Many thanks Gurcharan ji. We observe that the names in most of the languages have an adjective prefixed implying "large" OR "big". In due course of time we will discover other plant(s) which is known otherwise (small).
Will make relevant changes in my notes. Regards. Dinesh On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote: > And yes, my source says Baraloniya in Bengali > > L should be logical: > > Baralaniya in Hindi > Motiloni in Gujarati > Brihalloni, lanika and lonamla in Sanskrit > Lonak in Punjab > > > > -- > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > -- > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Usha di ... immense thanks !!! >> To me now, getting common names validated is seeming just as important as >> botanical names. >> Your elaborate noting has increased my confidence in pursuing compilation >> of plant names. >> >> The name *noniya* and its variants belong to Hindi speaking regions ... >> the neighbouring regions may have got influenced by it. >> >> Will make corrections in my notes. >> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Ushadi micromini < >> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> DEAR Dineshji and Gurucharan ji: >>> Nooniya is not name we recognize in urban west bengal, namely mostly >>> West Bengal and its vicinity... >>> all saag sellers are village women who come to Calcutta markets with >>> their haul of yesterday from their village tanks, riverbanks, >>> forests.... >>> >>> 1: They and our non-english reading and speaking Bengali folks... >>> call it LOONE saak লুনে শাক... >>> so I wanted to be sure before I responded.... >>> Supporting Reference for this is in a booklet called: " Banglar >>> Saak" dated March 2003 published by The DEVELOPMENT Research >>> Communication and Services Center, 18 b Gariahat Road, Dhakuria, >>> Kolkata 700031. >>> ( I would like to send the pic of the cover and the page with this >>> saak of the book but there is no option here to include an >>> attachment, or I have just not found it, not smart enough I guess) !!! >>> >>> >>> 2: Santhal tribals in Bengal call it Golgol-sag.. Reference: TRIBAL >>> MEDICINE by Dr. DC Pal and SK Jain...page 216. >>> published 1997 Kolkata.by Naya Prokas Kolkata ISN 81-85421-307.. >>> >>> 3: My servants recognize it, eat it and buy it sometimes...from our >>> local market... There is one growing in my balcony at the base of my >>> potted Adenium obesum....that single loone saag has also developed >>> the telltale yellow tiny flowers... >>> >>> I would recognize portulaca any way... it was a common weed in upstate >>> NY countryside and on many a weekends I have gone on hikes with my >>> herbal medicine teachers, we would pick Portulaca among many things >>> from the pristine woods, and eat them in our salad for lunch or add in >>> the sandwiches... nowadays green grocers carry it all over NYC.... >>> >>> sorry to respond so late... but it took a while to dig out skinny >>> botany books in Bengali script.. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Usha di >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 22, 6:26 pm, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Many thanks Gurcharan ji. >>> > Have set incremental goal ... first compiling names for the native >>> flora >>> > that is found in my collection (Western Ghats in my vicinity) ... next, >>> eFI >>> > & FOI ... can go at it with the only option ... slowly and steadily !!! >>> > >>> > Regards. >>> > Dinesh >>> > >>> > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > > That is really great Dinesh ji >>> > >>> > > -- >>> > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> > > Retired Associate Professor >>> > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> > > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> > >http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> > >>> > > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Dinesh Valke < >>> dinesh.va...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> > >>> > >> via Species< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species> >>> > >> > P < >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/p> > >>> > >> >>> > >> *Portulaca oleracea* L. >>> > >> [image: Portulaca oleracea]< >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/5675674737/> >>> > >>> > >> [image: Flowers of India]< >>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Purslane.html>[image: >>> > >> Discussions at efloraofindia]< >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21searchin/indiantreepix/Port.. >>> .>[image: >>> > >> more views in flickr]< >>> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Portulacaoleracea&m=tags&z=m>[image: >>> > >> more views on Google Earth]< >>> http://api.flickr.com/services/feeds/geo/india/&tags=Portulacaolerace.. >>> .> >>> > >>> > >> *commonly known as*: purslane< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/p.. >>> .> >>> > >> • *Assamese*: মালভোগ শাক malbhog xaak< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/assamese/.. >>> .> >>> > >> • *Bengali*: নূনিযা সাগ nuniya saag< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/bengali/n.. >>> .> >>> > >> • *Gujarati*: લૂણી luni< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/gujarati/.. >>> .> >>> > >> • *Hindi*: घोल ghol< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/gho.. >>> .> >>> > >> , लोनिया loniya< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/lon.. >>> .> >>> > >> , नोनिया noniya< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/hindi/non.. >>> .> >>> > >> • *Kannada*: ದೊಡ್ಡ ಗೋಣಿ ಸೊಪ್ಪು dodda goni soppu< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/d.. >>> .> >>> > >> , ಕಿರುಗೋಣಿ ಸೊಪ್ಪು kirugoni soppu< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kannada/k.. >>> .> >>> > >> • *Kashmiri*: कुन kuna< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/kashmiri/.. >>> .> >>> > >> • *Konkani*: गोळ gol< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/konkani/g.. >>> .> >>> > >> • *Malayalam*: കൊഴുപ്പ koluppa< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/malayalam.. >>> .> >>> > >> • *Manipuri*: লৈবাক কুন্দো leibak kundo< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/manipuri/.. >>> .> >>> > >> • *Marathi*: घोळ ghol< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/marathi/g.. >>> .> >>> > >> • *Oriya*: lunia< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/oriya/lunia> >>> > >> • *Persian*: خرفه khurfa< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/persian/k.. >>> .> >>> > >> • *Punjabi*: ਧਮਣੀ dhamni< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/punjabi/d.. >>> .> >>> > >> , ਕੁਲਫਾ kulfa< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/punjabi/k.. >>> .> >>> > >> , ਲੂਨਕ lunak< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/punjabi/l.. >>> .> >>> > >> •*Sanskrit*: घोटक ghotaka< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/.. >>> .> >>> > >> , लोणिका lonika< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/sanskrit/.. >>> .> >>> > >> • *Tamil*: கோழிக்கீரை koli-k-kirai< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/kol.. >>> .> >>> > >> , பருப்புக்கீரை paruppu-k-kirai< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/tamil/par.. >>> .> >>> > >> • *Telugu*:పెద్ద పావిలికూర pedda pavilikura< >>> https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/telugu/pe.. >>> .> >>> > >>> > >> *botanical name*: *Portulaca oleracea* L. >>> > >>> > >> Regards. >>> > >> Dinesh >>> > >>> > >> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Dinesh Valke < >>> dinesh.va...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> Many thanks Gurcharan ji for the quick response. >>> > >>> Could find it from online transliteration to be chanikya saag. >>> > >>> > >>> Yes, noniya OR nuniya is a popular name for *Portulaca oleracea* in >>> > >>> Bengal and Assam. >>> > >>> > >>> Regards. >>> > >>> Dinesh >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>> singh...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> > >>> > >>>> Dinesh ji >>> > >>>> Don't know about transliteration but from my Useful Plant of India >>> it is >>> > >>>> Noniya (perhaps first word) the second I guess should be saag >>> > >>> > >>>> Assamese name for plant is Noniya >>> > >>> > >>>> -- >>> > >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> > >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>> > >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> > >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> > >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> > >>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> > >>> > >>>> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Dinesh Valke < >>> dinesh.va...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> > >>> > >>>>> Dear Assamiya-knowing friends, >>> > >>> > >>>>> Please let me know how does চানেকীয়া শাক gets transliterated in >>> > >>>>> English. >>> > >>>>> This is in context of *Portulaca oleracea*. >>> > >>> > >>>>> Regards. >>> > >>>>> Dinesh >> >> >> > >
