Re: [Ilugc] Project idea/GSoC

2009-10-06 Thread Aanjhan R
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Mohan Sundaram mohan@gmail.com wrote:
 Short answer: Okular cannot change the annotations in PDF documents.

Yeah true! Just checked out by trying to Annotate in Okular and
opening in Adobe Reader. Didnt work. But Annotating PDF in Xournal
works (which I use most times if needed)

Check that out.

Regards,
A
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Re: [Ilugc] Project idea/GSoC

2009-10-05 Thread Aanjhan R
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Mohan Sundaram mohan@gmail.com wrote:
 As far as I've read, Okular does not have these features. It, however,
 has the capability to read/render different formats. This makes it an
 interesting platform for review/ annotation across multiple formats.

When you click Review , you *should* be able to annotate the PDF. No?

May be I am missing something here.

Regards,
A
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Re: [Ilugc] Project idea/GSoC

2009-10-05 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Aanjhan R aanj...@gmail.com wrote:

 When you click Review , you *should* be able to annotate the PDF. No?

 May be I am missing something here.

 Regards,
 A

Seems so in one screenshot. Will check it out. However, when I went
thro' the FAQs, I got these.
Why the newly added annotations are not in my PDF document?
Short answer: Okular cannot change the annotations in PDF documents.

Longer answer: the library used for reading PDF documents (Poppler)
does not allow changing the annotations inside a PDF document. Also,
due to the fact that Okular allows you to annotate in any kind of
document it supports (even if that format does not support
annotations), Okular saves the annotations internally in the local
data directory for each user.

[Up to Questions]

How can I annotate a document and send it to a friend/collegue/etc?
Since KDE 4.2, Okular has the document archiving feature. This is an
Okular-specific format for carrying the document plus various metadata
related to it (currently only annotations).
You can save a document archive from the open document by choosing
File - Export As - Document Archive.
To open an Okular document archive, just open it with Okular as it
would be eg a PDF document.

-- Mohan Sundaram
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Re: [Ilugc] Project idea/GSoC

2009-10-04 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Kapil Hari Paranjape ka...@imsc.res.in wrote:
 Hello,

 On Sun, 04 Oct 2009, Mohan Sundaram wrote:
 The kind of annotations I'm talking of are typewriter inserts,
 rectangles, oval, circles, lines, arrows, comments, link boxes etc.

 I don't know about all these things so my suggestion may be a bit
 off. I _have_ done PDF markup in two ways:

  1. Write text on top of the PDF file. One can do this with flpsed
  which is short for fltk PostScript Editor.

  2. Fill up PDF forms by extracting the FDF data. One can do this
  with pdftk.

In most of these s/w, PDF needs to be converted as PS/ background
images and then edited. E.g GIMP brings them in as images. This is a
big issue when we have multi-page documents. If these were annotation
elements, then we can turn their visibility on and off, skip from one
to another while reviewing feedback given as annotations etc. Filling
up forms can be met by ftpsed or pdftk etc. as we do not need
extensive annotation capability. Comments and notes are the one used
most in reviewing. Arrows, box markers, highlights and link embedding
are use less but are important nevertheless.

As far as I've read, Okular does not have these features. It, however,
has the capability to read/render different formats. This makes it an
interesting platform for review/ annotation across multiple formats.

I did not know of Xournal and it does seem to explicitly support PDF
annotations. Need to check that out.

I had not dwelled much on PDFEdit earlier as it was described as a
library. Seeing it now, I see a GUI thingy. Need to explore this too.

Given all this, I still think it is a worthwhile project for some one
to take up on Okular.

Mohan Sundaram
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