No, I am talking about may be the german version of the phrase where they specifically say INDIAN CRABS!! Pankaj
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <pankajoud...@gmail.com> wrote: > It is not Indian Crabs but habit of all crabs in general. This phrase is > popularly used for Cancerian i.e. Kark Rashi people in Astrology. ;) > > regards > > Pankaj Oudhia > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> I agree with Shrikant sir on one point. We Indians have this habit of >> pointing on others but we never tend to correct ourselves. >> Sorry to say that!!...but if every Indian tries to correct his or her >> own deeds then India will surely emerge out as a better nation than >> any other country in the world. There is a very bad phrase for Indians >> in Germany. You put the Indian Crabs in a bucket and none will come >> out.....WHY????.... because each one of them is pulling legs of >> others!!!! >> >> Regards >> Pankaj >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:45 AM, shrikant ingalhalikar >> <le...@rediffmail.com> wrote: >> > Dear All, >> > >> > I am repeating my comments posted else where some time back. >> > Incidently only Mr. Oudhia responded with concern on it (Loss to >> > Iphigenia stellata). In the recent pictures no car is seen off the >> > road and inspite of all the inconvenience they seem to be parked in >> > descipline. When you are within a crowd of 37K, no point complaining >> > about mob mentality. Please excuse me for this comment but instead of >> > pointing at the 'other idiot' (just a phrase) each one should refrain >> > from visiting on a peak flowering day. I refused to go as a resource >> > person with 3 groups and all went on the same Sunday. Kas is a great >> > place to go any time and many times. >> > >> > First of all pls trust that I am with the sentiments of members over >> > conservation of Kas heritage. I have been watching this location for >> > the past 35 years for its flora. I wish to assure everyone that Kas >> > flora diversity and distribution has not changed a bit in the last 35 >> > years. This is in spite of trampling, burning, grazing and other >> > local >> > interventions over infinite years. Most of the plants here have >> > rhizomes, tubers or bulbs that remain safe under the ground to sprout >> > in the next monsoon. Plants regenerating from seeds are abundent and >> > plucking by a few over enthusiasts makes a little or no difference to >> > their re-appearance. Plants said to have some use are plucked the >> > most. >> > >> > >> > The only plant that may be facing a threat is Iphigenia stellata. In >> > July when other plants are not in bloom and Kas is deserted, several >> > people arrive at Kas early morniing and dig out plants with tubers. A >> > plant per 1 sq m is dug out and taken away for medicinal use. Its >> > fortunate (?) that the plant still sprouts each year to be collected >> > next year. I am hence srictly against spelling out any uses for any >> > plant; and on top of it people think wild plants have more potency >> > than the cultivated ones. Why can't they grow such plants in their >> > fields? >> > >> > >> > The most concerning part is the thronging of enthusiasts in great >> > numbers on a particular day. The facilities certainly can not cope up >> > to accomodate 5000 vehicles and 20,000 visitors. (As reported on 19 >> > th >> > Sept) Every visitor thinks that others should not have come. Best >> > way >> > to enjoy Kas in such a situations is to avoid peak hours and to avoid >> > peak crowding days. If local businessmen see a huge crowd thronging, >> > they are bound to cash on the needs of visitors. Unfortunetely the >> > crowd is creating the market for resorts, eating houses and stalls. >> > As >> > such the influx of visitors (and even this concern) fades away with >> > the bloom of flowers and in other months no one cares to stop at Kas >> > plateau. I have stopped going to Kas for the last few years. There >> > are >> > many plateaus around but they are not accessible by car like Kas. >> > >> > >> > Putting up a board to show the exact location is not necessary; >> > people >> > who know the plants don't miss it but why attract even the ignorant >> > ones? Every time conservation issue is raised, the forest dept (or I >> > do not know who) takes up tree plantation at any site. Kas is no >> > exception to this disaster. Several Silver Oaks can be seen planted >> > on >> > the plateau proudly by some one. Putting up a fence to prevent >> > movement of people and cattle also can be harmful. The famous valley >> > of flowers is grossly invaded by Polygonum and Impatiens due to such >> > restrictions. >> > >> > >> > Littering is a problem with visitors but thats a national problem. We >> > can only reduce it with volutary help. Many local groups await help >> > from visitors on this issue. A meet of Kas lovers in an off season >> > month to pick garbage will be very useful. Action beyond just >> > complaining is welcome. >> > >> > >> > Developement in terms of mining and wind mills would be disastrous >> > but >> > I am sure Kas will be spared from such invasion. Every location >> > suited >> > for a non polluting non conventional energy resource is bound to be >> > on >> > a plateau and is bound to have some flora and fauna. A balanced >> > approach rather than a total ban would resolve this issue. As such >> > the >> > wind mill site gets under tight security after the installation. It >> > would be worthwhile to find out how the the flora and fauna has >> > changed there after a few years of isolation. >> > >> > >> > No one can resist going to Kas and posting the spectacle on Orkut, >> > Facebook or Google groups. I feel that we ourselves should ensure >> > that >> > we do not burden Kas. If a tea stall comes up we should refrain from >> > holding a steaming cup in the rolling mist of Kas. The plateau >> > expects >> > least interventions from outsiders like us, it will sustain and >> > please >> > us as it has done over the years. >> > >> > >> > Thank you and with regards, Shrikant >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Oct 4, 3:46 pm, arvind kadus <agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in> wrote: >> >> KAAS..Ata BAA...SS ! Asach Mhanayachi Vel Aliye! >> >> Here are some veiws showing how we Indian people are ! Now we have >> >> to say Ab Bass !!! >> >> KAAS BACHAO ! Prevent to make it another PANCHGANI ! >> >> Last Sat Sunday 37000 people visited Kaas, This sat Sunday data yet to >> >> come ! Imagin how much quantity of the plants were distroyed by the people >> >> in these Sat Sundays! >> >> Dr.Kadus Arvind, Pune. >> >> >> >> Nature Vs Devolopment.JPG >> >> 38KViewDownload >> >> >> >> Need to stop now!.JPG >> >> 31KViewDownload >> >> >> >> Parking of approx 1 km line..JPG >> >> 43KViewDownload >> >> >> >> People are coming with full of Buses.JPG >> >> 64KViewDownload >> >> >> >> Photo Kadhanyachi Kewadhi Ti Haus !!.JPG >> >> 62KViewDownload >> >> >> >> Smithia Crying !!.JPG >> >> 130KViewDownload >> >> >> >> Traffic jam at KAAS..JPG >> >> 45KViewDownload >> >> >> >> We have to Stop this !.JPG >> >> 140KViewDownload >> >> >> >> -- >> *********************************************** >> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> Research Associate >> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >> Department of Habitat Ecology >> Wildlife Institute of India >> Post Box # 18 >> Dehradun - 248001, India > > -- *********************************************** "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) Research Associate Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project Department of Habitat Ecology Wildlife Institute of India Post Box # 18 Dehradun - 248001, India
