Re: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available
I expected a lot more changes. It seems the competition is really taking advanatge of Ipswitch and the lack of effort to create a viable piece of software. We should have had full intergration with Outlook and it is my understanding we are now looking at version 12 having modules being added to intergrate with MS Outlook Richard H. Reynolds, PhD. Technology Consultant Botics Computer Consulting Services, Inc. P.O. Box 562153 Miami, Florida 33256-2153 Phone: 305.666.9553 Fax: 305.666.1979 Internet: www.botics.com - Original Message - From: Jason Henline To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:27 PM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available Hi Greg, No, we have not added that functionality to IMail v11 but it is something we're looking at for a later release. Jason H. From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Greg Taylor Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:46 AM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available Are we going to be able to accept meeting requests from outlook in the webmail client now? Jason Henline wrote: Hey folks, IMail v11 Technical Preview is now available. If you would like to participate, please visit http://www.imailserver.com/preview/ If you pre-registered, you should be receiving an email shortly with additional details. Thanks, Jason H. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the originator.
RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available
Hi Robert, That feature is coming soon, but will not be in v11.0. Jason H. From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:55 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available What about DKIM . I believe it was rumored for this version? Rob From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Bill Foresman Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:47 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available I've been waiting for version 11 out of beta so I can trust 10. Ipswitch has been awful at releasing software before it's actually ready. Sorry but that's the way ipswitch has been doing things over the past several years. Bill From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Jason Henline Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:56 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available Hi Travis, We've been running this on our mail server for a week and plan on putting it on a couple of other production machines this week. I'm not going to recommend that you install on a production box just yet. Please let us know if you run into any problems in your test environment. Jason H From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Travis Rabe Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:43 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available How Beta is it? Can we trust this somewhat? Not at all? Travis From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Jason Henline Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:32 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available Hey folks, IMail v11 Technical Preview is now available. If you would like to participate, please visit http://www.imailserver.com/preview/ If you pre-registered, you should be receiving an email shortly with additional details. Thanks, Jason H.
RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available
Hi Greg, No, we have not added that functionality to IMail v11 but it is something we're looking at for a later release. Jason H. From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Greg Taylor Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:46 AM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available Are we going to be able to accept meeting requests from outlook in the webmail client now? Jason Henline wrote: Hey folks, IMail v11 Technical Preview is now available. If you would like to participate, please visit http://www.imailserver.com/preview/ If you pre-registered, you should be receiving an email shortly with additional details. Thanks, Jason H. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the originator.
RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available
I am running 10.02 and it have not had a single problem. Not one. I have had a feature request to change the WGS interface, but that's it. -Original Message- From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Bill Foresman Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:01 AM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available We've got 3GB's in our mail server running 2003 32 bit version and it hardly uses even 1 GB of ram so our needs weren't as great as yours apparently. We also chose not to renew and watched release after release come out with more and more bugs. Like anyone else running a mail server it just can't be down especially when you upgrade. Yes, the recession is hurting everyone and it's more important than ever to watch the overhead. I was insulted by ipswitch's increase for SA's because there were no additional improvements in the service we were already paying for nor have there been any since. I prefer to do upgrades on weekends at like 4am but ipswitch isn't open so I had to risk being down until Monday morning which is the most important morning for email. Why have an SA if you've got imail stable and nothing new is worth the risk of upgrading? Look how much this list has trimmed down over the past few years? Is it because they've lost customers or because they want everyone in the forums? Who knows but them. I say go Smartermail and don't look back. Bill -Original Message- From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Barnes Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:40 AM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available Group; In the past the "final versions" of Imail have been riddled with problems, even after testing, release, and updates. Additionally, there were major problems with the fact that the newer versions, which were HTML based and required IIE to be installed on the hosting server, required full administrative privileges to properly run. This flies in the face of even the most basic security setup in that no program should ever run with the software installed in such a manner that the software has administrative, or requires administrative privileges, to properly operate. Finally, there were major issues with all versions of Imail running in 64 BIT operating systems. 64 bit operating systems take much more advantage of memory utilization - allowing installation of more than 4 gig of memory, and also allow for more efficient utilization of processors - including off-loading of task specific operations to individual processors within the server. Remember, if any of us are subject to PCI [CISP] credit card processing compliance scanning, the addition of an Imail server on which Imail is running with full administrative privileges, to our networks may very well cause us to be in non-compliance of the PCI requirements as every public IP address on any network that accepts credit cards is subject to full security scanning. This security scanning is intensive and typically done during the middle of the night because it can be disruptive to networks during peak periods. If ANY public facing IP address is found to be out of compliance, the merchant accepting credit cards is not certified and runs the risk of being able to accept credit card payments of any kind. Imail products need to run under a standard IIS installation - the same way my customer's secure websites run Because of the above listed items; and because of the lack of support for products released prior to this release; along with the escalating cost of the support contracts - raising more than 500% in a single year just 3 years ago, we opted to not renew our support contract this past year for a product that continues not to work properly in new technology environments. Quite simply, we made a significant investment in both Imail, operating system software, and server equipment, and Imail will not run properly in the 64 bit environment we chose to embrace. I would be interested in hearing from other members of this group regarding both IMail's pricing and support. I would also be interested in hearing from other members of this group regarding what server operating systems they have choosen: specifically whether they have embraced 64 bit technology. Additionally, I would be interested in hearing from both Imail sales and support regarding their movement towards both a better product and better support. Finally, I would remind Ipswitch that small companies like us, who have the majority of our clients in small businesses and not-for-profits, are being squeezed significantly from the financial side. We have lost almost 40% of our not-for-profit clients who's budgets have shrunk by more than 75%
RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available
We've got 3GB's in our mail server running 2003 32 bit version and it hardly uses even 1 GB of ram so our needs weren't as great as yours apparently. We also chose not to renew and watched release after release come out with more and more bugs. Like anyone else running a mail server it just can't be down especially when you upgrade. Yes, the recession is hurting everyone and it's more important than ever to watch the overhead. I was insulted by ipswitch's increase for SA's because there were no additional improvements in the service we were already paying for nor have there been any since. I prefer to do upgrades on weekends at like 4am but ipswitch isn't open so I had to risk being down until Monday morning which is the most important morning for email. Why have an SA if you've got imail stable and nothing new is worth the risk of upgrading? Look how much this list has trimmed down over the past few years? Is it because they've lost customers or because they want everyone in the forums? Who knows but them. I say go Smartermail and don't look back. Bill -Original Message- From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Barnes Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:40 AM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available Group; In the past the "final versions" of Imail have been riddled with problems, even after testing, release, and updates. Additionally, there were major problems with the fact that the newer versions, which were HTML based and required IIE to be installed on the hosting server, required full administrative privileges to properly run. This flies in the face of even the most basic security setup in that no program should ever run with the software installed in such a manner that the software has administrative, or requires administrative privileges, to properly operate. Finally, there were major issues with all versions of Imail running in 64 BIT operating systems. 64 bit operating systems take much more advantage of memory utilization - allowing installation of more than 4 gig of memory, and also allow for more efficient utilization of processors - including off-loading of task specific operations to individual processors within the server. Remember, if any of us are subject to PCI [CISP] credit card processing compliance scanning, the addition of an Imail server on which Imail is running with full administrative privileges, to our networks may very well cause us to be in non-compliance of the PCI requirements as every public IP address on any network that accepts credit cards is subject to full security scanning. This security scanning is intensive and typically done during the middle of the night because it can be disruptive to networks during peak periods. If ANY public facing IP address is found to be out of compliance, the merchant accepting credit cards is not certified and runs the risk of being able to accept credit card payments of any kind. Imail products need to run under a standard IIS installation - the same way my customer's secure websites run Because of the above listed items; and because of the lack of support for products released prior to this release; along with the escalating cost of the support contracts - raising more than 500% in a single year just 3 years ago, we opted to not renew our support contract this past year for a product that continues not to work properly in new technology environments. Quite simply, we made a significant investment in both Imail, operating system software, and server equipment, and Imail will not run properly in the 64 bit environment we chose to embrace. I would be interested in hearing from other members of this group regarding both IMail's pricing and support. I would also be interested in hearing from other members of this group regarding what server operating systems they have choosen: specifically whether they have embraced 64 bit technology. Additionally, I would be interested in hearing from both Imail sales and support regarding their movement towards both a better product and better support. Finally, I would remind Ipswitch that small companies like us, who have the majority of our clients in small businesses and not-for-profits, are being squeezed significantly from the financial side. We have lost almost 40% of our not-for-profit clients who's budgets have shrunk by more than 75% in the last 8 months. Because of the financial squeeze the small businesses and not-for-profits have dropped their web hosting, dropped their e-mail, and, in most cases, cut their staff significantly. I used to be an avid supporter of Ipswitch and Imail. Now, as I keep asking for answers I hear a deafening silence. Ipswitch, please respond to the group. I don't need any more marketing schmoozing, and I don't n
RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available
Group; In the past the "final versions" of Imail have been riddled with problems, even after testing, release, and updates. Additionally, there were major problems with the fact that the newer versions, which were HTML based and required IIE to be installed on the hosting server, required full administrative privileges to properly run. This flies in the face of even the most basic security setup in that no program should ever run with the software installed in such a manner that the software has administrative, or requires administrative privileges, to properly operate. Finally, there were major issues with all versions of Imail running in 64 BIT operating systems. 64 bit operating systems take much more advantage of memory utilization - allowing installation of more than 4 gig of memory, and also allow for more efficient utilization of processors - including off-loading of task specific operations to individual processors within the server. Remember, if any of us are subject to PCI [CISP] credit card processing compliance scanning, the addition of an Imail server on which Imail is running with full administrative privileges, to our networks may very well cause us to be in non-compliance of the PCI requirements as every public IP address on any network that accepts credit cards is subject to full security scanning. This security scanning is intensive and typically done during the middle of the night because it can be disruptive to networks during peak periods. If ANY public facing IP address is found to be out of compliance, the merchant accepting credit cards is not certified and runs the risk of being able to accept credit card payments of any kind. Imail products need to run under a standard IIS installation - the same way my customer's secure websites run Because of the above listed items; and because of the lack of support for products released prior to this release; along with the escalating cost of the support contracts - raising more than 500% in a single year just 3 years ago, we opted to not renew our support contract this past year for a product that continues not to work properly in new technology environments. Quite simply, we made a significant investment in both Imail, operating system software, and server equipment, and Imail will not run properly in the 64 bit environment we chose to embrace. I would be interested in hearing from other members of this group regarding both IMail's pricing and support. I would also be interested in hearing from other members of this group regarding what server operating systems they have choosen: specifically whether they have embraced 64 bit technology. Additionally, I would be interested in hearing from both Imail sales and support regarding their movement towards both a better product and better support. Finally, I would remind Ipswitch that small companies like us, who have the majority of our clients in small businesses and not-for-profits, are being squeezed significantly from the financial side. We have lost almost 40% of our not-for-profit clients who's budgets have shrunk by more than 75% in the last 8 months. Because of the financial squeeze the small businesses and not-for-profits have dropped their web hosting, dropped their e-mail, and, in most cases, cut their staff significantly. I used to be an avid supporter of Ipswitch and Imail. Now, as I keep asking for answers I hear a deafening silence. Ipswitch, please respond to the group. I don't need any more marketing schmoozing, and I don't need any more excuses. If we, those of us who have chosen not to renew our Imail support contracts, are to even begin to consider reinstating our support contract and moving to Imail version 11, we need a product which will both support the 64 bit operating systems and properly install and run without having to run under full administrative privileges. Bruce Barnes ChicagoNetTech Inc Chicago IL From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Greg Taylor Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 06:46 To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available Are we going to be able to accept meeting requests from outlook in the webmail client now? Jason Henline wrote: Hey folks, IMail v11 Technical Preview is now available. If you would like to participate, please visit http://www.imailserver.com/preview/ If you pre-registered, you should be receiving an email shortly with additional details. Thanks, Jason H. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the originator. To Unsubscr
Re: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available
Are we going to be able to accept meeting requests from outlook in the webmail client now? Jason Henline wrote: Hey folks, IMail v11 Technical Preview is now available. If you would like to participate, please visit http://www.imailserver.com/preview/ If you pre-registered, you should be receiving an email shortly with additional details. Thanks, Jason H. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the originator.
RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available
I do see Push will be in the version - YEAH!!! From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:55 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available What about DKIM . I believe it was rumored for this version? Rob From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Bill Foresman Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:47 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available I've been waiting for version 11 out of beta so I can trust 10. Ipswitch has been awful at releasing software before it's actually ready. Sorry but that's the way ipswitch has been doing things over the past several years. Bill From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Jason Henline Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:56 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available Hi Travis, We've been running this on our mail server for a week and plan on putting it on a couple of other production machines this week. I'm not going to recommend that you install on a production box just yet. Please let us know if you run into any problems in your test environment. Jason H From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Travis Rabe Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:43 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available How Beta is it? Can we trust this somewhat? Not at all? Travis From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Jason Henline Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:32 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available Hey folks, IMail v11 Technical Preview is now available. If you would like to participate, please visit http://www.imailserver.com/preview/ If you pre-registered, you should be receiving an email shortly with additional details. Thanks, Jason H.
RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available
What about DKIM . I believe it was rumored for this version? Rob From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Bill Foresman Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:47 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available I've been waiting for version 11 out of beta so I can trust 10. Ipswitch has been awful at releasing software before it's actually ready. Sorry but that's the way ipswitch has been doing things over the past several years. Bill From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Jason Henline Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:56 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available Hi Travis, We've been running this on our mail server for a week and plan on putting it on a couple of other production machines this week. I'm not going to recommend that you install on a production box just yet. Please let us know if you run into any problems in your test environment. Jason H From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Travis Rabe Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:43 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available How Beta is it? Can we trust this somewhat? Not at all? Travis From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Jason Henline Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:32 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available Hey folks, IMail v11 Technical Preview is now available. If you would like to participate, please visit http://www.imailserver.com/preview/ If you pre-registered, you should be receiving an email shortly with additional details. Thanks, Jason H.
RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available
I've been waiting for version 11 out of beta so I can trust 10. Ipswitch has been awful at releasing software before it's actually ready. Sorry but that's the way ipswitch has been doing things over the past several years. Bill From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Jason Henline Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:56 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available Hi Travis, We've been running this on our mail server for a week and plan on putting it on a couple of other production machines this week. I'm not going to recommend that you install on a production box just yet. Please let us know if you run into any problems in your test environment. Jason H From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Travis Rabe Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:43 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available How Beta is it? Can we trust this somewhat? Not at all? Travis From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Jason Henline Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:32 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available Hey folks, IMail v11 Technical Preview is now available. If you would like to participate, please visit http://www.imailserver.com/preview/ If you pre-registered, you should be receiving an email shortly with additional details. Thanks, Jason H.
RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available
Hi Travis, We've been running this on our mail server for a week and plan on putting it on a couple of other production machines this week. I'm not going to recommend that you install on a production box just yet. Please let us know if you run into any problems in your test environment. Jason H From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Travis Rabe Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:43 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available How Beta is it? Can we trust this somewhat? Not at all? Travis From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Jason Henline Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:32 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available Hey folks, IMail v11 Technical Preview is now available. If you would like to participate, please visit http://www.imailserver.com/preview/ If you pre-registered, you should be receiving an email shortly with additional details. Thanks, Jason H.
RE: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available
How Beta is it? Can we trust this somewhat? Not at all? Travis From: imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com [mailto:imail_forum-ow...@list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Jason Henline Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:32 PM To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: [IMail Forum] IMail v11 Technical Preview now available Hey folks, IMail v11 Technical Preview is now available. If you would like to participate, please visit http://www.imailserver.com/preview/ If you pre-registered, you should be receiving an email shortly with additional details. Thanks, Jason H.
