RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-02 Thread Dan Barker
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ted Galerneau Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team It's also possible that spammers will also create a new SPF

Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-02 Thread Darin Cox
to blacklist for a lot of us. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ted Galerneau Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team It's also possible

Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-02 Thread A. Clausen
- Original Message - From: x [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 21:49 Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Ted Galerneau wrote: Thanks Mr. X, it's looking better to me as time progresses and I may just go

RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-02 Thread Ted Galerneau
Snip our philosophy is better the devil you know than the devil you don't. Snip This is the only pro Imail argument that is making any business sense to me at this moment. I just wish I didn't have the sinking feeling that Ipswitch knows how much trouble it is to change mail servers, so they are

Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-02 Thread Scott Fisher
anti-virus renewals. This can range from $0 for ClamAV to $50 for F-Prot. AVG and Mcafee fall in the middle price-wise. - Original Message - From: Ted Galerneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 2:33 PM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from

RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-02 Thread Anton
In my opinion, the functionality and options of Declude surpasses any on the market hat I have researched. It does have updates but I think that any product that claims to effectively fight spam and Viruses will.. It is kind of the nature of the ever changing beast. In the end, My feeling is

Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-02 Thread Gil Gomes
We had LDAP blow up on us today. We called IPswitch support, they're located about 35 miles North of here, and were told that they would be available after 10:30... I'm sure there are many companies out there willing to put out $4,995 to obtain this level of support. We were able to

Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-02 Thread Bud Durland
Scott Fisher wrote: Does it need to be updated often... If a new vulnerability appears and there is a Declude fix, I would expect you'd want to update your Declude version... I don't think there's been too many fixes in the Declude updates; mostly new or enhanced features. I don't know as I

Re[4]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread David Sullivan
Hello bpollack, Saturday, October 30, 2004, 6:59:21 PM, you wrote: b Yes, but that includes a year of Symantec A/V for an unlimited number of b users. If you -want- Symantec, which is, after all, the market leader, it's Just because someone is the market leader doesn't mean they're the best:

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Aaron Clausen
-- Original Message -- From: Bruce Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:29:56 -0500 Until all of the in-fighting over SPF, CALLER-ID (microsuck's name for their re-worked and re-launched version of SPF) is resolved

Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: Aaron Clausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Until all of the in-fighting over SPF, CALLER-ID (microsuck's name for their re-worked and re-launched version of SPF) is resolved and universally adopted, the next best thing is CHALLENGE/RESPONSE. The infighting has

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Dan Barker
Yes, but there's 56 domains reporting Caller-ID. You can't count them outg. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Aaron Clausen Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 4:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from

Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread A. Clausen
- Original Message - From: Dan Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 14:35 Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Yes, but there's 56 domains reporting Caller-ID. You can't count them outg. All things

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Ted Galerneau
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Barker Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 2:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Yes, but there's 56 domains reporting Caller-ID. You can't count them outg. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Len Conrad
All things being equal, I'd say that SPF has become the defacto standard. not with less than 1 million SPF domains in many 10's of millions of domains. Len _ http://IMGate.MEIway.com : free anti-spam gateway, runs on 1000's of

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Ted Galerneau
to keep it that way. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Clausen Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 2:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team - Original Message - From

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Len Conrad
It's also possible that spammers will also create a new SPF of their own until they are caught them create another. However, unless I really don't understand the dynamics of it all, at least SPF has the promise of getting this spam issue under control a whole lot faster SPF is not anti-spam, it's

Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: A. Clausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, but there's 56 domains reporting Caller-ID. You can't count them outg. All things being equal, I'd say that SPF has become the defacto standard. Even if Microsoft manages to pull one off here (which I doubt, as I'm sure

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Bruce Barnes
: Monday, November 01, 2004 15:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team -- Original Message -- From: Bruce Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:29:56

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Bill Foresman
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team It's also possible that spammers will also create a new SPF of their own until they are caught them create another. However, unless I really don't understand the dynamics of it all, at least

Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread x
Len Conrad wrote: It's also possible that spammers will also create a new SPF of their own until they are caught them create another. However, unless I really don't understand the dynamics of it all, at least SPF has the promise of getting this spam issue under control a whole lot faster SPF is

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Ted Galerneau
[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team It's also possible that spammers will also create a new SPF of their own until they are caught them create another. However, unless I really don't understand the dynamics of it all, at least SPF has the promise of getting this spam

Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Bob McGregor
Bill says 'A lot of people have fallen victim to this same misguided belief in the past, and history has proven otherwise. In this instance, we shall see...' Here's one for you, HP discontinued a mid range platform(HP3000) in 2000 that many companies run their business with. They gave us

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Ted Galerneau
Of Bill Foresman Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team I think it's going to be a while for anyone to reject email based on SPF. Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosityhosting.com Office

Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: x [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's also possible that spammers will also create a new SPF of their own until they are caught them create another. However, unless I really don't understand the dynamics of it all, at least SPF has the promise of getting this spam

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread R. Scott Perry
I speculate a lot, I know. But my guess is that 90% of the 80% of our total emails which are spam come from forged addresses etc. Getting this up and running yesterday would have been a good thing as I see it. That's exactly why we added SPF support a year ago. :)

Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread A. Clausen
- Original Message - From: Bill Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 15:27 Subject: Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team - Original Message - From: A. Clausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, but there's

Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: Bob McGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] A lot of people have fallen victim to this same misguided belief in the past, and history has proven otherwise. In this instance, we shall see...' Here's one for you, HP discontinued a mid range platform(HP3000) in 2000

Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: A. Clausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] My feeling is that MS trying to push Sender ID through is just an example of closing the barn door after the cows have come home. A lot of people have fallen victim to this same misguided belief in the past, and

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Ted Galerneau
Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team I speculate a lot, I know. But my guess is that 90% of the 80% of our total emails which are spam come from forged addresses etc. Getting this up and running yesterday would have been a good thing as I see it. That's exactly why we added SPF

RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Ted Galerneau
structure as it is today. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 4:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team - Original Message - From: x

Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread A. Clausen
- Original Message - From: Bill Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 16:35 Subject: Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team - Original Message - From: A. Clausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] My feeling

Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: A. Clausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] My feeling is that MS trying to push Sender ID through is just an example of closing the barn door after the cows have come home. A lot of people have fallen victim to this same misguided belief in the

Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread x
Bill Landry wrote: - Original Message - From: x [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's also possible that spammers will also create a new SPF of their own until they are caught them create another. However, unless I really don't understand the dynamics of it all, at least SPF has the promise of getting

Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Darin Cox
: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:39 PM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team I think it's going to be a while for anyone to reject email based on SPF. Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosityhosting.com Office: (850) 656-2644 -Original Message

Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread x
apps better than linux itself does. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Len Conrad Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 3:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team It's also possible

RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Ted Galerneau
if I could ever feel confident about not being rooted by the bad guys. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of x Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread x
Ted Galerneau wrote: Thanks Mr. X, it's looking better to me as time progresses and I may just go for it and take the time to learn it! I was working on a control panel solution for Windows until now, and from what I hear there are tons of them for NIX many which are free. NIX could potentially

RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-11-01 Thread Ted Galerneau
the majority is going to do and way that in as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of x Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 9:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Ted Galerneau wrote: Thanks

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-31 Thread Bruce Barnes
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 22:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Bruce, please don't take offense...I think everyone is just trying to help, trying various tactics to get the point across. Challenge/Response (CR) results

RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-31 Thread Bruce Barnes
been an extremely trying week. Bruce Barnes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ted Galerneau Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 23:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Yes, I believe

RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team = C/R systems are bad

2004-10-31 Thread Markus Gufler
then blacklist us, please, because, with the exception of any correspondence via this list, we've never sent or received a message to or from your domain in more than 5 years - I just scanned 5 years worth of logs to verify that. no skin off my back. my customers want ZERO SPAM and

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-31 Thread Markus Gufler
Yes, but that includes a year of Symantec A/V for an unlimited number of users. If you -want- Symantec, which is, after all, the market leader, it's actually quite a good deal, as many users have already concluded. However, if you -don't- want Symantec bundled in, as it currently is in

RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-31 Thread R. Scott Perry
1. almost who is using Challenge/Response LOVED the service. They have the option, on a user-by-user basis, to turn it off. IMHO, it is a very GOOD thing and is overwhelmingly liked by the administrations of the three school systems I talked to. Yes, many of the people who *use* it like it.

Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-31 Thread Darin Cox
Sounds like someone was up late watching David EmailMan... Darin. - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 7:29 AM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team 1. almost who is using

Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-31 Thread FreeSoft interactive
I agree with you Scott, C/R is the most stupid invention we've ever seen at the opposite of what e-mail is! Laurent. - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:29 PM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from

Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-31 Thread Bud Durland
Bruce Barnes wrote: When you are faced with loosing a group of surgery centers that generates multi-thousands of dollars a year in revenue or finding a solution to the spam problem, it is no longer a difficult decision. Right up until you get listed as a spammer, and your users cannot send

Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-31 Thread x
30, 2004 9:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Are you speaking of Deersoft's mail server? Bruce Barnes wrote: If anyone would like to have a test mailbox setup to play with, please let me know and we will send you a username

RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-31 Thread Bruce Barnes
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Yes, I believe that is what he's talking about. That is one I haven't looked at just yet, hope we may not need to after tomorrow. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-31 Thread x
Bruce Barnes wrote: Not DEERSOFT, but DEERFIELD, ie: http://www.deerfield.com/products/categories.htm?cid=3 Gotcha, so it is Kerio I have seen mentioned here a few times. To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive:

RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-31 Thread Bruce Barnes
, 2004 12:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Bruce Barnes wrote: Not DEERSOFT, but DEERFIELD, ie: http://www.deerfield.com/products/categories.htm?cid=3 Gotcha, so it is Kerio I have seen mentioned here a few times. To Unsubscribe

RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-31 Thread Bruce Barnes
] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Bruce Barnes wrote: Not DEERSOFT, but DEERFIELD, ie: http://www.deerfield.com/products/categories.htm?cid=3 Gotcha, so it is Kerio I have seen mentioned here a few times. To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support

RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-31 Thread Ted Galerneau
] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Bruce Barnes wrote: Not DEERSOFT, but DEERFIELD, ie: http://www.deerfield.com/products/categories.htm?cid=3 Gotcha, so it is Kerio I have seen mentioned here a few times. To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List

RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-31 Thread Ted Galerneau
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Actually the product that we have been discussing is VisNetic Mail Server. The link that goes directly to the product is: http://www.deerfield.com/products/visnetic-mailserver/. -Original Message

Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Joe Hansen
Hello, Someone was asking for "Who will actually purchase ISC"? Apparently Steven loves ISC... http://www.biosmagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=1270

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Bill Foresman
HansenSent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 3:58 PMTo: Eric CoffmanSubject: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Hello, Someone was asking for "Who will actually purchase ISC"? Apparently Steven loves ISC... http://www.biosmagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=1270

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
] On Behalf Of Joe Hansen Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 12:58 PM To: Eric Coffman Subject: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Hello, Someone was asking for Who will actually purchase ISC? Apparently Steven loves ISC... http://www.biosmagazine.co.uk/article.php?id

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Bruce Barnes
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe HansenSent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 3:58 PMTo: Eric CoffmanSubject: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Hello, Someone was asking for "Who will actually purchase ISC"? Apparently Steven loves ISC...

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Bill Foresman
]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team are you stating that if you have domain X.Y.Z, domain W.X.Y, domain V.W.X, domain U.V.W and domain T.U.V and you decide to implement the collaborative features for domain W.X.Y that you cannot collaborate within the other

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
] On Behalf Of Joe Hansen Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 3:58 PM To: Eric Coffman Subject: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Hello, Someone was asking for Who will actually purchase ISC? Apparently Steven loves ISC... http://www.biosmagazine.co.uk/article.php?id

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Bill Foresman
30, 2004 4:32 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team The added features of ICS is primarily designed to be used by a company for its messaging/collaboration needs. It is not packaged with the ISP in mind

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Ted Galerneau
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team you guys know that the collaborative features only work for a single domain, right? Bill Foresman Matrosity Hosting www.matrosityhosting.com Office: (850) 656-2644 -Original

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Ted Galerneau
incident as I see it. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 1:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team The added features of ICS

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Bruce Barnes
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 15:32To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team The added features of ICS is primarily

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Ted Galerneau
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team So, if I understand the pricing correctly, from reviewing the charges on the Ipswitchweb site, they are effectively asking to pay the full freight for all of the modules even though we

Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Don Schreiner
of the SA will be after the first year? -Don - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:32 PM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team The added features of ICS

RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Bill
Corporate greed is evil, once it starts I it can spread like a cancer. For me, Monday's announcement is irrelevant. Ipswitch played their hand, and allowed us to see how they truly view their customer base. per David Karp: I encourage all of you to download and evaluate ICS. If it doesn't meet

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Ted Galerneau
the cost of the SA will be after the first year? -Don - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:32 PM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team The added features

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Peter With
will be after the first year? -Don - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:32 PM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team The added features of ICS is primarily

Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Don Schreiner
] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:02 PM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Don I don't think your software stops running when your SA expires. Peter - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - Peter With / JRS Judgments Collected (866) 404-1888 (866) 537

RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Ted Galerneau
:) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Corporate greed is evil, once it starts I it can spread like a cancer

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Title: Message Bruce wrote: In addition to everything we've looking for, it auto-verifies any incoming e-mail message the first time a message is received from a new e-mail address and forces the sender to click on a link in the verification message to validate they are a person and not

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Ted Galerneau
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter With Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Don I don't think your software stops running when your SA expires. Peter

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team We are running IMail 8 unlimited (upgrading since v4). Because we offer web hosting need unlimited version. Our SA is up for renewal next month. Looking at http://www.ipswitch.com/Purchase/products

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Ted Galerneau
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:02 PM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Don I don't think your software stops running when your SA expires. Peter - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - Peter With / JRS Judgments

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Ted Galerneau
(Lists) Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Bruce wrote: In addition to everything we've looking for, it auto-verifies any incoming e-mail message the first time a message is received from

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread bpollack
] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team SA for ISP version is listed to be $2295 per year. (Youch!) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum- [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Ted Galerneau
]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team SA for ISP version is listed to be $2295 per year. (Youch!) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bpollack Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Yes

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Galerneau Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 5:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Assuming you don't need unlimited licen$ing like we

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Bill Foresman
, 2004 7:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Yes, but that includes a year of Symantec A/V for an unlimited number of users. If you -want- Symantec, which is, after all, the market leader, it's actually quite a good deal, as many

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Bill Foresman
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 8:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team What, do we need a refresher course on the pricing? BTW, ISP version is unlimited users, just

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Bill Foresman
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bpollack Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Yes, but that includes a year of Symantec A/V

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Ted Galerneau
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bpollack Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Yes, but that includes a year of Symantec A/V for an unlimited number of users. If you -want- Symantec

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Ted Galerneau
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team What, do we need a refresher course on the pricing? BTW, ISP version is unlimited users, just without IM and WorkGroupShare. So of course, if you have Unlimited users Standard or Premium

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread t.blyth
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team What, do we need a refresher course on the pricing? BTW, ISP version is unlimited users, just without IM and WorkGroupShare. So of course, if you have Unlimited users Standard or Premium, the SA will be higher

Re: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Joshua Levitsky
t.blyth wrote: Has anyone got thoughts on using Microsoft Exchange ? I would be interested in comments. Exchange is far more complex than the other alternatives. Is it solid? yes. Does it have lots of good features? yes. You just have to be willing to read a few books and pay for it. My only

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Bruce Barnes
[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Bruce wrote: In addition to everything we've looking for, it auto-verifies any incoming e-mail message the first time a message is received from a new e-mail address and forces the sender to click on a link

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Bruce Barnes
attempting a non-secure connection. Bruce -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Bruce BarnesSent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 20:30To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Ted Galerneau
] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Has anyone got thoughts on using Microsoft Exchange ? I would be interested in comments. Thanks Terence Blyth -- Original Message -- From: Ted Galerneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread William Van Hefner
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Yes, but that includes a year of Symantec A/V for an unlimited number of users. If you -want- Symantec, which is, after all, the market leader, it's actually quite a good deal

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Ted Galerneau
Title: Message Perhaps I should retract my comment as well, sorry! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Barnes Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 6:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread William Van Hefner
://www.vantekcommunications.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Barnes Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 6:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team 1. almost who

Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Doug Anderson
Andeson - Original Message - From: bpollack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 6:59 PM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Yes, but that includes a year of Symantec A/V for an unlimited number of users

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread john cesta
Man I just don't have the time to write an entire treatise on the subject. iMAIL went from $1500 to $10k I simply cannot afford it anymore. I will use my 8.0 version until it dies. I am looking at Visnetic from deerfield.com but I don't foresee a conversion for a few years at least. John

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Ted Galerneau
:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Bill, Unlike a previous poster here, I am not going to beg you for anything. I will continue to use iMail only if it makes financial and technical sense for me to do so, AND if I see

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Ted Galerneau
, shame on you for shedding such a nasty light on Ipswitch! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john cesta Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:51 PM To: William Van Hefner Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Bruce Barnes
Barnes ChicagoNetTech Inc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William Van Hefner Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 21:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team Bruce, Clients may love

Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread Darin Cox
, as we're fighting a common foe. Darin. - Original Message - From: Bruce Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 11:06 PM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team then blacklist us, please, because

RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team

2004-10-30 Thread David Moore
: Saturday, October 30, 2004 5:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team What, do we need a refresher course on the pricing? BTW, ISP version is unlimited users, just without IM and WorkGroupShare. So of course, if you have Unlimited

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