.8 to 5.2. When I make a cluster based on Yttria structure, I get DW factor of 0.008 +- 0.002, unrestrained. While I restrain the DW to 0.01, it again jumps from 4.8 to 5.2. First query...if you can pin down on the CN change

Re: [Ifeffit] Hexagonal WO3 (Carlo Segre)

2008-11-24 Thread Carlo Segre
occupation factors to be equal to 12 provided that you have a reasonable understanding of what the amplitude reduction factor might be. You can also start by constraining the delta R and sigma-squareds for the two paths until you are sure that the fit makes sense and is stable. If you have data

Re: [Ifeffit] small-screen version of Athena document

2009-01-26 Thread Richard Mayes
, there will be a number of really nice options out there. For example, ringtones for a really bad fit should be made very unpleasant, and even more so, when Delta E0 is out of bounds, or r-factor is greater than 0.02.. Anatoly -Original Message- From: ifeffit-boun...@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov

Re: [Ifeffit] Athena crash during LCA

2011-01-07 Thread Scott Calvin
, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Jeff Terry wrote: Did not try really hard to work with it. Fitting Data as norm(E) from -20.000 to 30.000 Fit included 98 data points and 3 variables R-factor = 0.000263 chi-square = 0.04347 reduced chi-square = 0.0004482 groupweight

Re: [Ifeffit] Gold Nanoparticle first shell fitting

2011-10-11 Thread Anatoly I Frenkel
Something is horribly wrong with the data here. I overplotted your reference Au foil against mine, and yours has distorted XANES and too high EXAFS intensity compared to my data. Your amplitude factor is 1.54 which also confirms that something was wrong in the experiment. Perhaps

Re: [Ifeffit] Use of the 3rd and 4th Parameter

2014-06-16 Thread Matt Newville
with the 4th parameter no fit at all takes place. The errors in the GDS-window are exactly 0.0 with no fit taking place (enot = 0, amp = 0 (guess amp = 1) delr = 0 and ss = 0.003) and the R-factor of the fit is way over the top (10^20). I've chosen a value of 0.5 for the 3rd and the 4th

[Ifeffit] Measurment of size of nanoparticles using one measurement of sample

2015-12-16 Thread pushkar shejwalkar
only two variables in fitting parameteres are needed 1) Radius 2) amplitude reduction factor (SO2) I think I have understood the basic concept as to why the amplitude is reduced and somehow we need to increase the number N of number of paths/number of atoms in the cluster so that the amplittude

Re: [Ifeffit] Hephaestus: Absorption Data Source

2017-11-13 Thread Daniel Przyrembel
M, N, O, and P core levels with binding energies less > than 1500 eV in approximately 25 elements. The results show that the > framework provided by previously accepted theoretical estimates of > lifetime broadening is sometimes misleading. Lifetimes derived from > theory

Re: [Ifeffit] Fitting Problems in Artemis version 0.9.26

2018-06-29 Thread Scott Calvin
ersion "Artemis 0.9.26" I have two > problems. (1) The fitting Range was reported to be a error that the Rmin > should be larger than the Rkbg value. It makes that the fitting range cannot > be smaller than 0.9 (the Rkbg value is 0.9). (2) When Fitting the > Debye–Waller fa

Re: [Ifeffit] Analyzing EXAFS data on Artemis

2021-05-28 Thread Alexandros Deltsidis
the Fourier transform (perhaps to 3 or 4) would de-emphasize the > Se-Li scattering to a level that it was safe(r) to ignore. > > FWIW, I would imagine that trying to fit coordination number or sigma^2 > for > Se-Li at percent-level concentrations would not work very well. If yo

Re: [Ifeffit] questions concerning paper

2008-05-22 Thread Matt Newville
^2 chi(k) vs. k is plotted. I don't understand this context because there is no chi in the approximation for the Debye-Waller factor. Where comes the chi here? chi(k) is proportional to e^(-2 sigma^2 k^2), where sigma^2 is the mean-square-displacement in the bond length R to the neighboring atom

Re: [Ifeffit] Question about transform windows and statistical parameters

2011-05-12 Thread Brandon Reese
, and for the K-B window i tried different dk's from 1-5. The kmin and kmax were held constant at 2.5-11. I did notice the large increase in ringing with the low dk values and the K-B window. The fit quality, by R-factor, was substantially worse with the K-B window regardless of the dk value. I will probably

Re: [Ifeffit] Question about transform windows and statistical parameters

2011-05-13 Thread Matt Newville
a change in epsilon. In playing around with different windows and dk values my fit variables generally stayed within the error bars, but the size of the error bars could change more than a factor 2.  Does this mean that it would make sense to find a window/dk that seems to work for a given group

Re: [Ifeffit] Question about transform windows and statistical parameters

2011-05-13 Thread Matt Newville
 be dominated by the rapid decay in |chi(k)|, rather than a change in epsilon. I'm confused. We Fourier transform k-weighted data. Since Ifeffit uses the high-R amplitude to estimate uncertainty, it seems to me that what matters is signal-to-noise, not just noise in the original unweighted chi(k

Re: [Ifeffit] about sigma2 for exafs fitting

2017-01-05 Thread Scott Calvin
list below, then, gives a result of 0.64, which indicates such variation is quite likely to have taken place by chance. You chose the worst case of your three, though; the pH 3 case. The pH 10 case shows the most improvement in the R-factor with x = 0.007/0.012 = 0.58. The probability of getting

Re: [Ifeffit] about sigma2 for exafs fitting

2017-01-08 Thread Shaofeng Wang
e most improvement in the R-factor with x = 0.007/0.012 = 0.58. The probability of getting that much improvement by chance drops to 0.30—less likely, but still pretty close to a coin flip. Even the fact that you got all three to show improvement doesn’t quite reach the 95% confidence level, althoug

Re: [Ifeffit] Ifeffit Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13

2012-10-23 Thread Tsuei, Ku-Ding
: Bruce, Perhaps you noticed the Fit color was red (large R-factor 0.074496, poor fit, also seen in the attached figure in the last email) when you loaded in the project file I sent you. When you hit Fit button again the Fit color might turn to green indicating good fit as shown in your result

Re: [Ifeffit] Zinc Sulfide fitting

2011-10-08 Thread JeongEunSuk
hello Two phase can be mixed in ZnS. You need to check r-factor and reduced-chi squrare with two model. If you want to fit only first shell, I suggest. first use cubic zinc-blende model in FEFF, and check goodness of fit. second, fix the bond length of 3 bonding length and change the bond

Re: [Ifeffit] Ifeffit Digest, Vol 111, Issue 5

2012-05-07 Thread Christopher Thomas Chantler
. We would like to publish a qualitative XANES paper and an EXAFS paper. Any suggestions on the type of information (plots, tables, R-factor, etc.) that should be included in each paper separately would be appreciated. Was this the page you were looking for? http://xafs.org

Re: [Ifeffit] Co fitting questions

2016-09-02 Thread Carlo Segre
. As you can see, the fit contains four paths. They are all single scattering paths, and the paths with the four largest ranks according to feff. All paths share the same SO2 and deltaE. Each path has its own delR and ss. After some work, I got it to the point that the fit looks pretty (R-factor

Re: [Ifeffit] Energy Resolution

2018-05-10 Thread Julian Ehwald
Hi Carlo Thank you for your answer. I have completely different question as well: I just started using Artemis, and have a question regarding the amplitude reduction factor: I use different So^2 for different elements, correct? If I start fitting and have paths involving the same kind of atom

Re: [Ifeffit] Inversion Degree

2019-07-05 Thread dcnguyen
atom of Co, you can also calculate the volume fraction in a cubic centimeter of material. To do so, you need to firstly obtain the (short-ranged) lattice parameter (in angstrom) of each phase from an EXAFS fitting with an R-factor less than 0.02. Then the volume (in angstrom cube) of the unit ce

Re: [Ifeffit] amplitude parameter S02 larger than 1

2015-03-20 Thread Joshua Kas
neighbors and the other - 4, and if you choose the site with 4 neighbors to construct FEFF to model your EXAFS data; and if you set your degeneracy equal to 4 and make your amplitude factor as S02*x of one site + S02*(1-x) of another site, then your S02 will come out larger than it should be because

Re: [Ifeffit] amplitude parameter S02 larger than 1

2015-03-20 Thread Anatoly I Frenkel
One possible scenario: If one site has 6 nearest neighbors and the other - 4, and if you choose the site with 4 neighbors to construct FEFF to model your EXAFS data; and if you set your degeneracy equal to 4 and make your amplitude factor as S02*x of one site + S02*(1-x) of another site

Re: [Ifeffit] Yttrium in alumina GBs

2006-12-20 Thread Carlo Segre
. In looking at the structures of Al2O3 and Y2O3, I noticed a couple of interesting issues. The first shell in the Al2O3 structure is # Atom R 3 O 1.8519 3 O 1.9717 The Y2O3, however seems to have two diffente Y sites, and the first shells are Site 1

Re: [Ifeffit] why ss_2 is negative?

2007-02-23 Thread hw26
large compared with the R from literature. But if I force sigma^2 to be positive and e_2 to be below 10 ev, the R-factor will increase and the fitting doesn't seem good. As for the 2.59 Angstrom for equatorial U-O, it is even a little bit larger than the bidentate U-O. I don't think it resonable

Re: [Ifeffit] amplitude parameter S02 larger than 1

2015-03-20 Thread huyanyun
- and R- dependence? Because S02 is not a simplistic parameter which may include both theory and experimental effects, I feel that S02 is not necessarily to be smaller than 1, although I admit S02 smaller than 1 is more defensible as it represents some limitations both in theory model

Re: [Ifeffit] amplitude parameter S02 larger than 1

2015-03-20 Thread Chris Patridge
Yanyun, The so2 also has a correlation with the Debye factor as well. You should also look at that parameter in the fits you've done. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Mar 20, 2015, at 3:46 PM, huyan...@physics.utoronto.ca wrote: Hi Scott, Thank you so much for giving me your thought again

Re: [Ifeffit] Question about PCA

2019-04-24 Thread Joselaine Cáceres gonzalez
Hi Matt, thank you for your answer!. The references I have about Malinowski´s work and some applications are: Malinowski, E.R., *Theory of error in factor analysis.* Analytical Chemistry, 1977. *49*(4): p. 606-612. Malinowski, E.R., *Theory of the distribution of error eigenvalues resulting

Re: [Ifeffit] about sigma2 for exafs fitting

2017-01-08 Thread Scott Calvin
below, then, gives a result of 0.64, which indicates such variation is quite likely to have taken place by chance. You chose the worst case of your three, though; the pH 3 case. The pH 10 case shows the most improvement in the R-factor with x = 0.007/0.012 = 0.58. The probability of getting that muc

Re: [Ifeffit] Estimation of S02

2008-10-07 Thread Leandro Araujo
a more reasonable variation to me. But maybe I'm being tricked by the fact that you have a split first shell and the MSRDs are not supposed to be very similar... I would also suggest opening the r-window to the right side a little bit. (By the way, that bump in the FT at ~ 1 Angstrom seems

Re: [Ifeffit] Multiple data set fit

2009-04-17 Thread Leandro Araujo
Dear Debora, we have done some temperature-dependent EXAFS measurements on nanoparticles (NPs) and analyzed the data through multiple dataset fits, as published in: L.L. Araujo et al., Physical Review B 78, 094112, 2008. R. Giulian et al., Journal of Physics: Condensed Matter 21, 155302, 2009. P

Re: [Ifeffit] What you see is not what you get: help

2009-07-10 Thread Ismael Graff
@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov Subject: [Ifeffit] What you see is not what you get: help Hi folks, I´ve been working on Xanes peaks fitting with Athena (last version) and I found a strange behaviour. I get a good fit looking to the Graphics Window of Athena and to the minimized parameters (R

[Ifeffit] Lattice parameters: EXAFS vs. XRD

2009-12-25 Thread Scott Calvin
-Waller factor in XRD, because the first is the variance in the interatomic distance, and the second is the variance in the atomic position relative to a lattice point. But what about the lattice parameter implied by the nearest-neighbor distance in EXAFS as compared to the lattice parameter

Re: [Ifeffit] Lattice parameters: EXAFS vs. XRD

2009-12-25 Thread Frenkel, Anatoly
the Debye-Waller factor in XRD, because the first is the variance in the interatomic distance, and the second is the variance in the atomic position relative to a lattice point. But what about the lattice parameter implied by the nearest-neighbor distance in EXAFS as compared to the lattice

Re: [Ifeffit] Lattice parameters: EXAFS vs. XRD

2009-12-30 Thread Matt Newville
published. It's well known that the MSRD (sigma squared) for EXAFS differs substantially from the Debye-Waller factor in XRD, because the first is the variance in the interatomic distance, and the second is the variance in the atomic position relative to a lattice point. But what about the lattice

Re: [Ifeffit] Logicused in Artemis to do the error minimization

2010-03-08 Thread Pralay K. Santra
of the covarience matrix.  Those need not be scaled and aren't. The formulas for chi-square, reduced chi-square, and the R-factor are given on pages 16 and following of this postscript file http://cars.uchicago.edu/~newville/feffit/feffit.ps My own take, for what it's worth, on all

Re: [Ifeffit] Linear Combination Fit

2011-05-09 Thread Saugata Datta
good reduced chi square value, / good R Factor values) but shows the following, as an example: Standard Weight E0 X 0.267(0.056) 0 Y 0.249 (0.017) 0 M 0.220 (0.015) 0 N

Re: [Ifeffit] Athena (linear combination fitting)

2011-05-12 Thread Bruce Ravel
EXAFS LCF. To choose from the combinations after fitting is diffcult because the R factor of the first 5 combinations with diffrent reference combinations is similar. And as I see from my fitting the alignement plays really an important role on the LCF. You know when I made allign marked groups

Re: [Ifeffit] Gold Nanoparticle first shell fitting

2011-10-14 Thread Kaiser, Julian
XANES and too high EXAFS intensity compared to my data. Your amplitude factor is 1.54 which also confirms that something was wrong in the experiment. Perhaps - a misalignment? The NP data also look strange... I would not focus on the NP analysis until you figure out why your foil data is so

Re: [Ifeffit] Fitting XANES spectrun with standards

2012-06-29 Thread Bruce Ravel
standards library - using fit all combinations and I will get all the different fit results from the best to the worst. However, it appears that the result given by fit this group does not correspond to the best fit given by fit all combinations (it often corresponds to a higher R factor fit

Re: [Ifeffit] Ifeffit Digest, Vol 134, Issue 20

2014-04-30 Thread Ditty Dixon
Hello IFEFFIT users, Sorry, I used the wrong values I should have set the delta r value, Sorry again, Ditty On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 2:05 PM, ifeffit-requ...@millenia.cars.aps.anl.govwrote: Send Ifeffit mailing list submissions to ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov To subscribe

Re: [Ifeffit] Use of the 3rd and 4th Parameter

2014-06-16 Thread Scott Calvin
. The errors in the GDS-window are exactly 0.0 with no fit taking place (enot = 0, amp = 0 (guess amp = 1) delr = 0 and ss = 0.003) and the R-factor of the fit is way over the top (10^20). I've chosen a value of 0.5 for the 3rd and the 4th parameter just to see if they're working and I

Re: [Ifeffit] amplitude parameter S02 larger than 1

2015-03-19 Thread Chris Patridge
Hi, One thing that could be considered is transferring the SO2 factor from a reliable source such as a standard and then use that value in the fit. Chemical transferability of SO2 to similar systems is often acceptable. You could also try constraining the value in the fit as well. SO2

Re: [Ifeffit] amplitude parameter S02 larger than 1

2015-03-20 Thread huyanyun
is transferring the SO2 factor from a reliable source such as a standard and then use that value in the fit. Chemical transferability of SO2 to similar systems is often acceptable. You could also try constraining the value in the fit as well. SO2 and Debye are also correlated so this may

Re: [Ifeffit] phase problem copper

2015-07-15 Thread Neeb, Matthias
: [Ifeffit] phase problem copper On 07/14/2015 10:18 AM, Neeb, Matthias wrote: I have a standard exafs spectrum of copper K-shell and everything looks as expected (Chi(E), Chi(k), Chi(R), Chi(q) ...) when using Demeter 0.9.21 . However the phase spectrum of (Chi(q)) appears quite different

[Ifeffit] Converting PDF files to CIF files for usage in Artemis

2016-08-08 Thread Ed Han
lation. Standard deviation missing in cell constants. Structure calculated theoretically. Structure type : Auricupride-AuCu3. No R value given in the paper. At least one temperature factor missing in the paper. 2-Thetad(Å) I(f) ( h k l) Theta 1/(2d) 2pi/d n^2 21.706 4.0910 95.4

[Ifeffit] Demeter 0.9.26 launch faillure

2017-12-06 Thread Kirill Lomachenko
dataset. If it is difficult to make the version 0.9.26 available soon, maybe in 0.9.25 there is a possibility to set R-factor as a figure of merit for fitting rather than chi^2? That might also help. Thank you All the best, Kirill Lomachenko -- Dr. Kirill A. Lomachenko Scientist at BM23/ID24

Re: [Ifeffit] [Ext] Analyzing EXAFS data on Artemis

2021-05-27 Thread Carlo Segre
have a certain impurity in the high doping range > on my system, namely Li2Se. I try to include a scattering path from the > respective Li2Se crystal model in my fits, since a Se (absorber) - Li > (backscatterer) pair is present in the R-range of my fit in the Forward > Fourier Transfor

Re: [Ifeffit] [Ext] Analyzing EXAFS data on Artemis

2021-05-27 Thread Matthew Marcus
I try to include a scattering path from the respective Li2Se crystal model in my fits, since a Se (absorber) - Li (backscatterer) pair is present in the R-range of my fit in the Forward Fourier Transform. My question here is if this makes sense since Li is much smaller scatterer compared

Re: [Ifeffit] Ifeffit Digest, Vol 104, Issue 22

2011-10-14 Thread David Sprouster
Julian: I agree with Anatoly. The amplitude of the EXAFS is quite large. I have seen a similar effect in metal foils and NP samples when you forget to take the log of the I0 and IT. This also forces the S02 factor to be artificially high (like it is for your samples) when fitting in Artemis. Maybe

Re: [Ifeffit] Histograms with Demeter -- meaning of fit values

2012-06-25 Thread Bruce Ravel
that its histogram is trivial -- one bin at one distance. The histogram path, like its normal path counterpart, must have the EXAFS equation evaluated. Thus the histogram path has an amplitude, an E0 shift, a delta R, and a sigma^2 that must, somehow, be evaluated. The amplitude is pretty easy

Re: [Ifeffit] Regarding a fit for Fe(OTf)2

2014-12-03 Thread Bruce Ravel
Reduced chi-square : 604.118 R-factor: 0.0195782 Measurement uncertainty (k) : 0.0001264 Measurement uncertainty (R) : 0.0004142 Number of data sets : 1 guess parameters: SO = 1.06525455# +/- 0.05504541 [1.0] delE

Re: [Ifeffit] Regarding a fit for Fe(OTf)2

2014-12-03 Thread Jason Gaudet
: 7324.9401796 Reduced chi-square : 604.118 R-factor: 0.0195782 Measurement uncertainty (k) : 0.0001264 Measurement uncertainty (R) : 0.0004142 Number of data sets : 1 guess parameters: SO = 1.06525455# +/- 0.05504541 [1.0

Re: [Ifeffit] Regarding a fit for Fe(OTf)2

2014-12-03 Thread Jason Gaudet
Number of variables : 4 Chi-square : 7324.9401796 Reduced chi-square : 604.118 R-factor: 0.0195782 Measurement uncertainty (k) : 0.0001264 Measurement uncertainty (R) : 0.0004142 Number of data sets : 1 guess parameters: SO

Re: [Ifeffit] amplitude parameter S02 larger than 1

2015-03-20 Thread Scott Calvin
interlibrary loan, at no cost to you or your institution. In the mean time, a quote from the book that may be useful in thinking about S02: Alternatively, one can treat So2 as a phenomenological parameter that accounts for any amplitude suppression independent of k and R, regardless of physical cause

Re: [Ifeffit] Fwd: about sigma2 for exafs fitting

2017-01-04 Thread Shaofeng Wang
ell (configuration C2), respectively and got some results. Please see the attached table. Smaller reduced chi2 and R-factor were obtained by using configuration C2 as the initial model. Does this mean the species of arsenate in barite is more likely to be HAsO42- instead of AsO43- ? We also have other evid

Re: [Ifeffit] Large Amplitude Values

2010-07-31 Thread Scott Calvin
: Re: [Ifeffit] Large Amplitude Values Hi Gavin, What are the uncertainties on the high S02 values? Fluorescence is unlikely to be the culprit. While it can affect your ability to normalize properly, you're unlikely to account for a factor of 2 by normalization if the data is relatively decent

Re: [Ifeffit] Question about transform windows and statistical parameters

2011-05-12 Thread Scott Calvin
that. In playing around with different windows and dk values my fit variables generally stayed within the error bars, but the size of the error bars could change more than a factor 2. Does this mean that it would make sense to find a window/dk that seems to work for a given group

Re: [Ifeffit] calculating particle size from coordination numbers

2013-10-30 Thread Georges Siddiqi
coordination number to the bulk coordination number via particle radius? (equation 4) How can I do this in Artemis when there's other variables such as deltaE, debye-waller factor and delr to worry about? thanks, georges On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Scott Calvin scal...@sarahlawrence.eduwrote: Hi

Re: [Ifeffit] Energy Resolution

2018-05-10 Thread Julian Ehwald
the amplitude reduction factor: I use different So^2 for different elements, correct? If I start fitting and have paths involving the same kind of atom but once at distance 2A, and once maybe 3A, is this then the same So^2 or am I supposed to model the behaviour of So^2 somehow? Similar for \Delta R: If I

Re: [Ifeffit] Overlapping scattering paths

2007-12-19 Thread van der Veen Renske
factors, i.e. on the order of 0.02-0.06 A^2. Including them and/or the Pt-O-P MS paths lead to a small decrease of the R-factor, but an increase or no change in the reduced chi-square! (HOW CAN THIS BE?) Leaving them out has the advantage that the other fitting parameters have smaller error bars. I

Re: [Ifeffit] amplitude parameter S02 larger than 1

2015-03-20 Thread huyanyun
+/-0.14, R=0.0055, reduced chi^2=17.86, Percentage=0.53+/-0.04 2) Set S02=0.7, R=0.044, reduced chi^2=120.6, percentage=0.81+/-0.2 3) set S02=0.8, R=0.030, reduced chi^2=86.10, percentage=0.77+/-0.07 3) set S02=0.9, R=0.021, reduced chi^2=60.16, percentage=0.72+/-0.06 4) set S02=1.0, R=0.017, reduced

Re: [Ifeffit] amplitude parameter S02 larger than 1

2015-03-23 Thread Scott Calvin
that are known to be bad (e.g. have a huge R-factor, unrealistic fitted parameters, etc.), but since those fits aren't generally the published ones, that's OK. Secondly, the high-R amplitude will not be essentially zero with theoretically-generated data, even if you don't add noise, because the effect

Re: [Ifeffit] amplitude parameter S02 larger than 1

2015-03-23 Thread huyanyun
and rescales accordingly. This means that the estimated uncertainties really aren't dependable for fits that are known to be bad (e.g. have a huge R-factor, unrealistic fitted parameters, etc.), but since those fits aren't generally the published ones, that's OK. Secondly, the high-R amplitude

Re: [Ifeffit] amplitude parameter S02 larger than 1

2015-03-20 Thread Scott Calvin
choose the site with 4 neighbors to construct FEFF to model your EXAFS data; and if you set your degeneracy equal to 4 and make your amplitude factor as S02*x of one site + S02*(1-x) of another site, then your S02 will come out larger than it should be because it will compensate for the fact that you

Re: [Ifeffit] amplitude parameter S02 larger than 1

2015-03-20 Thread Joshua Kas
with 4 neighbors to construct FEFF to model your EXAFS data; and if you set your degeneracy equal to 4 and make your amplitude factor as S02*x of one site + S02*(1-x) of another site, then your S02 will come out larger than it should be because it will compensate for the fact that you

Re: [Ifeffit] amplitude parameter S02 larger than 1

2015-03-20 Thread huyanyun
; charset=us-ascii One possible scenario: If one site has 6 nearest neighbors and the other - 4, and if you choose the site with 4 neighbors to construct FEFF to model your EXAFS data; and if you set your degeneracy equal to 4 and make your amplitude factor as S02*x of one site + S02*(1-x) of another

Re: [Ifeffit] How to do with diffraction peak

2012-12-13 Thread Matthew Marcus
think) noise added to simulate a tube amp. Guess which won? Somebody once wrote a parody in which mercury-filled speaker cables were advertised for their liquid, shimmering sound, but I digress. But for EXAFS, we know the limits of the signals in k and R (say, 50 Ang^-1 and 25 Ang for extrema

Re: [Ifeffit] Regarding a fit for Fe(OTf)2

2014-12-03 Thread pushkar shejwalkar
-factor: 0.0195782 Measurement uncertainty (k) : 0.0001264 Measurement uncertainty (R) : 0.0004142 Number of data sets : 1 guess parameters: SO = 1.06525455# +/- 0.05504541 [1.0] delE = -2.32587026

Re: [Ifeffit] Ifeffit Digest, Vol 153, Issue 12

2015-11-09 Thread Robert Gordon
ples Message-ID: <20151109132407.99127g2zy7ipe...@umail.oit.umass.edu <mailto:20151109132407.99127g2zy7ipe...@umail.oit.umass.edu>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Hi, I have a ge

Re: [Ifeffit] Linear Combination Fitting - More Questions

2008-07-17 Thread Bruce Ravel
not know what is in my sample how can it help? I try to answer it myself and someone can correct me: Certainly not all of my, say 10 reference spektra, are that similar that I can get several LCFs with the same say R-factor. So, I will get some clue to narrow the components. But still there can

Re: [Ifeffit] Hexagonal WO3 (Carlo Segre)

2008-11-25 Thread Yordy Licea Fonseca
to 12 provided that you have a reasonable understanding of what the amplitude reduction factor might be. You can also start by constraining the delta R and sigma-squareds for the two paths until you are sure that the fit makes sense and is stable. If you have data from both W and Mo edges

Re: [Ifeffit] Lattice parameters: EXAFS vs. XRD

2009-12-30 Thread Frenkel, Anatoly
that the MSRD (sigma squared) for EXAFS differs substantially from the Debye-Waller factor in XRD, because the first is the variance in the interatomic distance, and the second is the variance in the atomic position relative to a lattice point. But what about the lattice parameter implied by the nearest

Re: [Ifeffit] Fitting using Experimental standard

2010-01-05 Thread Bruce Ravel
of this equation come in two flavors. One flavor includes the terms 2R (the length of the path), sigma^2 (the mean square disorder about that path length), N (the number of such paths), S_0^2 (the amplitude reduction factor that has to do with the details of the behavior of the other electrons

Re: [Ifeffit] Logicused in Artemis to do the error minimization

2010-03-08 Thread Frenkel, Anatoly
reported by Ifeffit are 1-sigma error bars. The correlations are taken from the off-diagonal elements of the covarience matrix. Those need not be scaled and aren't. The formulas for chi-square, reduced chi-square, and the R-factor are given on pages 16 and following of this postscript file http

Re: [Ifeffit] Logicused in Artemis to do the error minimization

2010-03-08 Thread Frenkel, Anatoly
-- good and is the one that you want to publish, the error bars reported by Ifeffit are 1-sigma error bars. The correlations are taken from the off-diagonal elements of the covarience matrix. Those need not be scaled and aren't. The formulas for chi-square, reduced chi-square, and the R-factor

Re: [Ifeffit] sigma^2 values for multiple scattering paths (Scott Calvin); Re: Ifeffit Digest, Vol 92, Issue 4

2010-10-06 Thread Han Sen Soo
for the MS path and it appears to increase the R factor slightly and tries to maximize the floating degeneracy I set (with a restrain to be physically reasonable based on my model). It does not look as good but at least it seems more plausible. I will try out Shelly's suggestions to see if they work too

Re: [Ifeffit] Gold Nanoparticle first shell fitting

2011-10-14 Thread Anatoly I Frenkel
and too high EXAFS intensity compared to my data. Your amplitude factor is 1.54 which also confirms that something was wrong in the experiment. Perhaps - a misalignment? The NP data also look strange... I would not focus on the NP analysis until you figure out why your foil data is so strange

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