Looks different from Cirsium falconeri <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/15/cirsium-falconeri/> as per images herein. Pl. check other species in the checklist.
On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 11:48, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Your opinion Mr. Garg ! > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 9:50 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thank you Paradesi ji. >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 9:45 pm, Paradesi Anjaneyulu < >> paradesianjiney...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I am thinking you're right Saroj Ji, agreed for flaconeri, >>> With regards. >>> >>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 17:05, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Any opinion Paradesi Ji ? >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> Forwarded Conversation >>>> Subject: Cirsium falconeri (Hook.f.) Petr. (provisionally accepted >>>> name) ?? >>>> ------------------------ >>>> >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:43 PM >>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg < >>>> jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Members, >>>> >>>> Location: Kalinchowk, Dolakha, Nepal >>>> Altitude: 9000 ft. >>>> Date: 26 July 2014 >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 6:10 AM >>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Nice images, Saroj ji. >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:52 PM >>>> To: <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> >>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, Saroj Kasaju < >>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10 Jan 2017 4:31 p.m., "chrischadwell...@btinternet.com" < >>>> chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> See my recent comments about Cirsium falconeri. The plant you >>>>> photographed is definitely not the same as C.falconeri >>>>> found in Kashmir. >>>>> >>>>> I have indicated that quite a number of the postings on eFI named as >>>>> C.falconeri are not this species or indeed Cirsiums. >>>>> >>>>> Distinguishing between these thistles is difficult. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 4:01 PM >>>> To: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>, efloraofindia < >>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Enclosing link if it could help to ID. >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139 >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 10:18 PM >>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com>, < >>>> chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> See my recent comments about Cirsium falconeri. The plant you >>>> photographed is definitely not the same as C.falconeri >>>> found in Kashmir. >>>> I have indicated that quite a number of the postings on eFI named as >>>> C.falconeri are not this species or indeed Cirsiums. >>>> Distinguishing between these thistles is difficult. >>>> - Chadwell ji >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Enclosing link if it could help to ID. >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139 >>>> Thank you. >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian >>>> >>>> Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For identification, >>>> >>>> learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join >>>> >>>> our Efloraofindia >>>> >>>> Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> >>>> (largest >>>> >>>> in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or >>>> >>>> Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> >>>> (with a species database of more than >>>> >>>> 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >>>> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Also author of 'A >>>> >>>> Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> >>>> Date: Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:13 AM >>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com>, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for the link to the current listing of Cirsium species recorded >>>> from Nepal but ALL these were >>>> within 'An Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of Nepal' Vol 3 (1982) >>>> which covered this genus. >>>> >>>> Kitamura & Gould who wrote the account of Asteraceae (then Compositae) >>>> stated for C.falconeri in >>>> Nepal that the taxon as recognised is a very variable species - they >>>> outlined the differences between >>>> 'Kashmir' plants and 'Eastern Himalaya' ones. They concluded that the >>>> amount of variation suggests >>>> that several species may be involved and further study is required. >>>> >>>> I am in agreement with this. It does not appear that this study has >>>> taken place in the intervening period. >>>> >>>> I should be in a position to comment further about the images posted >>>> under the name C.falconeri on eFI >>>> but a MAJOR study is required overall - there are limits to what I can >>>> do. >>>> >>>> For the time-being, my INITIAL impressions were that SOME of the images >>>> posted not only did not match >>>> the Kashmir form of C.falconeri but were not the 'Eastern Himalayan >>>> Form' either (whatever taxa are decided >>>> upon when a thorough revision has taken place) and may well belong >>>> either to other Cirsium species or >>>> related genera. >>>> >>>> I cannot meaningful do any MORE with the images you posted at this >>>> stage. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best Wishes, >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Chadwell >>>> >>>> >>>> 81 Parlaunt Road >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> SLOUGH >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> SL3 8BE >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> UK >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> >>>> www.shpa.org.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>> *To:* J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> *Cc:* C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>; efloraofindia < >>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 11 January 2017, 10:16 >>>> *Subject:* [efloraofindia:261049] Re: Cirsium falconeri (Hook.f.) >>>> Petr. (provisionally accepted name) ?? >>>> >>>> Enclosing link if it could help to ID. >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139 >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:52 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/RruBwOw_KTc/unsubscribe >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>> indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> >>>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:55 PM >>>> To: Ashutosh Sharma <ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: efloraindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg < >>>> jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Ashutosh Ji, >>>> >>>> Some help for ID ? >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> Forwarded Conversation >>>> Subject: Cirsium falconeri (Hook.f.) Petr. (provisionally accepted >>>> name) ?? >>>> ------------------------ >>>> >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:43 PM >>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg < >>>> jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Members, >>>> >>>> Location: Kalinchowk, Dolakha, Nepal >>>> Altitude: 9000 ft. >>>> Date: 26 July 2014 >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 6:10 AM >>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Nice images, Saroj ji. >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:52 PM >>>> To: <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> >>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, Saroj Kasaju < >>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10 Jan 2017 4:31 p.m., "chrischadwell...@btinternet.com" < >>>> chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> See my recent comments about Cirsium falconeri. The plant you >>>>> photographed is definitely not the same as C.falconeri >>>>> found in Kashmir. >>>>> >>>>> I have indicated that quite a number of the postings on eFI named as >>>>> C.falconeri are not this species or indeed Cirsiums. >>>>> >>>>> Distinguishing between these thistles is difficult. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 4:01 PM >>>> To: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>, efloraofindia < >>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Enclosing link if it could help to ID. >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139 >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 10:18 PM >>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com>, < >>>> chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> See my recent comments about Cirsium falconeri. The plant you >>>> photographed is definitely not the same as C.falconeri >>>> found in Kashmir. >>>> I have indicated that quite a number of the postings on eFI named as >>>> C.falconeri are not this species or indeed Cirsiums. >>>> Distinguishing between these thistles is difficult. >>>> - Chadwell ji >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Enclosing link if it could help to ID. >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=107139 >>>> Thank you. >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian >>>> >>>> Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For identification, >>>> >>>> learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join >>>> >>>> our Efloraofindia >>>> >>>> Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> >>>> (largest >>>> >>>> in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or >>>> >>>> Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> >>>> (with a species database of more than >>>> >>>> 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >>>> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Also author of 'A >>>> >>>> Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> >>>> Date: Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:13 AM >>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com>, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 6:33 PM >>>> To: Ashutosh Sharma <ashutoshsharma1...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: efloraindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg < >>>> jmga...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> This ID is still pending ! Opinion from members please! >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> > -- With regards, J.M.Garg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFBdwOdYXrpHZQyN3uK_htC_L3ashWk%3Dz55afZ6ZGDwVFg%40mail.gmail.com.
