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Saroj Kasaju On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 8:36 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks, Chadwell ji > > On 27 Jan 2017 7:52 p.m., "C CHADWELL" <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> > wrote: > >> OK. This adds up. Though would still be worth approaching Professor >> Richards for his opinion as to identification - plants >> is cultivation often get mixed-up by various means and are not always a >> single pure species. >> >> ANY plant growing anywhere near habitation in Nepal could easily be a >> cultivated plant - even if 'naturalised' to an extent, which >> the Primula you photographed appears to have be. >> >> Primula forbesii does appear to have been naturalised for decades in >> Nepal as have numerous other PROMINENT plants. >> >> The Supplement to Flowers of the Himalaya has 2 photos of Euphorbia >> pulcherrima (known as 'Poinsetta') which is a native of >> Central America, commonly cultivated in the tropics which is a common >> hedge plant in Nepal to 2000m. Its large vermillion-coloured >> bracts are prominent from a distance. This, presumably was spread around >> the world centuries ago. >> >> Agave spp. also from the Americas are commonly cultivated as hedge-plants >> in the Himalaya. >> >> Yucca aloifolia, a native of N & C. America is cultivated and planted by >> roadsides in Chamba and Kulu Valley in H.P. - I have seen Indian >> tourists stopping their cars to pluck the long branched clusters of >> cream or white flowers. >> >> Whilst Opuntia monacantha 'Prickly Pear' is commonly planted as a hedge >> plant and has naturalized in cultivated areas and on waste ground >> to 1800m. There is a photo in 'Flowers of the Himalaya'. There are >> other Opuntias cultivated. >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> >> Chris Chadwell >> >> >> 81 Parlaunt Road >> SLOUGH >> SL3 8BE >> UK >> >> www.shpa.org.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >> *To:* J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >> *Cc:* C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>; efloraofindia < >> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >> *Sent:* Friday, 27 January 2017, 6:51 >> *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:262569] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Primula malacoides >> Franch. (accepted name) or Primula forbesii (accepted name) >> >> Dear Chris, >> >> Found plenty of this plant along the walls of water canal just outside >> the enclosure of protected garden inside the Godawari Botanical Garden . >> I guess they might have introduced in the garden. >> >> Thank you . >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On 27 Jan 2017 10:09, "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks, Chadwell ji >> >> On 26 Jan 2017 10:28 p.m., "C CHADWELL" <chrischadwell261@btinternet. com >> <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>> wrote: >> >> I have NOT looked closely at the photos posted but have reservations >> about the identification of P.malacoides unless it was being cultivated at >> Godawari. It is not a native of Nepal and has not previously been recorded >> as naturalised. >> >> In the UK it is still (according to Professor Richards) a popular plant >> for heated glasshouse and conservatory culture. It has been seen (by >> Richards) to be grown as a municipal bedding plant in Sydney, Auckland, >> Christchurch & Singapore. >> >> In the wild it is distributed from just outside Myanamar on the Yunnan >> border near the Salween, throughout Yunnnan to western >> Kweichow. A weed of cultivated fields. >> >> Richards described it as closely-related to another weed species, Primula >> forbesii. >> >> Whereas, P.forbesii had been recorded around temples near Kathmandu (and >> some other parts of Nepal) - confirmed by Richards. *Though I remain >> curious as to how it got there as this species, though pretty enough, is >> hardly a normal garden plant.* >> >> In 'Primula' (2003) Richards has a key which separates P.forbesii from >> P.malacoides (and some other species) on the basis of >> the former species having the lowest whorl of flowers overtopping the >> leaves. In the latter, the stem below lowest whorl of flowers >> not exceeding the leaves. >> >> *Perhaps, again, the best person to confirm the identity is Professor >> Richards, so why not forward him the images, as was done * >> *with two other Primulas.* >> >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> >> Chris Chadwell >> >> >> 81 Parlaunt Road >> SLOUGH >> SL3 8BE >> UK >> >> www.shpa.org.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >> *To:* J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >> *Cc:* efloraofindia <indiantree...@googlegroups.co m >> <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>> >> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 January 2017, 10:51 >> *Subject:* [efloraofindia:262457] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Primula malacoides >> Franch. (accepted name) or Primula forbesii (accepted name) >> >> Thank you Dr. Bawri for the ID but not listef in Nepal so far! >> >> On 26 Jan 2017 13:15, "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks a lot, Bawri ji. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: *Dr. Amal Bawri* >> Date: 26 January 2017 at 12:14 >> Subject: Re: Fwd: Primula malacoides Franch. (accepted name) or Primula >> forbesii (accepted name) >> To: "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> >> >> >> Primula malacoides >> On Jan 26, 2017 12:10 PM, "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: *Saroj Kasaju* <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >> Date: 14 January 2017 at 23:11 >> Subject: Primula malacoides Franch. (accepted name) or Primula forbesii >> (accepted name) >> To: efloraofindia <indiantree...@googlegroups.co m >> <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>>, "J.M. 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