The Plant List Ver. 1.1 gives *Crateva tapia *L. <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2742390> & *Crateva adansonii *subsp. *odora* (Buch.-Ham.) Jacobs <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2742339> accepted name while *Crateva* *magna* (Lour.) DC. is a synonym <http://www.theplantlist.org/1.1/about/#synonym> of *Crateva religiosa * G.Forst. <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2742384> But here underlined data is based on WCSP (in review) <http://www.theplantlist.org/1.1/about/#wcsir>, which is under review.
While Catalogue of Life (updated in 2016) gives details as below with distribution: *Crateva tapia * L. <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/2238b8b46b85d214b3ddd6cd0145a0fb> (no distribution in India) *Crateva adansonii * subsp*.* *odora* (Buch.-Ham.) Jacobs <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/45b679983902be136d343779d1bfb2f9> India (widespread), Jammu & Kashmir (Kashmir, Jammu) *Crateva magna * (Lour.) DC. <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/2f24d374af8879d3298eb3153bd2ebe5> India (peninsular India, Western India, Gangetic Plains, Eastern India to Tripura, Manipur), *Crateva religiosa *Forst. fil. <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/974d15ce2fd961296f6df8cc609a7ca8> India (Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh, Assam), This [Catalogue of Life (updated in 2016)] broadly matches with BSI (eFlora of India) with details & *keys* <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=3379&type=3> (Distribution) as below: *Crateva adansonii <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=3384&type=4>* DC. subsp. *odora* (Buch.- Ham.) Jacobs (India: In open forests or scrub jungles, from sea level to 750 m. Throughout India (except in the humid hill states of N.E. India and Kashmir); Pakistan, Myanmar and Sri Lanka) *Crateva magna <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=3389&type=4>* (Lour.) DC. (India: In deciduous or semievergreen forests, along streams, up to 1000 m. Peninsular India, Western India, Gangetic Plains and Eastern India up to Tripura and Manipur; Bangladesh, Myanmar, China and Sri Lanka, extending to Malaysia and Indonesia.) *Crateva religiosa <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=3392&type=4>* Forster f. (India: Infrequent in subtropical evergreen forests, up to 1000 m. Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh, Assam and Andaman & Nicobar Islands; Nepal, Bhutan, Myanmar, Indo-China and Thailand, extending to S.E. Asia, up to Philippines) Further Flora of Eastern Ghats: Hill Ranges of South East India, Volume 1 <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA71&dq=Crateva+++%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=A0AwUtnVD86YlQWpwYDADw&ved=0CEcQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=Crateva%20%20%20%2B%20india&f=false> By T. Pullaiah, D. Muralidhara Rao, K. Sri Ramamurthy (2002- Description & Keys) gives as below- *Crateva adansonii *subsp*.** odora **(*Buch.-Ham.) Jacobs (syn. *Crateva* *odora* Buch.-Ham., *Crateva* *religiosa* var. *roxburghii*, *Crateva* *religiosa* sensu Dunn) & *Crateva magna* (Lour.) DC. (syn. *Capparis magma* Lour., *Crateva nurvala* Buch.-Ham., *Crateva* *religiosa* var. *nurvula* (Buch.-Ham.) Hook. f. & Thomson, *Crateva* *religiosa* sensu Dunn) And Flora of Davanagere District, Karnataka, India <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=cXD2eUj3dzcC&pg=PA49&dq=Crateva+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6_3qVOiBFYuwuAS52YGwDg&ved=0CEAQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Crateva%20%2B%20india&f=false> By B. K. Manjunatha, V. Krishna, T. Pullaiah (2004) gives details as below- *Crateva magna* (Lour.) DC. (syn. *Capparis magma* Lour., *Crateva nurvala* Buch.-Ham., *Crateva* *religiosa* var. *nurvula* (Buch.-Ham.) Hook. f. & Thomson) And From Floral Database of Tamilnadu <http://www.tnenvis.nic.in/tnenvis_old/database_bio.htm> : Binomial Habit Notes References Distribution *Crateva adansonii *DC. subsp.* odora* (Buch. - Ham.) Jacobs Small Tree Plains, Dry Localities Flora of Tamil Nadu, VOL. I, 1983; Matthew, 1983 All districts *Crateva magna *(Lour.) DC. Medium sized Tree Western Ghats , Moist Deciduous Forests Flora of Tamil Nadu, VOL. I, 1983 Nilgiri, Tiruvannamalai In view, I am inclined to take *Crateva adansonii* <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=3384&type=4> DC. subsp. *odora* (Buch.- Ham.) Jacobs (considering postings of Crataeva tapia on efi to be this species) & *Crateva magna* <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=3389&type=4> (Lour.) DC. as the two species from Maharastra. On 6 October 2016 at 17:14, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Shrikant Ingalhalikar <shrikant.ingalhali...@gmail.com> > Date: 6 October 2016 at 16:07 > Subject: Re: Fwd: Are Crateva adansonii ssp. odora (Buch.-Ham.) Jacobs & > Crataeva tapia L. same ? > To: "J. M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> > > > Suggest to follow the plant list of Kew, it has much fewer confusions. > Regards > On 6 Oct 2016 14:26, "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks, Shrikant ji. >> >> On 6 October 2016 at 14:24, Shrikant Ingalhalikar < >> shrikant.ingalhali...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It is a matter of priority of names, the plants don't change. You have >>> to choose the school of thought, BSI or others...if you follow both then >>> this is not the only confusion, there will be hundreds of them. >>> Regards >>> On 6 Oct 2016 11:42, "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Shrikant ji, >>>> May I have your views on this thread. >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: 30 September 2016 at 13:48 >>>> Subject: Are Crateva adansonii ssp. odora (Buch.-Ham.) Jacobs & >>>> Crataeva tapia L. same ? >>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear members, >>>> There has been a lot of confusion w.r.t. the numerous postings in >>>> efloraofindia. >>>> One issue is that are Crateva adansonii ssp. odora (Buch.-Ham.) Jacobs >>>> & Crataeva tapia L. same ? >>>> >>>> *A. *As per efi thread >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/Kf2z4rl0HQ4>: >>>> Satish Pardeshi ji has stated as below: >>>> >>>> According to my obeservation and *reference from Almeida, Fl of >>>> Maharashtra *the following can be described as >>>> 1. Leaves ovate-lanceolate; Berry ovoid >>>> *C. magna* >>>> 1. Leaves ovate or obovate, not lanceolate; Berry globose >>>> *C. tapia * >>>> *Crataeva magna* (Lour.) DC., Prodr. 1: 243, 1824; Sharma et al, Fl. >>>> India 2: 324, 1993; Pradhan et al, Fl. SGNP 98, 2005. >>>> Synonyms: *Capparis magna* Lour. Fl. Cochinch. 1: 331, 1790. *Crateva >>>> odora* Buch.-Ham., Trans. L. Soc. 15: 118, 1827. *Crateva tapia* L., >>>> ssp. *odora* (Jacob.) Almeida, Fl. Savantwadi 44, 1990 & in Fl, Mah. >>>> 1: 51, 1996. Crateva odora Buch.-Ham., Trans. L. Soc. 15: 118, 1827. >>>> *Crateva >>>> religiosa* var. *nurvala* Hook f., Fl. Brit. India 1: 172, 1872; >>>> Cooke, Fl. Pres. Bombay 1: 44, 1958 (Repr.). *Crataeva nurvala* Ham. >>>> in Trans. L. Soc. 15: 121, 1827. *C. roxburghii* sensu Graham, Cat. >>>> Bombay Pl. 8, 1839. (non Br., 1826). >>>> Common name: *Sacred barna, Three leaves caper, Vai-varna, Wairoda, >>>> Nirvala. * >>>> >>>> *Crataeva tapia* L., Sp. Pl. 1753; Almeida, Fl. Mah. 1: 51, 1996. >>>> Synonyms: *Crateva adansonii ssp. odora (Buch.-Ham.) Jacobs *in Blumea >>>> 12: 198, 1964; Singh et al, Fl. Mah. St. 1: 223, 2000; Pradhan et al, Fl. >>>> SGNP 98, 2005. *Crataeva religiosa* Forst. var. *religiosa* (R. Br.) >>>> sensu Hook f. & Thoms., Fl. Brit. India 1: 172, 1872. *C. religiosa* >>>> var. *roxburghii* Cooke, Fl. Pres. Bombay 1: 44, 1958 (Repr.); Hook. >>>> f., Fl. Brit. India 1: 172, 1872. *Crataeva religiosa* Forst.f., >>>> Prodr. 35, 1786. >>>> >>>> *As per this both appears to be same.* >>>> >>>> >>>> *B.* From efi thread >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Crateva$20AND$20adansonii$20AND$20subsp.$20AND$20odora$20AND$20$2B$20AND$20crateva$20AND$20religiosa/indiantreepix/zh3Olhdxtag>: >>>> Neil ji states that *Crataeva nurvala* [*C.religosa*] is an African >>>> species that is not [naturally] found in India. >>>> The common species of Sacred Barna [locally called *Vaivarun*] found >>>> in and around Bombay [including the one photographed by ... at Kanheri] is >>>> *C.tapia*. It is a small tree with a much-branched head and >>>> greenish-white flowers. The other species of *Crataeva* found in >>>> Maharashtra is* C.adansonii* [*C.tapia* ssp. *odora*] which is common >>>> around Savantwadi and is seen mainly on riverbeds and ocassionally on hilly >>>> slopes. It is a larger tree [upto 10mts tall] with a dense crown and white >>>> flowers. >>>> >>>> Here both *Crataeva tapia* and *C. adansonii* seems to be different. >>>> Species mentioned here seems to be different from what Satish Pardeshi ji >>>> has mentioned above. >>>> >>>> >>>> *C.* BSI (eFlora of India) with details & *keys* >>>> <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=3379&type=3> >>>> (Distribution) does not give any name like *Crataeva tapia* either in >>>> *Crateva >>>> adansonii* >>>> <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=3384&type=4> DC. >>>> subsp. *odora* (Buch.- Ham.) Jacobs in Blumea 12: 198. 1964. *C. odora* >>>> Buch.-Ham. in Trans. Linn. Soc. 15: 118.1827. *C. roxburghii* R. Br. >>>> in Denh. & Clapp. Narr. Trav. Disc. Afr. App . 224. 1826. *C. >>>> religiosa* var. *roxburghii* (R. Br.) Hook. f. & Thomson in Fl. Brit. >>>> India 1:172. 1872. *C. nurvala* sensu Blatter in J. Bombay Nat. Hist. >>>> Soc. 35: 293. 1931, non Buch.- Ham. or *Crateva magna* >>>> <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=3389&type=4> >>>> (Lour.) >>>> DC., Fl. Cochinch. 1: 331. 1790. *Crateva nurvala* Buch.-Ham. in >>>> Trans. Linn. Soc. 15: 121. 1827. *C. lophospemla* Kurz in J. Bot. 12: >>>> 195, t. 147, ff. 4 - 6. 1874. *C. religiosa* var. *nurvala* >>>> (Buch.-Ham.) Hook. f. & Thomoson in Fl. Brit. India 1: 172. 1872. *C. >>>> religiosa* auct. non Forster f.; Dunn in Gamble, Fl. Pres. Madras 47. >>>> 1915. or *Crateva religiosa* >>>> <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=3392&type=4> >>>> Forster >>>> f. >>>> >>>> >>>> *May I request members to pl. send full details regarding accepted >>>> names & synonyms from Almeida, Fl of Maharashtra * >>>> >>>> *From the above (Satish Pardeshi ji) I believe Crateva adansonii ssp. >>>> odora (Buch.-Ham.) Jacobs & Crataeva tapia L. are same, until & unless some >>>> information to the contrary is received*. >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>> the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >>>> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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