Dear HS You are a scientist and a good botanist at that... so what difference does it make what the local colloquial names are, except that often it creates a confusion... until scientists are called in... the binomial (often) saves the day and ID...
Colloquial names are mostly given by tribals, villagers and lay people (in town its usually a reporter or in case of Bengal I know Rabindranath gave names to many of our trees, often they are apt, but just as often they are flights of fancy... or poetic licenses are taken... ) and that's why there such a bewildering plethora of names... when I first started studying Ayurvedic medicine... I was making a transition from a hardcore scientist to this mysterious world of hundreds of different names for the same plant or same colloqiual name used for different plants... I used to get upset at this seeming stupidity... until I realized that the different names were given by different peoples indifferent regions or different generations in the same regions, but it ususally was identified by a scientist and a binomial was available to at least start a scientific study... SO it does not matter if some tree is called flame of the forest or fire of the forest or some such thing... I know a mexican village group that calls a groups of ants whose bite burn to hell as "fire of the forest" since they climb trees and fall on the humans who venture into the forest... all it does is describes their experience... may be we can write up the stories about the colloqiual names given to a tree ... or those ants for that matter... so let it be, and lets enjoy the show at eflora... enjoy.... Usha di ==== On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: > All three as I have idicated above > > Delonix regia > Butea moospermna > Spathodea camnpaulata > > http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?8177 > > http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?13400 > > http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?35209 > > http://www.floridata.com/ref/s/spat_cam.cfm > > > http://lee.ifas.ufl.edu/Hort/GardenPubsAZ/SpathodeaCampanulataafricantuliptree.pdf > > Please note that Delonix regia and Spathodea campanulata are Trpocal > frican trees and not Indian native trees, so there is no reason to stress > that they can't be called as Flame of the Forest trees. They are as > important for these countries as Butea monosperma is for us. > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 7:01 PM, H S <hemsan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Even i guess Flame of the forest is Butea monosperma and not Delonix >> regia (Fire of the forest).. >> >> Spathpdea refers as Bell flowers >> >> regards, >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 6:20 PM, ushadi Micromini < >> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> That's why binomial names are soooooo important.... >>> >>> usha di >>> ======== >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Promila ji >>>> There are three trees with the same common name *flame-of-the-forest* >>>> >>>> Delonix regia >>>> Butea monosperma >>>> Spathodea campanulata >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 5:58 PM, promila chaturvedi < >>>> thegardener.chaturv...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think Palash-Butea monosperma is known as flame-of Forest. May be I >>>>> am wrong. >>>>> Promila >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Balkar Singh <balkara...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Complete set of Pics Sir >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > Gurcharan ji, >>>>>> > very beautiful flowers. The best I have seen so far. I do not know >>>>>> the tree >>>>>> > that I have gets flowers which have a orange shade . I like more >>>>>> the ones >>>>>> > you have posted bright red. Thanks for sharing >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:24 AM, H S <hemsan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> nice pics,, >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Ushadi micromini >>>>>> >> <microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> very nice >>>>>> >>> usha di >>>>>> >>> ====== >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> On Dec 9, 7:56 am, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>> > *Delonix regia* (Bojer) Raf., Fl. tellur. 2:92. 1837 >>>>>> >>> > syn: *Poinciana regia* Bojer >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > Common names:flamboyant, flame-of-the-forest, flametree, >>>>>> >>> > peacock-flower, royal >>>>>> >>> > poinciana >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > Large deciduous tree to 20 m with bipinnate up to 55 cm long >>>>>> leaves; >>>>>> >>> > pinnae >>>>>> >>> > 12-20 pair, leaflets 20-30 pairs, up to 10 mm long, oblong; >>>>>> stipules >>>>>> >>> > pinnate compound; flowers bright red, up to 10 cm across, in >>>>>> racemes; >>>>>> >>> > pod >>>>>> >>> > up to 50 cm long, 5 cm broad, thick, compressed >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > Coomon avenue tree in Delhi, Photographed from Vikas Puri and DU >>>>>> >>> > Campus. >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > -- >>>>>> >>> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> >>> > Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> >>> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> >>> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> >>> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > Delonix-regia-AK-Delhi-1.jpg >>>>>> >>> > 530KViewDownload >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > Delonix-regia-AK-Delhi-2.jpg >>>>>> >>> > 421KViewDownload >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > Delonix-regia-Delhi-1.jpg >>>>>> >>> > 367KViewDownload >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > Delonix-regia-Delhi-2.jpg >>>>>> >>> > 175KViewDownload >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > Delonix-regia-Delhi-3.jpg >>>>>> >>> > 191KViewDownload >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > Delonix-regia-Delhi-a.jpg >>>>>> >>> > 70KViewDownload >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> > Delonix-regia-fruit2.jpg >>>>>> >>> > 448KViewDownload >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> -- >>>>>> >> - H.S. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere >>>>>> heart of >>>>>> >> stone >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > Regards >>>>>> > Dr.Bhagyashri Ranade >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>>> 09416262964 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> - H.S. >> >> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart >> of stone >> >> > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > >
