RE: [IMail Forum] AOL Spam
I have a postmaster loopback, or at least I'm pretty sure I do (I've gone through the steps many times)? Todd -Original Message- From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Dave Marchette Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 2:34 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] AOL Spam Have AOL set you up with a postmaster loopback. You can then see the full headers of offending message(s). -Original Message- From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Todd Richards Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:27 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: [IMail Forum] AOL Spam Hi Everyone - One of our users is sending out correspondence with a group who he "thought" were still clients of his. One of them appears to think otherwise and is declaring his messages as spam. I got the friendly message from AOL as follows: This is an email abuse report for an email message with the message-id of rfq4sudhocnwtl9dqcmtntg2oti...@portable received from IP address 8.7.193.82 on Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:00:15 -0500 I understand that the message-ID will help you determine who the guilty party is. However, I don't see anything like that in our log files. Am I missing something? Thanks! Todd To Unsubscribe: http://imailserver.com/support/discussion_list/ List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://imailserver.com/support/kb.html To Unsubscribe: http://imailserver.com/support/discussion_list/ List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://imailserver.com/support/kb.html To Unsubscribe: http://imailserver.com/support/discussion_list/ List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://imailserver.com/support/kb.html
RE: [IMail Forum] AOL Spam
Have AOL set you up with a postmaster loopback. You can then see the full headers of offending message(s). -Original Message- From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Todd Richards Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:27 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: [IMail Forum] AOL Spam Hi Everyone - One of our users is sending out correspondence with a group who he "thought" were still clients of his. One of them appears to think otherwise and is declaring his messages as spam. I got the friendly message from AOL as follows: This is an email abuse report for an email message with the message-id of rfq4sudhocnwtl9dqcmtntg2oti...@portable received from IP address 8.7.193.82 on Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:00:15 -0500 I understand that the message-ID will help you determine who the guilty party is. However, I don't see anything like that in our log files. Am I missing something? Thanks! Todd To Unsubscribe: http://imailserver.com/support/discussion_list/ List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://imailserver.com/support/kb.html To Unsubscribe: http://imailserver.com/support/discussion_list/ List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://imailserver.com/support/kb.html
[IMail Forum] AOL Spam
Hi Everyone - One of our users is sending out correspondence with a group who he "thought" were still clients of his. One of them appears to think otherwise and is declaring his messages as spam. I got the friendly message from AOL as follows: This is an email abuse report for an email message with the message-id of rfq4sudhocnwtl9dqcmtntg2oti...@portable received from IP address 8.7.193.82 on Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:00:15 -0500 I understand that the message-ID will help you determine who the guilty party is. However, I don't see anything like that in our log files. Am I missing something? Thanks! Todd To Unsubscribe: http://imailserver.com/support/discussion_list/ List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://imailserver.com/support/kb.html
[IMail Forum] AOL Spam Lawsuit... the precedent that wasn't...
I got a clip today of an article at http://www.internetnews.com/IAR/article/0,,12_1003541,00.html In it, it describes AOL as claiming "victory" in a lawsuit against an adult entertainment company for spam sent by its affiliates and by the company itself . In it, the article explains that the parties settled on undisclosed terms, including damages and a prohibition against future unsolicited emails into AOL. Ironically, their AOL and their lawyers claim: "AOL Time Warner's (NYSE:AOL) America Online is claiming victory with a settlement in a lawsuit against accused spammer Netvision Audiotext [the company and] 40 of the company's affiliates similarly are enjoined from sending e-mail to AOL users through the settlement. ... ... In other words, while affiliates might send unsolicited bulk e-mail -- which include sign-up links for Netvision Audiotext's sites -- to America Online members, Netvision Audiotext itself might have little idea of how their subscriptions are being marketed. "Our complaint basically stated that Netvision conspired with these Webmasters to send junk e-mails to millions of America Online members," said AOL spokesman Nicholas Graham. "This settlement has now determined that an adult Website operator can be held responsible for negligence and the hiring and employment of Webmasters as a part of an affiliate program. This goes to the issue of holding those who incentivize the act of spamming accountable in court." "This is a landmark case, and we're very proud of our efforts in court. It's a valuable precedent for AOL and others in the industry, and spam is an industry-wide problem," Graham added. Unfortunately, this is neither a landmark case, nor a valuable precedent. It actually means nothing. Unless an issue is tried in the courts, a judge or jury reaches a decision and a judgment is entered, it means absolutely nothing. A settlement is just a contract to drop your action against someone in exchange for something. It has no "value" beyond that single settlement and is a precedent for nothing. Just thought it amusing that the lawyers for AOL forgot what they should have learned what they taught in the first week of law school and blew the opportunity to actually set a precedent. Ah... the good old days. Expensive lawyers at the big firms were always the easiest to beat... Chris Ulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
