---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Tapas Chakrabarty <tchak...@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 17:08 Subject: Re: [itpmods:15940] Fwd: What is the secret behind so many endemic species in Kerala ? To: itpmods <itpm...@googlegroups.com>
Enjoying the discussion! On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, 14:20 Pankaj Kumar, <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Please also remember that this issue is not just in Indian plants. I see > more in Chinese plants actually !!! > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 16:43, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks, Pankaj ji. >> I also think that is much more important. >> Revisionary studies with deep study of a genus with thousands of >> specimens and hundreds of original literatures/ publications, are much more >> important. >> It may certainly involve many many years of ones' productive life. >> >> On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 14:05, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> In the past 10 years in Hong Kong, I have merged around 35 new and old >>> species names into existing ones. Imagine, so much work to do. I already >>> have a new list for my next publication. Achievement of a taxonomist is not >>> just publishing new species but also correcting the existing ones. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 16:30, Dr E S Santhosh Kumar < >>> santhoshkuma...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes GargJi, this is what I too felt nowadays 🤣 >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 13:10 J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I somehow have the feeling that only one out of the 10 species >>>>> published currently, may stand the scrutiny of time and remain as a valid >>>>> species and not relegated as a synonym. >>>>> I do not know how others feel about it. Hard core taxonomists may give >>>>> a better estimate. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 13:03, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks a lot, Santhosh ji. >>>>>> You have explained the things so well. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 13:00, Dr E S Santhosh Kumar < >>>>>> essanthoshjntb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>> The question " What is the secret behind so many endemic species in >>>>>>> Kerala? " raised by Gargji has several answers. The first reason has >>>>>>> been >>>>>>> very well explained by SanthanJi. Secondly, the flora of Kerala has been >>>>>>> well explored and documented and every part of the state has been >>>>>>> thoroughly explored and the important findings were published in time. >>>>>>> There are certain exceptions that a few new gen botanists described the >>>>>>> already known species in many foreign journals as new species again. >>>>>>> Sadly >>>>>>> in several cases the reviewers never known about it. In the recent >>>>>>> climatic >>>>>>> change scenario, several ephemerals become annuals or biennials or even >>>>>>> perennials through several perennating mechanism. Such species often >>>>>>> mistakenly described new during recent times from Kerala. Genera such as >>>>>>> Impatiens, Sonerila, Strobilanthes etc are having several species grow >>>>>>> together in a biome often have a chance of exchange genes by >>>>>>> interbreeding >>>>>>> between them. The F1 generation often having characters of both parents >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> also possessing certain unique characters of themselves. It is called >>>>>>> Nothospecies. Such characters never having a chance of continue over >>>>>>> generations. Some of the new gen botanists described such taxa as >>>>>>> novelties >>>>>>> to science. There are several hidden agenda behind it. Certain exotic >>>>>>> species naturalized in Kerala years ago show several ecological traits >>>>>>> also >>>>>>> described novelties recently. Unnecessary addition of fictitious >>>>>>> novelties increased the number of endemics in Kerala. I have prepared a >>>>>>> list of such 'paper species', but wont like to publish in such a public >>>>>>> forum. Let some experts in respective fields should tackle the issue. >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 12:25 J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 at 11:25 >>>>>>>> Subject: What is the secret behind so many endemic species in >>>>>>>> Kerala ? >>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>> While browsing through Flora of Peninsular India, I generally found >>>>>>>> that Kerala is having so many endmics (including narrow endemics with >>>>>>>> distribution shown in only one place or district) compared to >>>>>>>> other states like Tamil Nadu and Karnataka etc. >>>>>>>> What can be the reason behind it ? >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To view this 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