Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread PJ
On 09-May-07, at 10:38 AM, PJ wrote: BSD style licencing is better than most, but such licences have had a role in helping MS Windows to its current position (which is why Bill Gates favours them). Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and which is why apache is running rings

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread PJ
On 09-May-07, at 1:49 PM, PJ wrote: Other less-established but important projects under any BSD style licence are still at risk. Kenneth Gonsalves writes: name some. or name at least one or two (stick to those without lucky and talented developers because we have already established

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
PJ wrote: Kenneth Gonsalves writes: name some. or name at least one or two (stick to those without lucky and talented developers because we have already established that bsd +luck+talent != danger) 2. Use your clairvoyance to figure out which project is going to be unlucky and

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 09-May-07, at 5:34 PM, PJ wrote: name some. or name at least one or two (stick to those without lucky and talented developers because we have already established that bsd +luck+talent != danger) Sure. I just need a list of names of projects that are important that will be unlucky

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread Raj Mathur
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: [snip] I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too many people throw the BSD networking stack as an example whenever this discussion comes up,

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 09-May-07, at 7:15 PM, Raj Mathur wrote: On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: [snip] I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too many people throw the BSD networking stack as

Re: [ilugd] mounting problems

2007-05-09 Thread Subhasis Ray
Hi Hemant, This may be too late a reply, (you might have already found out the solution) but still here it is man page for mount says Normally, only the superuser can mount file systems. However, when *fstab* contains the *user* option on a line, anybody can mount the corresponding system.

Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-09 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Lokesh Bhog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How does this pact affect Linux? Bad for Microsoft's FUD campaign against Gnu/linux. According to groklaw, Dell purchased licenses for Suse enterprise Linux from Microsoft, NOT from Novell. That means, well, M$ is licensing the gnu/linux OS; which M$

Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-09 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Mahesh T. Pai wrote: That means, well, M$ is licensing the gnu/linux OS; which M$ cannot do unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the viral clause in GPL applies to M$ patents!!! Microsoft cannot change the license of GPL software. I am sure there lawyers understand this more than

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Raj Mathur wrote: On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: [snip] I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too many people throw the BSD networking stack as an example whenever this

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread PJ
Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so, in short, your statement that many important BSD projects are in danger is not based on any factual knowledge or research. I've told you a principle that has been shown to hold true (viz. danger of BSD projects being usurped for all projects

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread PJ
Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: [snip] I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too many people throw the BSD networking stack as an

[ilugd] [Commercial] Fwd: [Reader-list] researcher req. for survey of educational software in market.

2007-05-09 Thread G Karunakar
OT but fwd to anyone interested. -- Forwarded message -- From: Guntupalli Karunakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 10, 2007 7:40 AM Subject: [Reader-list] researcher req. for survey of educational software in market. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Sarai is doing a survey of educational

Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-09 Thread lawgon
Quoting Mahesh T. Pai [EMAIL PROTECTED]: unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the viral clause in GPL since when did GPL become viral? kg ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread lawgon
Quoting Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Raj Mathur wrote: On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: [snip] I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too many people throw the

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread lawgon
Quoting PJ [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so, in short, your statement that many important BSD projects are in danger is not based on any factual knowledge or research. I've told you a principle that has been shown to hold true (viz. danger of BSD

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread lawgon
Quoting PJ [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: [snip] I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too many

Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-09 Thread vivek khurana
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Mahesh T. Pai [EMAIL PROTECTED]: unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the viral clause in GPL since when did GPL become viral? Since its inception. regrds VK Engineers normally have problem with every solution. If not they have a

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread PJ
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too many people throw the BSD networking stack as an example whenever this discussion comes up,

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread PJ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FTP is software? I always thought it was a protocol Sigh. Frederick, I know you're smarter than this. You are being deliberately dense here, which makes rational discussion hard. For: FTP read: The implementation of the FTP protocol in the software named

Re: [ilugd] Freed 2007 - Thoughts on the name?

2007-05-09 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
You are being deliberately dense here, which makes rational discussion hard. For: FTP read: The implementation of the FTP protocol in the software named ftp.exe on win98 for example. and how did that affect the FTP protocol? It did not (AFAIK) and I did not claim it did. I

Re: [ilugd] Dell joins Microsoft, Novell in Linux pact

2007-05-09 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 10-May-07, at 9:57 AM, vivek khurana wrote: Quoting Mahesh T. Pai [EMAIL PROTECTED]: unless it conforms to the GNU GPL, which means the viral clause in GPL since when did GPL become viral? Since its inception. does RMS know? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL