Waiting for flower Dinesh Ji.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 6:36:48 AM UTC+5:45, Ushadi wrote:
>
> My pleasure. 
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:10 PM Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks very much, Usha di.
>> Regards.
>> dinesh
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:02 PM Ushadi Micromini <
>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> like the diligence and collegiality in this thread
>>> thats why we are here
>>>
>>> love it
>>> usha di
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:09 AM Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Garg ji for the keys and analysis.
>>>> Updating this post with the concluded ID ... *Aristolochia elegans* 
>>>> Mast. ... as per discussion in another post 
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/X4FCViRQ83U/lX8klUh4BwAJ>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>> Dinesh
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 10:04 AM Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Garg ji.
>>>>> The posted plant, clearly has a conspicuous ear-like structure 
>>>>> (auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of each leaf stalk. Thus, as per 
>>>>> keys, will be not *A. gigantea*.
>>>>> I suggest we also pay heed to the fruits which are different looking 
>>>>> among the above listed species.
>>>>> Will return to this post when I find the plant in flowering as well as 
>>>>> fruiting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 5:38 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I could get the differences between the closely elated species from 
>>>>>> Lucid 
>>>>>> Central 
>>>>>> <https://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/media/Html/aristolochia_elegans.htm>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> as below:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia elegans*) is similar to several 
>>>>>> closely related introduced species that have also become naturalised in 
>>>>>> Australia, including pelican flower (*Aristolochia grandiflora*), 
>>>>>> fragrant Dutchman's pipe (*Arsitolochia odoratissima*) and gaping 
>>>>>> Dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia ringens*). It is also very similar to 
>>>>>> the cultivated giant dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia gigantea*) which 
>>>>>> is often confused with pelican flower (*Aristolochia grandiflora*) 
>>>>>> in the horticultural industry. These species can be distinguished by the 
>>>>>> following differences:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - *Dutchman's pipe (Aristolochia elegans) has a small ear-like 
>>>>>>    structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of each leaf 
>>>>>> stalk*. 
>>>>>>    Its flowers are relatively large and broad (up to 7.5 cm long and 10 
>>>>>> cm 
>>>>>>    wide) and its relatively large fruit (4-6 cm long and about 2.5 cm 
>>>>>> wide) 
>>>>>>    are oblong in shape with a short projection (about 10 mm long) at the 
>>>>>> tip.
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>    - *giant dutchman's pipe (Aristolochia gigantea ) does not 
>>>>>>    have a small ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>    base of each leaf stalk*. Its flowers are very large and broad 
>>>>>>    (up to 30 cm long and 20 cm wide) and its relatively large fruit (up 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>    8 cm long and 3 cm wide) are oblong in shape with a very short 
>>>>>> projection 
>>>>>>    at the tip.
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>    - pelican flower (*Aristolochia grandiflora*) does not have a 
>>>>>>    small ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>    each leaf stalk. Its flowers are very large (up to 25 cm long) with a 
>>>>>> very 
>>>>>>    elongated projection at the base of the flower (i.e. appendix) 20-50 
>>>>>> cm 
>>>>>>    long. Its very large fruit are oblong in shape (about 10 cm long and 
>>>>>> 4-6 cm 
>>>>>>    wide).
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>    - fragrant Dutchman's pipe (*Arsitolochia odoratissima*) has a 
>>>>>>    small ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>    each leaf stalk. Its flowers are relatively large and broad (6-12 cm 
>>>>>> wide) 
>>>>>>    and its moderately large fruit (4.5-8 cm long and 1-1.5 cm wide) are 
>>>>>> oblong 
>>>>>>    in shape and slightly curved.
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>    - gaping Dutchman's pipe (*Aristolochia ringens*) has a small 
>>>>>>    ear-like structure (i.e. auriculate pseudo-stipule) at the base of 
>>>>>> each 
>>>>>>    leaf stalk. Its flowers are relatively large and narrow (10-25 cm 
>>>>>> long) and 
>>>>>>    are split into an upper and lower lobe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10 May 2018 at 18:51, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are the bract like thing also look similar between these two species?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu 10 May, 2018, 5:48 PM Dinesh Valke, <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Checked leaves of both species; they look alike. Let us wait for 
>>>>>>>> flowering.
>>>>>>>> ID of *Aristolochia gigantea* got from the gardener.
>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>> Dinesh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 4:04 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, Dinesh ji,
>>>>>>>>> We do not have this species in efi site.
>>>>>>>>> It looks similar to *Aristolochia elegans* Mast. 
>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/aristolochiaceae/aristolochia/aristolochia-littoralis>
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> in efi site.
>>>>>>>>> Pl. check.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 23 April 2018 at 21:44, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [image: TMC Biodiversity Park] 
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F40580764695%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEGVLFDRKvmf0HbjBtqXM2slId9ow>
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> TMC Biodiversity Park  Thane 
>>>>>>>>>> *Date*: April 22, 2018 ... *Altitude*: about 15 m (50 feet) asl 
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> *Aristolochia gigantea*  Mart. 
>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aristolochia gigantea Mart.] 
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F27751597988%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEnYTlAq1e9_No2ttD-eY8Az3BVdQ>
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [image: Aristolochia gigantea Mart.] 
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F41620486471%2Fin%2Fdateposted%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGQoX4qlzzwxeAp-46ixIw6mnb0xw>
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh 
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