[ilugd] http://www.egovernments.org/ [Was: [OT] M$ Tax Refund Quest]

2008-05-19 Thread Raj Mathur
Starting a new thread since the old one has been abused enough :) Oh, are you saying that the application/web site has been designed and implemented by these Foundation dudes?  If that is the case I'm thoroughly disappointed -- I'd have thought that the luminaries behind the Foundation

Re: [ilugd] [OT] M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread Sudev Barar
2008/5/19 Manish [EMAIL PROTECTED]: this list and Linux's survival is not dependent on MS bashing. Just a quick clarifications. I do not think I have engaged in MS bashing so far (except for the one line don/goon imagery.) Please take this discussion to some relevant list. Sure, if

Re: [ilugd] [TroubleShooting]Unable to visit any websit e, can ping the network.

2008-05-19 Thread Rohit Kumar
Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rohit Kumar writes: Rohit Sunil Ghai [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Rohit, You might be having DNS problem. Make sure your DNS servers are properly configured. What does firefox show when you enter any

Re: [ilugd] [OT] M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread Raj Mathur
On Monday 19 May 2008, Sudev Barar wrote: [snip] Third Yes we went and brought it with our eyes open but no where the manufacturer said that the EULA is contingent on my (buyers) acceptance in the adverts. If there was no EULA being forced down on me I would have but lived with it. BUT here I

Re: [ilugd] [OT] M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread Manish
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] So here's my counter-proposal to Lenovo, MS, and any other interested party: My terms of buying a computer from you: I will willingly buy and use your computer with Winduhs or any other OS pre-installed, but I

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [Ilugc] Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread Manish
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:57 PM, sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote: [snip] Lets have a Hall of Shame list also for such companies/devices. At least people can look at the list and decide NOT to purchase those devices. Every time someone purchases anything other than the list, a mail should be send

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [Ilugc] Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread sudhanwa Jogalekar
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Praveen A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/5/18 Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For starters, can we track this issue on the twiki? If we need to take things to the next level, we have to gather enough law cases and other relevant facts. In general, I

Re: [ilugd] M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
+++ Raj Mathur [19/05/08 13:34 +0530]: My terms of buying a computer from you: I will willingly buy and use your computer with Winduhs or any other OS pre-installed, but I will not accept the EULA. If this is OK by you, then I will not ask for a refund on Winduhs either. Does that sound

Re: [ilugd] M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread Manish
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: [snip] Does that sound reasonable? :) Just thinking. If I am the manufacturer, would I care if you accept or do not accept the EULA? As long as you don't violate the terms of the EULA (no matter that you did not accept it). I guess

Re: [ilugd] M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread Sudev Barar
2008/5/19 Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just thinking. If I am the manufacturer, would I care if you accept or do not accept the EULA? As long as you don't violate the terms of the EULA (no matter that you did not accept it). Interesting I did not buy a product from M$ nor

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread Manish
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Manish wrote: [snip] So I guess there are going to be two parts to this effort/fight: short term and long term. The short term part needs to be dealt with in MRTP and/or consumer court. BTW, meanwhile Lenovo is figuring out their address in India that

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread Sudev Barar
2008/5/19 Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 19-May-08, at 6:40 PM, Manish wrote: - My suggestion of approaching consumer forum/MRTP was not taken very enthusiastically. - He told that many cases in consumer forums drag from 3 months to over an year. 3 months to a year is

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 19-May-08, at 7:54 PM, Sudev Barar wrote: 3 months to a year is amazingly fast - go for it. Not that the consumer forum is going to understand anything, but by the time you reach the state forum or national forum you will find more willing ears. I fail to see how and where the high court

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread sudhanwa Jogalekar
[snip] So I guess there are going to be two parts to this effort/fight: short term and long term. The short term part needs to be dealt with in MRTP and/or consumer court. BTW, meanwhile Lenovo is figuring out their address in India that can receive a legal notice. But what about the

[ilugd] M$ Refund

2008-05-19 Thread Mani A
Interesting Link (mainly for the ilugd marathon) http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/19/french-court-nobbles-asus http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/19/windows-refund-precedence-france/ Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc