I think it is difficult to tell apart male plants of F. indica and F. latifolia. From the leaves and fruits on female plants found around Pune it can be said that Satishji's plant can be F. latifolia. It is unlikely that male plants of F. indica also grow in Pune along with female plants of F. latifolia. Irrespective of the locality these pix can be treated (and post closed) as F. latifolia/indica. Regards, Shrikant
On Aug 25, 2:40 pm, H S <hemsan...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think its F. indica > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Joshi Pankaj <joshi...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > need to local flora....we may corr. to Yadav Sir, > > ...<...sryada...@rediffmail.com....for> > > sryada...@rediffmail.com <...sryada...@rediffmail.com>....for further > > confirmation. > > > *********************************************** > > Dr. Pankaj N. Joshi, Programme Coordinator > > sahjeevan > > 175- Jalaram Society, B/h. Vishwamangal Appt., > > Vijay Nagar, Hospital Road > > Bhuj-Kutch, Gujarat: 370001 (India) > > Phone: 91 2832 251814, Fax: 91 2832 251914, > > Mobile: 9426949523 > > E-mail: joshi.pn.sahjee...@gmail.com > > Office E-mail: sahjee...@gmail.com > > Website:www.sahjeevan.org > > *********************************************** > > > --- On *Tue, 16/8/11, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>* wrote: > > > From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> > > Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:77254] Flacourtia species for ID. > > To: "efloraofindia" <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> > > Cc: le...@rediffmail.com, drsmpha...@gmail.com, tchak...@gmail.com, > > ajinkyagad...@gmail.com, agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in, aparnawat...@gmail.com, > > raanibha...@gmail.com, neha.vind...@gmail.com, rahumu...@gmail.com, > > plumbagozeylan...@gmail.com, mohinamac...@gmail.com, "Vijayasankar Raman" > > <vijay.botan...@gmail.com> > > Date: Tuesday, 16 August, 2011, 6:35 PM > > > Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. > > > Some earlier relevant feedback: > > > “After reading a lot from older posts and literature I understood some > > important points about Flacourtia genus............ > > 1) It now belongs to Salicaceae and previously to Flacourtiaceae. > > 2) The flowers are without petals. Only sepals > > 3) Flowers are unisexual. Fruit is a berry.rather than a capsule as in > > Casearia > > (My pictures are probably showing only male flowers) > > 4) If one sees female flowers one has to look carefully for the stigma and > > style to differentiate between the species. > > 5) There is a lot of confusion between F.indica and F. latifolia. > > 6) Acc. Flora of BSI Mah ; > > Styles absent(stigma sessile)...F.latifolia > > Styles distinct and conspicuous: > > Tomentose young twigs; leaves turning brown on drying .... > > F.montana > > Glabrous young twigs; Leaves not turning brown .... > > F.indica. > > 7)Cooke's Flora doesn't mention F.indica. > > 8) From Cooke's flora. the size of flower is a good additional > > differentiating character. > > > Drupe size of a cherry; scarlet when ripe > > ...............................................................F. Montana > > Drupe size of a plum; purple when > > ripe…………………………………………………………………F.cataphracta > > Drupe size of a pea; > > Stigmas 5-11………………………………………………………………………………………………………….F.Ramontchii > > Stigmas 3-4……………………………………………………………………………………………………………F.latifolia > > 9) In all the above species the thorns do not bear flowers and fruits.Cooke > > mentions about one species > > which bears flowers and fruits on thorns as F.sepiaria > > Now I have to go to the species and check for female flowers; check for the > > young twigs to see whether they are glabrous ortomentose.....hmmmmm > > and *also take some leaves for drying to see whether they turn brown.I > > think I had kept some twigs for 2 days which dried but did not turn brown. > > *Dr Phadke” > > > “This could be a male plant of *Flacourtia ramontchi*. > > We have discussed this earlier also, I think. *Again there is difference > > of opinion about its synonymy with F. indica*. > > Regards > > Vijayasankar Raman” > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: *Satish Phadke* > > <drsmpha...@gmail.com<http://in.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drsmpha...@gmail.com> > > > Date: 23 January 2011 14:52 > > Subject: [efloraofindia:60966] Flacourtia species for ID. > > To: indiantreepix > > <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com<http://in.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegro...> > > > I think this is* Flacourtia latifolia* T.Cooke. Please validate. > > A small tree flowering presently (23 Jan 2010) on Vetal Tekdi Pune. > > Armed with sharp spines. Leaves ovate, obovate alternate with serrate > > margins red petiole. > > Flowers yellow with many stamens. No styles or stigmas visible. Size 0.5 cm > > or so. in small racemes. > > Dr Phadke > > > -- > > With regards, > > J.M.Garg > > (jmga...@gmail.com<http://in.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jmga...@gmail.com> > > ) > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > > The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* & > > eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged > > alphabetically & place-wise): > >http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. 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