Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-06-02 Thread Charles Lenington
On 6/2/16 9:16 PM, Eric Volker wrote: I just wanted to make a final report on this experiment, in case anyone else wants to try it. I bought a refurbished 500GB G-Technology G-Drive (with Firewire 800 and USB 3.0) on eBay for $40. I then replaced the 500GB mechanical drive with my 256GB SSD. I

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-06-02 Thread Eric Volker
I just wanted to make a final report on this experiment, in case anyone else wants to try it. I bought a refurbished 500GB G-Technology G-Drive (with Firewire 800 and USB 3.0) on eBay for $40. I then replaced the 500GB mechanical drive with my 256GB SSD. I’ll probably put the HDD in my PC laptop

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-25 Thread Eric Volker
J.C.- I found confirmation online that these Iomega Mac Companion drives will not boot over Firewire, just USB. It boots great off USB, so it’s not a problem with the system folder being blessed. Isn’t that from the MacOS 8/9 days? I haven’t blessed a folder in an eternity… I think I’m going t

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-24 Thread Myles MacVane
Eric, I have a March 2008 24" iMac. If you have not added more RAM to your standard 2007 iMac, you should. These days, 4 GB of RAM is the minimum you need. I believe that Apple says that you can safely put 4 GB (2 X 2GB) into your iMac. Mac Sales (www.macsales.com) claimed that you can put in 6 GB

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-24 Thread 375GTB .
IF it shows up on the desktop. But won't boot into Then the System Folder needs to be "Blessed" Look up how one does that Been years Your iOmega enclosure is FINE, trust me. They were bought out, did not go bust... iOmega was BAD, about 1990... After great success with the old Z

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-19 Thread Eric Volker
Yes, I see those negative reviews now. I used to have an Iomega MiniMax sometime in the distant past, and it booted fine off Firewire, so I assumed it’s successor would do the same. I’m still doing some research into possible solutions, but so far haven’t come up with anything other than resetti

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-18 Thread Robert MacLeay
I have seen this non-booting behavior with USB3 drives connected through a Thunderbolt connection to a Mac that does not support USB3 natively. They can be mounted through TB, but only after the machine has booted, making it impossible to boot off those drives. I suspect that (making the huge assu

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-18 Thread Eric Volker
Well I got the enclosure, but things didn’t go as planned. I got a deal on an enclosure that had once been an Iomega Mac Companion. I installed the SSD, hooked the enclosure up to my Firewire 800 port and it showed up on the desktop. I installed El Capitan and rebooted, but when the Mac rebooted

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-11 Thread Eric B . Volker
> On May 7, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Robert MacLeay wrote: > > I have done (am doing) this with a 2011 iMac. I have a Crucial 480GB SSD in > an ancient OWC FW800 drive case. > > Using the BlackMagic Speed Test on the two drives shows the internal disk is > 50% faster that the external SSD, but that d

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-08 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
Just that between the OS the machine shipped with and the final one which it will run before the publisher abandons support is a version with nice added features but which does not slow down the machine perceptibly. T The ability or lack of ability to turn off functions if you need more CPU cycles

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-08 Thread Bruce Rubin
W.Adrian D'Alessio, There may be some truth in what you write. Do you have any specific suggestions? On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 7:35 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > Bloatware is the number one way that computer OS publishers drive Hardware > system sales. > > So obvious and especially since they ha

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-08 Thread Bruce Rubin
W.Adrian D'Alessio, I don't remember asking a question. What question did I ask? TIA. On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 7:32 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > You say " it works well enough with whatever the latest and greatest OS X > is available." yet ignore that the hardware is obviously choking on it. >

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-08 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
Bloatware is the number one way that computer OS publishers drive Hardware system sales. So obvious and especially since they have been doing it for 30 years. A balanced system will always be the best user system. Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-08 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
You say " it works well enough with whatever the latest and greatest OS X is available." yet ignore that the hardware is obviously choking on it. " I have to admit that recently I've noticed that it isn't quite as responsive as it once was " You already answered your own question. Whether you hav

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-08 Thread Bruce Rubin
Eric, I have a iMac (24-inch Mid 2007) with 4GB of RAM that my wife doesn't like me to mess with since it works for her. So I can "play" a few years ago I purchased an enclosure from Other World Computing (https://www.macsales.com) with a multitude of ports including USB 2.0 & FW800 and a SSD to p

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-07 Thread Russell Courtenay
An interesting fact about broken iMacs: the 27" iMacs of around 2011 vintage have a nasty habit of bad connections to the graphics chip. If you don't mind the challenge of a full iMac tear down, you can find a 27" with bad graphics for under $300 and fix it with a $75 "reball" job (and of course

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-07 Thread Russell Courtenay
Great to hear. I guess my old iMac does have some upgrades possible! Russell Courtenay Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Robert MacLeay wrote: > > I have done (am doing) this with a 2011 iMac. I have a Crucial 480GB SSD in > an ancient OWC FW800 drive case. > > Using the Blac

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-07 Thread Robert MacLeay
I have done (am doing) this with a 2011 iMac. I have a Crucial 480GB SSD in an ancient OWC FW800 drive case. Using the BlackMagic Speed Test on the two drives shows the internal disk is 50% faster that the external SSD, but that does not show up in real-world responsiveness. No contest, really.

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-07 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
Cool tool Bruce ! uh, I should rephrase that ! 😯 Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer https://www.youtube.com/user/fluxstringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-07 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
Since Macs have always seemed attractive to graphics and video not having a way to upgrade GPU is very much a disadvantage. And no USB upgrades either is seriously short sighted. Yeah, I know 2007. Good tip on the diagrams. Apple did not do service techs any big favors with such a design either.

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-06 Thread Bruce Johnson
> On May 6, 2016, at 5:40 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > > I was not familiar with your model. I thought maybe it had a PCI slot behind > a trap door. No iMacs have ever had PCI slots. > If you have had it for a while I am rather surprised you do not have the > disassembly down to a fast r

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-06 Thread Russell Courtenay
Good points, all. Russell Courtenay Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Eric B. Volker wrote: > > >> On May 6, 2016, at 4:01 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio >> wrote: >> >> Maybe so, but ya gotta stay Flossy. >> >> I am not familiar with your model. But is a USB 3.0 connection just a

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-06 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
I was not familiar with your model. I thought maybe it had a PCI slot behind a trap door. If you have had it for a while I am rather surprised you do not have the disassembly down to a fast routine. My experience has been that if I was going to keep an old machine going I had to learn to work on i

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-06 Thread Eric B. Volker
> On May 6, 2016, at 4:01 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > > Maybe so, but ya gotta stay Flossy. > > I am not familiar with your model. But is a USB 3.0 connection just as viable > a swap? Seems USB 2 is plenty fast and comparable to FW800. > USB 3.0 enclosures might be less money. Especially

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-06 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
Maybe so, but ya gotta stay Flossy. I am not familiar with your model. But is a USB 3.0 connection just as viable a swap? Seems USB 2 is plenty fast and comparable to FW800. USB 3.0 enclosures might be less money. Especially on tigerdirect. Sometimes you might not be familiar with the name but y

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-06 Thread Eric B. Volker
Adrian, if I start listening to Fergie, does that mean Apple will hire me as an executive? But seriously, I would still need a Firewire 800 enclosure. If I go to a trusted source, like OWC, they cost $60 - $70 new. I’ve seen cheap ones on eBay for ~$30. Would it be safe to use a no-name brand

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-06 Thread N. Shani
Found recently https://fiplab.com/apps/memory-clean-for-mac that helps somewhat speeding my ancient MacBook (2006 Core2 Duo, 2 GB, SSD). Give it a try. It helps with all those web pages that hog the RAM like there is no tomorrow, and yes, closing unused tabs helps a LOT. On 6 May 2016 at 00:57, R

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-06 Thread Russell Courtenay
I have a 2008 20" iMac 2.66 Core2Duo with 2 GB of ram, a 3TB hard drive and 10.11.4 and sometimes it is dog slow. I can get 6 GB of ram used for about $70 on eBay and am thinking that might help. The modern Internet uses a phenomenal amount of resources just to view it. Firefox wants 1+ gig of

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-06 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
I fully agree on this. Latest and Greatest on a mismatched machine is " bloatest and slowest". Too much going on which you may not be able to turn off. Some code hacker might offer a disentangled version but then the Apple police would come and get you both. They don't want the FBI or you to mess w

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-06 Thread GMail Valter Psicof
Il giorno 06/05/16 09.40, "Eric B. Volker" ha scritto: > I do have 4GB. Swapping one of my 2GB SODIMMS for a 4GB to hit 6GB would cost > $80 - $100. That¹s too much to spend for an extra 2GB I have 4 GB too. I think that's adequate for most uses (I even run all Adobe CS3 apps together, and still

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-06 Thread Eric B. Volker
> On May 5, 2016, at 10:28 PM, GMail Valter Psicof > wrote: > > Il giorno 05/05/16 23.07, "Eric B. Volker" ha scritto: > >> I still get the beachball fairly often. > This sounds obvious but, how much Ram do you have? > If it's 2 GB or less, I strongly suggest to upgrade to 3 or - better - 4 GB

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-05 Thread GMail Valter Psicof
Il giorno 05/05/16 23.07, "Eric B. Volker" ha scritto: > I still get the beachball fairly often. This sounds obvious but, how much Ram do you have? If it's 2 GB or less, I strongly suggest to upgrade to 3 or - better - 4 GB. 2 GB are fairly cheap nowadays, and it's often the most "bang for your b

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-05 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
If it was me and I really needed a faster machine on a budget I would ask here on LEM for a nice G5 tower or intel Tower. Get a LED TV as monitor They are expandable. And upgrade able. Something iMacs never were really. I would not look back afterwards either. Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstring

Re: SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-05 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
If you keep bottle necks in a machine whatever improvements are at one end will never be entirely satisfactory. I do not know what you use your maching for. But if for graphics or video you are always better off with an expandable model with some fast card slots. If it is for some general light w

SSD over Firewire 800/400

2016-05-05 Thread Eric B. Volker
I’ve been looking for ways to improve the responsiveness of my old iMac (24” mid-2007). I’ve upgraded the hard drive already to a Samsung 5400RPM 2TB model, but I still get the beachball fairly often. I’m not complaining - it’s amazing that this thing can still run the latest OS. However, I woul