Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-05 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 02 March 2009 21:12:38 Raman.P wrote: The topic has been changed, But for your kind information please see this thread from KG, http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2009-March/046701.html That is different calling for suggestion. Well I have given many already to him, even

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-05 Thread Vikram Vincent
Your are forgetting very important point i.e NRCFOSS. It is National Resource Centre for Free and Open Source Software paid out of taxpayers money, to promote FOSS not individuals. It is acceptable even if an ILUGC volunteer has done it, because it is only voluntary. Whereas anything from

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-04 Thread Srinivasan Sundararajan
On 3/4/09, Prakash A S asprakas...@gmail.com wrote: I dont like to stop this thread just like that. Upto my knowledge, there is a person can possibly stop this thread with +ve conclusion here - Mr.Bharathi. enough of this I think. Bharathi had already said STOP. Don't reply to this thread.

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Parthan SR
sivaji j.g wrote: Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background for FOSS development ? Because they are interested to know and contribute? I at least know one person who came in without any idea about FOSS, went up to delivering a lot of talks on FOSS and now

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Common Man
Plz can someone tell me where can I get BOSS DVD's.I don't know where else to ask? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Parthan SR parth.technofr...@gmail.comwrote: sivaji j.g wrote: Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background for FOSS development ? Because they

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 03 March 2009 13:41:33 Parthan SR wrote: sivaji j.g wrote: Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background for FOSS development ?   Because they are interested to know and contribute? I at least know one person who came in without any idea about FOSS,

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background for FOSS development ? May be relative to Boss development takes a precedence ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Srinivasan Sundararajan
hi all: please excuse me for responding to a mail which has no connection to the current thread. On 3/3/09, Common Man kilpauk.kandasw...@gmail.com wrote: Plz can someone tell me where can I get BOSS DVD's.I don't know where else to ask? dear friend: 0. am not sure how much you are into FOSS

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread இராமதாசன்
sivaji j.g wrote: Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background for FOSS development ? Yes. It makes sense when We realize no college opt FOSS as part of their Curriculam. and NRCFOSS isn't rknowsys to say only IIT கொம்பன்s can step in ;-) NRCFOSS has been

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:20 PM, இராமதாசன் ramada...@amachu.net wrote: sivaji j.g wrote: Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background for FOSS development ? Yes. It makes sense when We realize no college opt FOSS as part of their Curriculam. and NRCFOSS

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Srinivasan Sundararajan
On 3/3/09, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr.Srinivasan Soundrarajan So i can expect some facts as well to http://annauniv-tamilnadu.blogspot.com/2009/01/nrcfoss-are-you-there_30.htmlfrom your NRCFOSS capacity , open discussion in this mail. Since the attitude

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Raman.P
--- On Tue, 3/3/09, Srinivasan Sundararajan srini...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree with Raman : simply being a volunteer doesn't absolve one from the responsibilities nor does working for an organization funded by tax payers (sic) thrusts a load of absolute responsibilities on the

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 03 March 2009 14:06:01 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் wrote:  Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background for FOSS development ? May be relative to Boss development takes a precedence more FUD - you are well aware that NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC is not involved in

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Prakash A S
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Raman.P raam...@yahoo.co.in wrote: --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Srinivasan Sundararajan srini...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree with Raman : simply being a volunteer doesn't absolve one from the responsibilities nor does working for an organization funded by tax

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 03 March 2009 15:28:25 Raman.P wrote: It is my wish that NRCFOSS achieves its slated objective - which is similar to that of any LUG. this is the root of the confusion. The objective of NRC-FOSS is far more limited than the objective of a LUG. For example, a LUG can agitate against

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Prakash A S
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: And this RTI bullshit. Thiagarajan and his friends keep sending mails here accusing NRC-FOSS of various things. They have no time to substantiate their idiotic allegations and no time or money to petition the RTI

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 03 March 2009 19:09:27 Prakash A S wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: And this RTI bullshit. Thiagarajan and his friends keep sending mails here accusing NRC-FOSS of various things. They have no time to substantiate their

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
Hello kg. And this RTI bullshit. Thiagarajan and his friends keep sending mails here accusing NRC-FOSS of various things. They have no time to substantiate their idiotic allegations and no time or money to petition the RTI folks. They also cannot afford the bus fare to Chromepet to come and

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Raja Subramanian
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: On Tuesday 03 March 2009 19:09:27 Prakash A S wrote: Any To/Fro sponsorship from NRCFOSS?...;) train fare is 4 rupees - if an application is submitted in triplicate we may consider We haven't had such a good

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread varadarajan narayanan
We haven't had such a good flame war on this list in a very long time. I'm out of popcorn, can you all please wait until I refill? Hi ! True ! When the discussions is about a plate being half full or half empty , then there is no end to it ! Because both are right ! I wish 1) NRC

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Prashanth Mohan
Hello Mr Srinivasan, May I ask what I did to invite your scorn? :-). On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Srinivasan Sundararajan srini...@gmail.com wrote: Some (of I hope not many) will also be looking askance at me -- not only I am from NRCFOSS, I am now going off from AU-KBC to join C-DAC

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Balachandran Sivakumar
Hi, On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:04 PM, varadarajan narayanan rad.naraya...@gmail.com wrote: I wish 2) LUGC members could have taken it in the stride - mentioned it but not make an issue of it . Exactly. Even in the previous FOSSConf, a few talks(though not NRC-FOSS) used Windows and

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread ம . ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan logic.li...@gmail.com wrote: and NRCFOSS isn't rknowsys to say only IIT கொம்பன்s can step in ;-) http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2005-November/021837.html -- Mailing list guidelines கொம்பன் - Geek I felt :-) Any better

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 03 March 2009 20:25:45 Prashanth Mohan wrote: Hello Mr Srinivasan, May I ask what I did to invite your scorn? :-). he is talking about how some people scorned you because you joined MR -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Srinivasan Sundararajan
On 3/3/09, Prashanth Mohan prashmo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Mr Srinivasan, May I ask what I did to invite your scorn? :-). hello prashanth: i thought i was putting myself alongside with you -- you get associated with FOSS and later you join some organization which is not in the good books

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread satyaakam goswami
the problem could have been solved in 1 minute - stop the talk, click 'file', click 'save as', click on fileype and select an open format, click 'ok' and restart the talk. Inside of beating our breasts and apologising, all we need to do is note this point down and see that the hall marshalls

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread satyaakam goswami
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: The problem could have been solved in 1 second if someone from nrc-foss asked an apology. Still i don't get how an apology from nrc-foss or anyone will help the cause . So far from whatever i have read on the list with

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-03 Thread Prakash A S
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:48 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: The problem could have been solved in 1 second if someone from nrc-foss asked an apology. Still i don't get how an apology from nrc-foss or anyone

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Prakash A S
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Raman.P raam...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Dear luggies FossConf-09 is over. Here are somethings I felt bad Nice to hear that, FOSSConf finished successfully. But what I felt bad is, I could not attend this geat event this time. I congrats all the Linux and Open

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Prakash A S
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Parthan SR parth.technofr...@gmail.comwrote: Prakash A S wrote: I have few queries here. Suppose a person is interested in a open source topic, say example Python. She/he dont bother about whether she/he is going to work in Linux or Windows. Will this open

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Parthan SR
Prakash A S wrote: Yes. I also agree that, in fossconf it wont accept from the speaker. But we accepted them to uploaded their .ppt slides. This issue claims that the mistake is also from our side. Allowed them and finally blamed only them is meaning less. First, I was no way involved with

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Prakash A S
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Raman.P raam...@yahoo.co.in wrote: --- On Mon, 2/3/09, Prakash A S asprakas...@gmail.com wrote: Your are forgetting very important point i.e NRCFOSS. It is National Resource Centre for Free and Open Source Software paid out of taxpayers money, to promote

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
Hello Mr.Prakash, Your are forgetting very important point i.e NRCFOSS. It is National Resource Centre for Free and Open Source Software paid out of taxpayers money, to promote FOSS not individuals. It is acceptable even if an ILUGC volunteer has done it, because it is only voluntary.

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Raman.P
--- On Mon, 2/3/09, Prakash A S asprakas...@gmail.com wrote: The topic has been changed, But for your kind information please see this thread from KG, http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2009-March/046701.html That is different calling for suggestion. Well I have given many already

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
Hi , wow! you know how to count?? do you also know that 'people' is plural? So when you said nrcfoss people are producing proprietary slides you are telling lies? yes or no? or *has someone paid you to do propaganda*? I am curious to know how much copies of microsoft powerpoint bought by NRCFOSS

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , I am curious to know how much copies of microsoft powerpoint bought by NRCFOSS till this day. Sorrỵ... it is not just microsoft powerpoint . i was mentioning about microsoft office packagẹ. Thanks

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 02 March 2009 23:10:41 Arun SAG wrote: I gave my feedback in http://www.fossconf.in/feedback, I stated something like some people in NRC foss used proprietary ppt slides. After 10 minutes i got a private mail from Mr.Kenneth Gonsalves asking that how many of the numerous nrcfoss

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Arun SAG
This is childish and insane. Who started first? I just sent the feedback in http://www.fossconf.in/feedback. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: On Monday 02 March 2009 23:10:41 Arun SAG wrote: I gave my feedback in http://www.fossconf.in/feedback, I

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread இராமதாசன்
Huh, There is a possibility that the presenter would have prepared the presentation using OO but saved it as ppt for inter-compatibility reasons. Still that could have avoided. Chod dho Ise Idhar! -- ஆமாச்சு ___ To unsubscribe, email

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Arun SAG
**Prof is ready to discuss. But no one is ready here. Excuse me, Mr.Kenneth has asked me questions like* has someone paid you to do propaganda*? for using a plural instead of singular. If you keep irritating people with bad questions like this for pointing out something bad Who will come forward

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread sivaji j.g
I really disappointed this word from Raman. The motivation of FOSSConf is not to concentrate like this. I dont know, why you mentioned this issue in the first. because a law maker has turned to a law breaker. Regards, -A S P ___ To

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Prakash A S
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Satish Eerpini eerp...@gmail.com wrote: I have no more words here for why she uploaded .ppt files here. Instead, I interested to know about WHY THIS OPEN SOURCE WORLD ALLOWED TO EXECUTE ALL OUR OPEN TOOLS IN WINDOWS PLATFORM INSTEAD OF ONLY IN LINUX GIVING

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
Dear Mr.Prakash, I guess, you are the person asked the RTI for NRCFOSS activities, early?. May be 6 months back i think. I am not sure. Its somthing like, you are knocking the door for oppertunity. Yes, i am the same person, I who wrote mail to Prof.CNK. I expressed my Anguish with Prof. CNK by

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread sivaji j.g
for new people joining NRCFOSS as many of them tend to be not from a FOSS background and occasionally with no clue of FOSS. (Well, said in the best interests of NRCFOSS). Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background for FOSS development ? NRCFOSS has been

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Aanjhan R
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: This is childish and insane. Who started first? I just sent the feedback in http://www.fossconf.in/feedback. Dont make Private Mails public. Period. Request to end this conversation and have better constructive conversation on

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday 03 March 2009 12:15:01 sivaji j.g wrote: NRCFOSS has been promoting FOSS for a long while among the colleges isn't it ? why don't they recruit students who are well trained in FOSS ? because the budget is not enough to pay the salaries that they can get outside - and even the people

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Prakash A S
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Srinivasan Sundararajan srini...@gmail.com wrote: as a member of NRCFOSS , and presumably with some responsibility for our team, I apologise for the use of powerpoint in geetha's presentation. attn.: prakash : i agree with your statement that she is new to

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Srinivasan Sundararajan
On 3/3/09, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr.Prakash, You must be aware we are doing foss activity as a voluntary gesture not a commitment duty which is assigned to you, i would further reiterate that you have the moral responsibility in reaching us, rather than

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Raman.P
-- On Tue, 3/3/09, Prakash A S asprakas...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. Its our choice. She selected the WAMP and took some screen shots and added it her slides. We cant say dont use WAMP; Instead we could not allowed the author to take/continue the talk. We can start a another thread and argue,

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Srinivasan Sundararajan
On 3/3/09, Prakash A S asprakas...@gmail.com wrote: And upto my knowledge, in NRCFOSS we dont have any interaction with new comers reg how to follow the FOSS culture. I discussed with her reg this issue. She prepared her in OO; But saved as a ppt format. I would like to clear them that, we

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Prakash A S
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:15 PM, sivaji j.g sivaji2...@gmail.com wrote: for new people joining NRCFOSS as many of them tend to be not from a FOSS background and occasionally with no clue of FOSS. (Well, said in the best interests of NRCFOSS). Does it makes any sense in recruiting

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Common Man
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Prakash A S asprakas...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:15 PM, sivaji j.g sivaji2...@gmail.com wrote: for new people joining NRCFOSS as many of them tend to be not from a FOSS background and occasionally with no clue of FOSS. (Well, said in

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-02 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
Dear Mr.Srinivasan Soundrarajan Which issues have been avoided? There can be and will be difference of opinion how one contributes to FOSS. Can you please elaborate on the state of denial from the TEAM NRCFOSS? I do recall that one issue you had raised was given a response -- not a denial but

[Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-01 Thread Raman.P
Dear luggies FossConf-09 is over. Here are somethings I felt bad a.Powerpoint and Windows based slide show from NRCFOSS. b.WiMAX from Bannariamman College. This was on non-free licence. We asked them to stop demoing and only talk about concept. c.Online Insurance from SACS Engg college