Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread Gaurav Mishra
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Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread sudhanwa Jogalekar
[snip] > >> So I guess there are going to be two parts to >> this effort/fight: short term and long term. > >> The short term part needs to be dealt with in >> MRTP and/or consumer court. BTW, meanwhile >> Lenovo is figuring out their address in India >> that can receive a legal notice. > >> But w

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 19-May-08, at 7:54 PM, Sudev Barar wrote: >> 3 months to a year is amazingly fast - go for it. Not that the >> consumer forum is going to understand anything, but by the time you >> reach the state forum or national forum you will find more willing >> ears. I fail to see how and where the high

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread Sudev Barar
2008/5/19 Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 19-May-08, at 6:40 PM, Manish wrote: >> - My suggestion of approaching consumer forum/MRTP was not taken >> very enthusiastically. >> >> - He told that many cases in consumer forums drag from 3 months to >> over an year. > > 3 months to a ye

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 19-May-08, at 6:40 PM, Manish wrote: > - My suggestion of approaching consumer forum/MRTP was not taken > very enthusiastically. > > - He told that many cases in consumer forums drag from 3 months to > over an year. 3 months to a year is amazingly fast - go for it. Not that the consumer

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread Sudev Barar
2008/5/19 Manish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Lenovo finally sent an address for legal notice. > Good. Some progress. > And I just spoke to a local lawyer. Here are the minutes: > - Explained the situation to him. > - He said that vendor can not disown the product and this is > tantamount to cheating

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-19 Thread Manish
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Manish wrote: [snip] > So I guess there are going to be two parts to > this effort/fight: short term and long term. > The short term part needs to be dealt with in > MRTP and/or consumer court. BTW, meanwhile > Lenovo is figuring out their address in India > th

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-17 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 17-May-08, at 7:56 PM, Anupam Jain wrote: >> I do not see why we should not reward those manufacturers that treat >> linux with respect and buy hardware from them. Maybe a small >> sacrifice that one will not get the 'exact' config one wants - but >> then, that is the price of freedom ... > >

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-17 Thread Manish
Warning: long email (143 lines) Consolidating many emails. Atanu> I need some info before I can take this up as a story... Could you be a little more specific please? Atanu> When you buy a pre-bundled Windoze and boot it for Atanu> the first time, does this licence pop up, or the Atanu>

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-17 Thread Anupam Jain
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 17-May-08, at 12:11 AM, Linux Lingam wrote: > >> have exchanged a few emails with the editor of Express Computer as >> well. he, well, for lack of a better word, expressed, his views on the >> topic, and wondered w

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-17 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 17-May-08, at 12:11 AM, Linux Lingam wrote: > have exchanged a few emails with the editor of Express Computer as > well. he, well, for lack of a better word, expressed, his views on the > topic, and wondered why buy a laptop with windows if you do not want > that OS, just go ahead and buy the

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-17 Thread Linux Lingam
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Dhiraj Gaur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Niyam > > I think we need to make him clear that suppose I want a BRAND X laptop > and the company is not offering a model without windows installed in it > (as is the case with certain high end models of HP and Lenov

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-16 Thread Dhiraj Gaur
Niyam I think we need to make him clear that suppose I want a BRAND X laptop and the company is not offering a model without windows installed in it (as is the case with certain high end models of HP and Lenovo where they proudly say " COMPANY recommends Windows Vista") in such a case the

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-16 Thread Linux Lingam
[snip] meanwhile, here's a copy-and-paste of the emailed response from prashant L rao, the editor of express computer: Hi, Here are my thoughts on the issue: 1. Most OEMs sell laptops with Linux/DOS preloaded on them. So you don't *have* to buy a Vista machine. 2. Even if you do buy a Vista mach

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-16 Thread Linux Lingam
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Sudev Barar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good thing going here guys. Lets crack this. > Nice actions by Niyam and others. Manish do not feel that you are > being made a murga but "hum tumhare peeche hain" ;-) > > [before I hear some sniggers no not THAT way] > -- >

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-16 Thread Sudev Barar
Good thing going here guys. Lets crack this. Nice actions by Niyam and others. Manish do not feel that you are being made a murga but "hum tumhare peeche hain" ;-) [before I hear some sniggers no not THAT way] -- Regards, Sudev Barar Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to ther

[ilugd] Fwd: Fwd: M$ Tax Refund Quest

2008-05-16 Thread Linux Lingam
dear all, invited P K Roy (PKR) from cybermedia group (pcquest, dataquest, Voice&Data, etc) and Rahul Chopra from LinuxForYou, to consider covering this as a feature-story. received a prompt response from PKR, asking for more inputs, so provided those below. if there are any additional points you