Thank you Dineshji for your response I was not aware that we do not have a software team support. I am sorry to have made the suggestion . But I hope you understand that I was not aware of this because managing such a huge group activity is really difficult. Regards Bhagyashri
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear friends, > > It is good to note the frank opinion of Bhagyashri ji (aka Madhuri ji). > > My wanting to put the Google Forms was to save the immense and harrowing > trouble that the coordinators would face. > Specially because our group is very active !! > > Google Groups, and for that matter any of the online groups, are *facilities > provided* by Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, etc ... there are different > flavours too ... for instance, Facebook too has concept of Groups. > But our group is already established with Google Groups. > > Since this Group activity is *not on a "hosted site"* there is is no role > of software team who can help us with solutions. (I see that you are now > aware of this point). > Laymen like us will have to smartly make use of facilities provided by > Google, or even other organization's, if it serves our purpose. > > > To make it simpler, the form could have had multiple type-in fields. > That is to say, if someone wants to nominate for one X person, Y number of > best photographs, the form could be accordingly made. > > BUT, the difficulty again shifts to the coordinators. > At the backstage, the data would get haphazardly populated ... that is, A > person may put 1 entry, B may put 10, C may 3 .. and so on. > To sort and collate will be again added work to the coordinators. > > Present solution is best suited to the nominator as well as the > coordinator. > > BUT if every member insists, we will have to re-think (OR re-design the > form) to make our efforts simpler. > > > For this time, requesting everyone to come forward and cast at least single > entry for each: Best Photograph and Best Set of Photographs. > > > > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> @Gurcharanji >> I am sorry that I have not been able to put across my point properly. I >> assumed that there is a software development team which manages >> efloraofindia group. >> Based on this assumption I proposed that they make a small software which >> would extract all the required info automatically in a matter of few seconds >> forget minutes. I had no intention or thought that someone type all this >> huge data. I was thinking how to save your time and make things easy for >> you. >> I agree that the system devised by Dineshji is excellent and ideal. >> Regards >> Bhagyshri >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Madhuri ji >>> The present system is most ideal one. You need not nominate all. Do it >>> for the ones which you consider worth nominating. All different people >>> nominate and the data goes into one file at the end of the month to collate. >>> If we agree to your suggestion (in fact we had decided like that till Dinesh >>> ji came to our rescue) and there are thousands of mail who will go through >>> all mails to know every nomination, put them in one file. It may take 5-6 >>> days for one man. In present situation the data goes into file >>> simultaneously. >>> >>> Surely you won't like us to work for five days if the same thing can be >>> done within half an hour. Let us try to understand and appreciate technology >>> that simplifies our efforts >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I am trying to add the nominations for best Pic and best set of pics. I >>>> have many to add and its getting tiring is my frank opinion. Due to fatigue >>>> I may refrain from adding more and inadvertently do injustice to some. I >>>> think this may happen to many. >>>> >>>> Thinking about this I feel the following >>>> >>>> 1.Can we have to sub emailids for eflora one as efloraofindia_bestpic & >>>> efloraofindia_bestset >>>> >>>> 2. Whenever a member comes across a good pic/good set he /she should >>>> just forward it to the respective email addresses >>>> >>>> 3.The software development team I am sure can pick up all the necessary >>>> info from these forwarded msgs like date,subject line, from whom etc for >>>> analysis >>>> >>>> 4. If this is possible for the software development team the procedure >>>> will be much easier for the voter and also for statistical analysis team >>>> >>>> 5. The only problem will arise when we select best pic from a set >>>> I do not know how to solve this problem >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Bhagyashri >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks a Lot Sir !!!!!! >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes of course, why not >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ya Good question Bhagyashri Ji!!!!!! >>>>>>> I was also thinking on the same line !!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have a question >>>>>>>> Can a member nominate himself/herself? >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Bhagyashri >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>> singh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In reply to query by Giby ji >>>>>>>>> The mail carrying the photographs should have been uploaded this >>>>>>>>> month. Photographs uploaded in previous months but resurfaced in this >>>>>>>>> month, >>>>>>>>> or thread carried to present month are not eligible for nomination. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>>>> dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> These forms will be received by you just as normally you would >>>>>>>>>> receive any post from eFI. >>>>>>>>>> *These are nothing but Usha di's forms which are converted into >>>>>>>>>> Google Forms.* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Google Form collates the responses received from the members >>>>>>>>>> and will take the burden off the coordinators (Gurcharan ji and Usha >>>>>>>>>> di) of >>>>>>>>>> assembling the responses in a logical manner. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tomorrow among all the regular posts of eFI, please expect to find >>>>>>>>>> two posts from me -- >>>>>>>>>> 1) Best Photograph of the month of Sep 2011 >>>>>>>>>> 2) Best Set of Photographs in the month of Sep 2011 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Re-iterating what Usha di has already said: *Please keep ready >>>>>>>>>> the following information*: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *For the person being nominated for the best photograph*: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Filename of the photograph (that what is seen as the name >>>>>>>>>> of the attached photograph) >>>>>>>>>> 2. Name of the person >>>>>>>>>> 3. Post number OR Link to the post >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *For the person being nominated for best set of photographs*: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Name of the person >>>>>>>>>> 2. Post number OR Link to the post >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *What is Post number OR Link to the post* ? >>>>>>>>>> 1) *If you are using your favourite webmail*, please lookup in >>>>>>>>>> the subject line of the post; you will find the Post Number similar >>>>>>>>>> to this: >>>>>>>>>> *[efloraofindia:XXXXX]* copy-paste it into your notes >>>>>>>>>> 2) *If you are using our Google Group's page* at >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/indiantreepix ... >>>>>>>>>> lookup at the top, the words "Link to this topic" OR the icon >>>>>>>>>> seeming like a >>>>>>>>>> horizontal 8 ... click on it ... copy-paste the link into your notes. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Happy nominating !! ... remember you can nominate any number of >>>>>>>>>> photographs OR set of photographs. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>>> singh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear friends >>>>>>>>>>> After discussion in the moderator Group it has been decided that >>>>>>>>>>> we will allow multiple voting in each category. Each member can >>>>>>>>>>> nominate >>>>>>>>>>> more than one photograph/set of photographs, there being no limit >>>>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>>>> number of nominations a member can make. This decision has been >>>>>>>>>>> taken for >>>>>>>>>>> two reasons: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. This being first month of this selection we do not know how >>>>>>>>>>> many members will vote, and in case people vote for different >>>>>>>>>>> photographs/sets, and we have several with single vote and none >>>>>>>>>>> with more >>>>>>>>>>> than one vote, selection would be impossible. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2. This month has seen unprecedented upload of high quality >>>>>>>>>>> photographs and even I found impossible to select one, without >>>>>>>>>>> ignoring >>>>>>>>>>> others. With choice to nominate more than one, I think we can do >>>>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>>>> justice to all members with quality photographs. The one getting >>>>>>>>>>> highest >>>>>>>>>>> votes will be the winner in each category. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So please go ahead and vote as many times as you want, *BUT NOT >>>>>>>>>>> NOMINATION OF SAME PHOTOGRAPH/SET TWICE*. You may nominate as >>>>>>>>>>> many different photographs/sets as you like. You will have to fill >>>>>>>>>>> up form >>>>>>>>>>> separately for each nomination in a particular category. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *FORMS WILL BE UPLOADED BY DINESH JI AT MIDNIGHT AND VOTING >>>>>>>>>>> WOULD CLOSE ON OCTOBER 4 AT 11 A M* >>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Balkar Arya < >>>>>>>>>>> balkara...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Dinesh ji and Gurcharan Ji for making job easy >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>>>>> singh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members >>>>>>>>>>>>> Courtesy Dinesh ji, your job of nominations has been made much >>>>>>>>>>>>> easier. He will upload the forms midnight so that you can start >>>>>>>>>>>>> using it >>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately (or wait for all uploads till 11.00 on October 1). >>>>>>>>>>>>> There will be >>>>>>>>>>>>> two separate forms, one for nominating best photograph of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> month and one >>>>>>>>>>>>> for nominating best set of photographs for the month. This >>>>>>>>>>>>> facility will >>>>>>>>>>>>> remain open till 11.00 a m on October 4, to provide three full >>>>>>>>>>>>> days for >>>>>>>>>>>>> nominations. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *FINAL RULES FOR VOTING WILL BE NOTIFIED IN THE EVENING TODAY >>>>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>>>> *-- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Balkar Arya < >>>>>>>>>>>>> balkara...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes Sir we will participate. a very Good initiative >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> singh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear members >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is time to make your decision for the best photograph >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uploaded during this month, and also the best set of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photographs which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> highlighted the best identifying features of that plant. You >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examine photographs being uploaded in coming days up to 30th of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> September >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and send your nominations to me and Ushadi between October 1 to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioning the category, post number as it appears in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject line. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Each member is allowed two nominations: one each for *Best >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photograph of the month* and *best set of photographs for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the month*. Kindly send these mails to me ( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> singh...@gmail.com) and Ushadi Micromini ( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com) and not to the group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope maximum number of members will participate in this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contest. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09416262964 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>>>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>>>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>>>>>>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>>>>>>>>> 09416262964 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>>>> 09416262964 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>> 09416262964 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >
