And yes, my source says Baraloniya in Bengali L should be logical:
Baralaniya in Hindi Motiloni in Gujarati Brihalloni, lanika and lonamla in Sanskrit Lonak in Punjab -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>wrote: > Usha di ... immense thanks !!! > To me now, getting common names validated is seeming just as important as > botanical names. > Your elaborate noting has increased my confidence in pursuing compilation > of plant names. > > The name *noniya* and its variants belong to Hindi speaking regions ... > the neighbouring regions may have got influenced by it. > > Will make corrections in my notes. > > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Ushadi micromini < > microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> DEAR Dineshji and Gurucharan ji: >> Nooniya is not name we recognize in urban west bengal, namely mostly >> West Bengal and its vicinity... >> all saag sellers are village women who come to Calcutta markets with >> their haul of yesterday from their village tanks, riverbanks, >> forests.... >> >> 1: They and our non-english reading and speaking Bengali folks... >> call it LOONE saak লুনে শাক... >> so I wanted to be sure before I responded.... >> Supporting Reference for this is in a booklet called: " Banglar >> Saak" dated March 2003 published by The DEVELOPMENT Research >> Communication and Services Center, 18 b Gariahat Road, Dhakuria, >> Kolkata 700031. >> ( I would like to send the pic of the cover and the page with this >> saak of the book but there is no option here to include an >> attachment, or I have just not found it, not smart enough I guess) !!! >> >> >> 2: Santhal tribals in Bengal call it Golgol-sag.. Reference: TRIBAL >> MEDICINE by Dr. DC Pal and SK Jain...page 216. >> published 1997 Kolkata.by Naya Prokas Kolkata ISN 81-85421-307.. >> >> 3: My servants recognize it, eat it and buy it sometimes...from our >> local market... There is one growing in my balcony at the base of my >> potted Adenium obesum....that single loone saag has also developed >> the telltale yellow tiny flowers... >> >> I would recognize portulaca any way... it was a common weed in upstate >> NY countryside and on many a weekends I have gone on hikes with my >> herbal medicine teachers, we would pick Portulaca among many things >> from the pristine woods, and eat them in our salad for lunch or add in >> the sandwiches... nowadays green grocers carry it all over NYC.... >> >> sorry to respond so late... but it took a while to dig out skinny >> botany books in Bengali script.. >> >> Thanks >> Usha di >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 22, 6:26 pm, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Many thanks Gurcharan ji. >> > Have set incremental goal ... first compiling names for the native flora >> > that is found in my collection (Western Ghats in my vicinity) ... next, >> eFI >> > & FOI ... can go at it with the only option ... slowly and steadily !!! >> > >> > Regards. >> > Dinesh >> > >> > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > That is really great Dinesh ji >> > >> > > -- >> > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > > Retired Associate Professor >> > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > >http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> > >> > > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com >> >wrote: >> > >> > >> via Species< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species> >> > >> > P < >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/p> > >> > >> >> > >> *Portulaca oleracea* L. >> > >> [image: Portulaca oleracea]< >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/5675674737/> >> > >> > >> [image: Flowers of India]< >> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Purslane.html>[image: >> > >> Discussions at efloraofindia]< >> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/Port.. >> .>[image: >> > >> more views in flickr]< >> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Portulacaoleracea&m=tags&z=m>[image: >> > >> more views on Google Earth]< >> http://api.flickr.com/services/feeds/geo/india/&tags=Portulacaolerace...> >> > >> > >> *commonly known as*: purslane< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/p...> >> > >> • *Assamese*: মালভোগ শাক malbhog xaak< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/assamese/...> >> > >> • *Bengali*: নূনিযা সাগ nuniya saag< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/bengali/n...> >> > >> • *Gujarati*: લૂણી luni< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/gujarati/...> >> > >> • *Hindi*: घोल ghol< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/gho...> >> > >> , लोनिया loniya< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/lon...> >> > >> , नोनिया noniya< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/non...> >> > >> • *Kannada*: ದೊಡ್ಡ ಗೋಣಿ ಸೊಪ್ಪು dodda goni soppu< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/d...> >> > >> , ಕಿರುಗೋಣಿ ಸೊಪ್ಪು kirugoni soppu< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/k...> >> > >> • *Kashmiri*: कुन kuna< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kashmiri/...> >> > >> • *Konkani*: गोळ gol< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/konkani/g...> >> > >> • *Malayalam*: കൊഴുപ്പ koluppa< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/malayalam...> >> > >> • *Manipuri*: লৈবাক কুন্দো leibak kundo< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/manipuri/...> >> > >> • *Marathi*: घोळ ghol< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/g...> >> > >> • *Oriya*: lunia< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/oriya/lunia> >> > >> • *Persian*: خرفه khurfa< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/persian/k...> >> > >> • *Punjabi*: ਧਮਣੀ dhamni< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/punjabi/d...> >> > >> , ਕੁਲਫਾ kulfa< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/punjabi/k...> >> > >> , ਲੂਨਕ lunak< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/punjabi/l...> >> > >> •*Sanskrit*: घोटक ghotaka< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/...> >> > >> , लोणिका lonika< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/...> >> > >> • *Tamil*: கோழிக்கீரை koli-k-kirai< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/kol...> >> > >> , பருப்புக்கீரை paruppu-k-kirai< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/par...> >> > >> • *Telugu*:పెద్ద పావిలికూర pedda pavilikura< >> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/telugu/pe...> >> > >> > >> *botanical name*: *Portulaca oleracea* L. >> > >> > >> Regards. >> > >> Dinesh >> > >> > >> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Dinesh Valke < >> dinesh.va...@gmail.com>wrote: >> > >> > >>> Many thanks Gurcharan ji for the quick response. >> > >>> Could find it from online transliteration to be chanikya saag. >> > >> > >>> Yes, noniya OR nuniya is a popular name for *Portulaca oleracea* in >> > >>> Bengal and Assam. >> > >> > >>> Regards. >> > >>> Dinesh >> > >> > >>> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >> singh...@gmail.com>wrote: >> > >> > >>>> Dinesh ji >> > >>>> Don't know about transliteration but from my Useful Plant of India >> it is >> > >>>> Noniya (perhaps first word) the second I guess should be saag >> > >> > >>>> Assamese name for plant is Noniya >> > >> > >>>> -- >> > >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > >>>> Retired Associate Professor >> > >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > >>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> > >> > >>>> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Dinesh Valke < >> dinesh.va...@gmail.com>wrote: >> > >> > >>>>> Dear Assamiya-knowing friends, >> > >> > >>>>> Please let me know how does চানেকীয়া শাক gets transliterated in >> > >>>>> English. >> > >>>>> This is in context of *Portulaca oleracea*. >> > >> > >>>>> Regards. >> > >>>>> Dinesh > > >
