Madam, I admit that i acted like a fool. But this identification science is new to me and having a degree in Bio-science doesn't help me to ID anything to the slightest degree. Moreover, I was/am an average student, a slow learner. It takes me much time to gather all data and find a relation between the each collected bit.
Yes, Madam, i was familiar with 'Kalmi saag' but that was on the lunch table! As for the daily bazaar, my brother takes care of that! Regards, Surajit On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Ushadi micromini < microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Surajit : > > nice logical steps... but wrong... since you might be very familiar with > Kalmi saag.... did you never doubt your own analysis??? ... esp that of > the stem.... and its presence or absence of hollow tube like nature of the > stem... and the shape etc of the leaf, even before on analyses the > flower???? > > > Kalmi saag is Ipomea aquatica, as far as I know... > Correct me if that is not so... > Usha di > -= > > On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 8:58:50 PM UTC+5:30, surajit koley wrote: >> >> Dear Friends, >> >> I have a confession : In my earlier post (https://groups.google.com/** >> forum/?fromgroups#!topic/**indiantreepix/AhKBuSzkA5U<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21topic/indiantreepix/AhKBuSzkA5U>) >> seeking the ID of this plant i failed to elaborate on the habit & habitat >> of this plant. Because i didn't have any photo of the leaves or stem at >> that time. Neither did i observe it carefully. >> >> So, i hereby apologize to Mani Sir for making an inadvertent >> inconvenience to him. >> >> Regards, >> >> Surajit Koley >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:41 PM, surajit koley < >> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com**> wrote: >> >>> Extremely sorry Sir for my misspelling in my earlier reply post. I >>> wanted to say - >>> >>> Thank you Sir. It's all because of this great 'efloraofindia' group with >>> all its nicest persons. My perception of the flora world completely changed >>> overnight. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Surajit >>> >>> On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 08:46:00 UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh wrote: >>>> >>>> Great observations and analysis Surajit ji >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.**com**/ <http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/> >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg**45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:34 AM, surajit koley < >>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com****> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good morning Sir. Thank you for the ID. >>>>> Have a nice day. >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Surajit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Dinesh Valke >>>>> <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ... *Ipomoea marginata* (Desr.) Verdc. >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:25 PM, surajit koley (Google Docs) < >>>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com****> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've shared Convolvulaceae Week: Ipomoea sp. from Hooghly >>>>>>> (WB)<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EAjHfDBZ2U0SLmIzwZaqBd1wuiqTs9qkNuc9T_xqwWk/edit> >>>>>>> Click to open: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Convolvulaceae Week: Ipomoea sp. from Hooghly >>>>>>> (WB)<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EAjHfDBZ2U0SLmIzwZaqBd1wuiqTs9qkNuc9T_xqwWk/edit> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sir, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I thought it was some other species, not an Ipomoea aquatica. The >>>>>>> reasoning behind my anticipation was - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a) It is a twining climber found on roadside having ditches beside >>>>>>> it. But a point to be noted is that those ditches are entirely dry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> b) The leaf blade is significantly broader and there is variation >>>>>>> in blade-shapes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> c) Stem is narrower and hairy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> d) Stamens protrude outside of the corolla >>>>>>> >>>>>>> e) Anthers are purple >>>>>>> >>>>>>> f) Flowers are a tad smaller and appearance of the flower is a bit >>>>>>> pentagonal than a perfect round shape >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Having been suggested by Mani Sir i too think now that it is also a >>>>>>> Ipomoea >>>>>>> aquatica, maybe slightly modified due to terrestrial adaptation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yet a google search leads me to the following websites that contain >>>>>>> similar leaves and flowers with very minute variations. Of-course wiki >>>>>>> says >>>>>>> that this plant is from North America! :- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>> http://www.discoverlife.org/**mp**/20q?search=Ipomoea+**pandurata<http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20q?search=Ipomoea+pandurata> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. http://florapittsburghensis.**wo**rdpress.com/2010/07/25/wild-** >>>>>>> po**tato-vine-ipomoea-pandurata/<http://florapittsburghensis.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/wild-potato-vine-ipomoea-pandurata/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. >>>>>>> http://www.**arbolesornamentales**.es/**Ipomoea.htm<http://www.arbolesornamentales.es/Ipomoea.htm> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Species : Ipomoea sp. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Habit : wild twiner with hairy stem >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Habitat : roadside >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Date : 07-Mar-2012, 12-Mar-2012 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Place : Gobra (Hooghly), West Bengal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (images 800x600 each) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> flower close-up >>>>>>> >>>>>>> flowers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> underside view of a flower >>>>>>> >>>>>>> flower & a leaf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> narrow hairy stem >>>>>>> >>>>>>> roadside vegetation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wild twiner >>>>>>> >>>>>>> purple anthers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------ END ---------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online >>>>>>> documents, spreadsheets and presentations. >>>>>>> [image: Logo for Google Docs] <https://docs.google.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> > On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 8:58:50 PM UTC+5:30, surajit koley wrote: >> >> Dear Friends, >> >> I have a confession : In my earlier post (https://groups.google.com/** >> forum/?fromgroups#!topic/**indiantreepix/AhKBuSzkA5U<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21topic/indiantreepix/AhKBuSzkA5U>) >> seeking the ID of this plant i failed to elaborate on the habit & habitat >> of this plant. Because i didn't have any photo of the leaves or stem at >> that time. Neither did i observe it carefully. >> >> So, i hereby apologize to Mani Sir for making an inadvertent >> inconvenience to him. >> >> Regards, >> >> Surajit Koley >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:41 PM, surajit koley < >> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com**> wrote: >> >>> Extremely sorry Sir for my misspelling in my earlier reply post. I >>> wanted to say - >>> >>> Thank you Sir. It's all because of this great 'efloraofindia' group with >>> all its nicest persons. My perception of the flora world completely changed >>> overnight. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Surajit >>> >>> On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 08:46:00 UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh wrote: >>>> >>>> Great observations and analysis Surajit ji >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.**com**/ <http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/> >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg**45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:34 AM, surajit koley < >>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com****> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good morning Sir. Thank you for the ID. >>>>> Have a nice day. >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Surajit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Dinesh Valke >>>>> <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ... *Ipomoea marginata* (Desr.) Verdc. >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:25 PM, surajit koley (Google Docs) < >>>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com****> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've shared Convolvulaceae Week: Ipomoea sp. from Hooghly >>>>>>> (WB)<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EAjHfDBZ2U0SLmIzwZaqBd1wuiqTs9qkNuc9T_xqwWk/edit> >>>>>>> Click to open: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Convolvulaceae Week: Ipomoea sp. from Hooghly >>>>>>> (WB)<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EAjHfDBZ2U0SLmIzwZaqBd1wuiqTs9qkNuc9T_xqwWk/edit> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sir, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I thought it was some other species, not an Ipomoea aquatica. The >>>>>>> reasoning behind my anticipation was - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a) It is a twining climber found on roadside having ditches beside >>>>>>> it. But a point to be noted is that those ditches are entirely dry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> b) The leaf blade is significantly broader and there is variation >>>>>>> in blade-shapes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> c) Stem is narrower and hairy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> d) Stamens protrude outside of the corolla >>>>>>> >>>>>>> e) Anthers are purple >>>>>>> >>>>>>> f) Flowers are a tad smaller and appearance of the flower is a bit >>>>>>> pentagonal than a perfect round shape >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Having been suggested by Mani Sir i too think now that it is also a >>>>>>> Ipomoea >>>>>>> aquatica, maybe slightly modified due to terrestrial adaptation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yet a google search leads me to the following websites that contain >>>>>>> similar leaves and flowers with very minute variations. Of-course wiki >>>>>>> says >>>>>>> that this plant is from North America! :- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>> http://www.discoverlife.org/**mp**/20q?search=Ipomoea+**pandurata<http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20q?search=Ipomoea+pandurata> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. http://florapittsburghensis.**wo**rdpress.com/2010/07/25/wild-** >>>>>>> po**tato-vine-ipomoea-pandurata/<http://florapittsburghensis.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/wild-potato-vine-ipomoea-pandurata/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. >>>>>>> http://www.**arbolesornamentales**.es/**Ipomoea.htm<http://www.arbolesornamentales.es/Ipomoea.htm> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Species : Ipomoea sp. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Habit : wild twiner with hairy stem >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Habitat : roadside >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Date : 07-Mar-2012, 12-Mar-2012 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Place : Gobra (Hooghly), West Bengal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (images 800x600 each) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> flower close-up >>>>>>> >>>>>>> flowers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> underside view of a flower >>>>>>> >>>>>>> flower & a leaf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> narrow hairy stem >>>>>>> >>>>>>> roadside vegetation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wild twiner >>>>>>> >>>>>>> purple anthers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------ END ---------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online >>>>>>> documents, spreadsheets and presentations. >>>>>>> [image: Logo for Google Docs] <https://docs.google.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>
