Re: [Ifeffit] Ca EXAFS with Ge220 or InSb111 (Lisa Bovenkamp)

2015-05-11 Thread Lisa Bovenkamp
Hello.

No, the resolution is fine. I can do XANES fine with InSb111. We use those for 
years.
Just had problems with EXAFS because for this long range the flux has to be 
more stable
from the crystals.

Lisa
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Re: [Ifeffit] Ca EXAFS with Ge220 or InSb111 (Lisa Bovenkamp)

2015-05-11 Thread Matt Newville
Hi Lisa,

Just to second Matthew's suggestion, Si(111) should work fine for Ca K
edge. In my experience,  using high angle makes it much more
challenging to keep a stable beam -- roll errors become more important, and
thermal load can also be worse (power density on 1st crystal, heating from
scattering on the second).

So, in that sense, and if it's an option,  Si(111)  (at ~30 degrees) seems
preferable to Ge(220) (at ~50 degrees, I believe).

Hello.

No, the resolution is fine. I can do XANES fine with InSb111. We use those
for years.
Just had problems with EXAFS because for this long range the flux has to be
more stable
from the crystals.

Lisa
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Re: [Ifeffit] Ca EXAFS with Ge220 or InSb111 (Lisa Bovenkamp)

2015-05-11 Thread Robert Gordon
Another possibility is that the L-edges of In and Sb are giving 
considerable energy-dependence to
the beam in the EXAFS region...any non-linearity between detectors will 
make extraction of the EXAFS

problematic. Looking at CAMD's XAS beamline mono specs
http://www.camd.lsu.edu/beamline_info/DCM_beamline_2008.pdf
Si111, Si220 and Ge220 will all cover the Ca K-edge range.

-R.

On 5/11/2015 3:46 PM, Matthew Marcus wrote:
I found Ca EXAFS files on my data directory which go out to 600eV 
above the edge, done using Si111.
What's the symptom of the failure with InSb?  Could harmonics be the 
problem?  If there's something
mechanical going on with the mono such that you go through the max of 
the rocking curve, then as
you go through that max, you get more harmonics, which cause 
normalization failure.

mam

On 5/11/2015 11:06 AM, Lisa Bovenkamp wrote:

Hello.

No, the resolution is fine. I can do XANES fine with InSb111. We use 
those for years.
Just had problems with EXAFS because for this long range the flux has 
to be more stable

from the crystals.

Lisa
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Re: [Ifeffit] Ca EXAFS with Ge220 or InSb111 (Lisa Bovenkamp)

2015-05-11 Thread Matt Newville
Hi Robert, Lisa,


On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Robert Gordon ragor...@alumni.sfu.ca
wrote:

 Another possibility is that the L-edges of In and Sb are giving
 considerable energy-dependence to
 the beam in the EXAFS region...any non-linearity between detectors will
 make extraction of the EXAFS
 problematic. Looking at CAMD's XAS beamline mono specs
 http://www.camd.lsu.edu/beamline_info/DCM_beamline_2008.pdf
 Si111, Si220 and Ge220 will all cover the Ca K-edge range.


I completely agree.   The In L edges (3730, 3938, 4238 eV) and Sb L edges
(4132, 4380, 4698 eV) would make InSb pretty close to impossible to use as
a mono for Ca K edge (4038 eV).

--Matt
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