Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Chandrashekar Babu
Hi, in order to improve my programming skills, I am contemplating learning a new language. Not a scripting language - something else. So far my research indicates either C or C++ - recommendations? IMHO you can learn C and skip C++, assuming that you already know Python (as C++ merely adds OO

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread steve
Hi, On 02/09/2011 11:13 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: hi, in order to improve my programming skills, I am contemplating learning a new language. Not a scripting language - something else. So far my research indicates either C or C++ - recommendations? I'd say learn C only if you are

[Ilugc] Report of FDP on LAMP at Vels Srinivasa College of Engineering

2011-02-09 Thread Alagunambi Welkin
Greetings, On 4th and 5th of February a two day Faculty Development Program was organized and successfully completed by Free Software Foundation, Tamil Nadu with the support of faculties, and volunteers. On behalf of Free Software Foundation, Tamil Nadu, I like to thank the Management of Vels

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Balachandran Sivakumar
Hi, On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:04 PM, steve st...@lonetwin.net wrote: Patterns. I've yet to see UML being successfully (and /effectively/) used in a real-world non-academic setup. Motorola has been using UML and other model driven engg./testing for many many years now. UML/SDL kind of

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: | haskell sounds interesting - but is it used much? \-- Haskell in the industry: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Haskell_in_industry SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:04 PM, steve st...@lonetwin.net wrote: I'd say learn C only if you are interested in systems programming. There just is no way to do systems programming and /not/ know C -- but that's about the only thing C would be useful for these days. Since you know python, you

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 13:55 +0530, Chandrashekar Babu wrote: in order to improve my programming skills, I am contemplating learning a new language. Not a scripting language - something else. So far my research indicates either C or C++ - recommendations? IMHO you can learn C and skip

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Nataraj S Narayan
Hi How about FreePascal and its IDE, Lazarus? http://freepascal.org and http://lazarus.freepascal.org. Object oriented, Platform independent and OS independent, write once, compile anywhere, GTK/QT/Windows toolkit support Any of the old Delphi VCL guys would appreciate. Too quaint for

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Aanjhan R
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: in order to improve my programming skills, I am contemplating learning a new language. Not a scripting language - something else. So far my research indicates either C or C++ - recommendations? Famous quote:

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 09:41 +, Nataraj S Narayan wrote: How about FreePascal and its IDE, Lazarus? http://freepascal.org and http://lazarus.freepascal.org. I forgot to add that I used turbo pascal from 87 to 92 and do not want to go back -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread steve
Hi, On 02/09/2011 03:10 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 13:55 +0530, Chandrashekar Babu wrote: in order to improve my programming skills, I am contemplating learning a new language. Not a scripting language - something else. So far my research indicates either C

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Nataraj S Narayan
Hi Aanjhan, Comparing these two recursive factorials in Lisp and C (define factorial (lambda (n) (if ( n 1) 1 ( * n (fact (- n 1)) int factorial(int i) { if (i1) return (i * factorial(i-1)); } Pardon me for a flawed logic. Lisp code does look cool to me. Much more

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Nataraj S Narayan
Hi Ken FPC does'nt look like TP at all, its more in lines of VB and Delphi. Just that the syntax is Pascalish style. Everything derived from a TObject. Of course, you are free to go without objects, if you choose, the old procedural way. In that too, I like the nested procedures and its

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 10:58 +, Nataraj S Narayan wrote: Maybe you tried Ruby? ouch -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List:

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Nataraj S Narayan
Oh no! sorry for hitting you where is hurts. May be you are looking for something which fires you up in the cool of Nilgiris. How about some good ol' assembler? Program main; function fact(x : integer):integer;assembler; label loop; asm .text .align 2 mov r1,r0 mov r2,#1 loop:

Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

2011-02-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 02/09/2011 07:08 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: are you implying that I have not done research? My research shows that choice of license is irrelevant with regards to success, failure or sustainability of a project, which solely depends on the project fulfilling a need and on the methodology

Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

2011-02-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 17:17 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: You continue to vehemently miss the point I have been making. frankly I am totally unable to understand the point you have been making. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/

Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

2011-02-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 02/09/2011 05:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 17:17 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: You continue to vehemently miss the point I have been making. frankly I am totally unable to understand the point you have been making You already agreed on the fundamental point I was

[Ilugc] need a web mail client with pop3 support

2011-02-09 Thread Raja Subramanian
Dear All, I am moving ~70 mail boxes from an old email provider to a new one. During the migration, I want to provide users access to their old POP3 mailboxes using a web mail client. All web mail clients I have used and evaluated - Squirrel Mail, Round Cube, etc - are IMAP only, and do not

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Venkatraman S
How to train your brain to flip to a new language : http://www.bitesizeirishgaelic.com/blog/self-learning-non-widespread-languages/ -V http://blizzardzblogs.blogspot.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Vamsee Kanakala
On Wednesday 09 February 2011 11:48 AM, Arun SAG wrote: I'd suggest lisp http://www.landoflisp.com/ or haskell. +1. Every time I'm feeling rather chuffed that I managed to crack a hard problem, I go back and try some functional programming. It quickly brings me back to the familiar I'm not

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Kumaran R
Hi, I think learning C would be good for a start. One advantage of C is that it is the most used language of the kernel. So if you're interested in kernel programming, C is a must have. I've heard that the book Deep C Secrets written by an Indian author is a good place to start. With

Re: [Ilugc] need a web mail client with pop3 support

2011-02-09 Thread Kumaran R
Hi, SquirrelMail is capable of retrieving e-mail from a POP3 server, via the included Mail Fetch plugin. However, SquirrelMail requires an IMAP server to run atop of. The IMAP server store the e-mails and is also used for authentication, so if there is no IMAP server, SquirrelMail can

Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

2011-02-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 18:07 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: frankly I am totally unable to understand the point you have been making You already agreed on the fundamental point I was making which is that a decision on which license to pick for your projects is an important one. yes How

Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

2011-02-09 Thread Asokan Pichai
[SNIPPED] I do not want to discuss anything offlist - I am quite sure that lots of list members are eagerly following the discussion +N (and most of them cheering for you) That I am not very sure. -- Asokan Pichai *---* We will find a way. Or, make one. (Hannibal)

[Ilugc] [OT] [OH Definition] OSHW Definition v1.0 - RELEASED!

2011-02-09 Thread Sathishkumar Duraisamy
DONE! Please forward far and wide! and endorse if you agree http://www.openhardwaresummit.org/2011/02/10/open-hardware-definition-1-0-released/ This is a very exciting moment for the movement Congrats and thanks to all! ayah On Feb 8, 2011, at 8:11 PM, ayah bdeir wrote: Dear all We are finally

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Raja Subramanian
On Feb 9, 2011 11:15 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: in order to improve my programming skills, I am contemplating learning a new language. Not a scripting language - something else. Still a scripting language, but do have a look at JavaScript. It has more features and

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Vinod Parthasarathy
On 9 February 2011 11:48, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: in order to improve my programming skills, I am contemplating learning a new language. Not a scripting language - something else. So far my research

[Ilugc] Exception in jpcap path

2011-02-09 Thread ராஜ பாண்டி
Hi, I've created a GUI application which uses jpcap library. i installed jdk1.6.0_11 in /opt folder and place the libjpcap.so, jpcap.jar files in /opt/jdk1.6.0_11/jre/lib/ext. i've set the JAVA_HOME variable to my /opt/jdk1.6 in .bashrc file . Then,I've the built the jar file for my

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Vinod Parthasarathy
On 9 February 2011 16:02, Nataraj S Narayan natara...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Aanjhan, Comparing these two recursive factorials in Lisp and C (define factorial (lambda (n) (if ( n 1) 1 ( * n (fact (- n 1)) int factorial(int i) { if (i1) return (i *

Re: [Ilugc] Exception in jpcap path

2011-02-09 Thread aravind kumar
2011/2/10 ராஜ பாண்டி vrp...@gmail.com Hi, I've created a GUI application which uses jpcap library. i installed jdk1.6.0_11 in /opt folder and place the libjpcap.so, jpcap.jar files in /opt/jdk1.6.0_11/jre/lib/ext. i've set the JAVA_HOME variable to my /opt/jdk1.6 in .bashrc file .

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Vinod Parthasarathy
On 9 February 2011 12:00, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 11:48 +0530, Arun SAG wrote: in order to improve my programming skills, I am contemplating learning a new language. Not a scripting language - something else. So far my research indicates

Re: [Ilugc] learning a new language

2011-02-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 10:50 +0530, Raja Subramanian wrote: On Feb 9, 2011 11:15 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: in order to improve my programming skills, I am contemplating learning a new language. Not a scripting language - something else. Still a scripting

Re: [Ilugc] Understanding Free and Open source code licenses

2011-02-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 04:20 +, Asokan Pichai wrote: That I am not very sure. *you* are in my camp - w000t -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List:

[Ilugc] FOSS intro session in Karpagam Institute of Technology, coimbatore dt.

2011-02-09 Thread Baskar Selvaraj
Dear all, Yesterday, myself did a session on Intro To FOSS at Karpagam Institute of Technology, Coimbatore dt, for the First and Second Year MCA students. I would like to thank the Principal Dr. T. Ramachandran and HOD-MCA for organizing the programme. This institution have started migrating to