Dear Chris Many thanks for this If i am back in that area I shall try and gather more information Regards Mohina
Sent from my iPad > On 19-Nov-2016, at 21:58, "chrischadwell...@btinternet.com" > <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> wrote: > > There seems to be different interpretations of Geranium mascatense and > G.ocellatum. > > 'The Plant List' gives G.ocellatum as a synonym of the former. Whereas Nasir > in 'Flora of Pakistan' separates the two. Stewart does not list G,mascatense > at all but has G.ocellatum var. himalaicum as common from 300-1800m. Nasir, > on the other hand, says that G.mascatense is only sparingly recorded from > Pakistan and then only in Baluchistan. > > G.mascatense is recorded from Africa and the Gulf - so Baluchistan fits OK > with this. Collet had G.ocellatum in hill districts of N.India from same > altitudes as Stewart. IF they constitute separate species, I find it > somewhat surprising to have G.mascatense in the Himalayan foothills. > > I do not know on whose authority G.ocellatum has been sunk into G.mascatense. > According to Nasir the species are very close but G.mascatense has > puberulous mericarps - translating that into English: in Geranium the dry > fruits consists of 5 'mericarps' each with a seed, which may be explosively > dispersed though sometimes remains inside) the 'puberulous' part means downy > with very short soft hairs. So clearly, unless one can observe the fruits of > a geranium this characteristic cannot be ascertained. No doubt Nasir knew of > other differences. > > > Taking a quick look at the images for G.mascastense available on the > internet, most show marked gaps between the petals (as do the images taken in > Muscat in the posting above this) compared with images of specimens from the > foothills of the NW Himalaya (incl. the one near Chakki) which may constitute > sufficient to justify them as separate taxa but without careful study of the > whole plants cannot speculate if that is sufficient (or a consistent > difference) to justify separation as varieties, subspecies or at the species > level but the geographic/altitudinal/climatic differences may be of > significance. > > Cannot comment further at this stage. > > >> On Sunday, June 17, 2012 at 2:00:54 PM UTC+1, mohina macker wrote: >> geranium mascatense >> near chakki mor, himachal pradesh >> second week of march >> regards >> mohina macker > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/AtMRJFBatMA/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.