Re: [efloraofindia:56722] Grass week: Sorghum halepense from Kashmir

2010-12-11 Thread Mayur Nandikar
Hello is anyone have photograph or details of *Sorghum contraversum *from which we can compare the actual *Sorghum halepense* On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Nayan Singh ns_dungri...@yahoo.co.inwrote: Dear Gurcharan ji your are really great, good collection of Grasses and excellent

[efloraofindia:56725] Grass Week: Ischaemum

2010-12-11 Thread Mayur Nandikar
Hello to all *Ischaemum* *indicum* ( Houtt. )

Re: [efloraofindia:56726] identification no111210sn2

2010-12-11 Thread Neil Soares
Hi,  This is Leucas stelligera.   With regards,     Neil Soares. --- On Sat, 12/11/10, Satish Nikam satish_ni...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Satish Nikam satish_ni...@yahoo.com Subject: [efloraofindia:56721] identification no111210sn2 To: Indiantrees Pics

Re: [efloraofindia:56727] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb40 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Singh ji, Unfortunately I don't have more pictures. It (*S. cernua*) is not mentioned in Concise Flowers of Himalayas by Oleg Polunin Adam Stainton. I am also not satishfied with details pictures as per link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxifraga_cernua

[efloraofindia:56730] Re: Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb4 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Singh ji, I don't think it (Parnassia nubicola) matches with my plant: http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=12419flora_id=2 http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2taxon_id=241000444 Can it be Saxifraga pseudo-pallida (as per details in Concise Flowers of Himalayas

Re: [efloraofindia:56732] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb41 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Singh ji, But that is the only species of Scrophularia mentioned in Concise Flowers of Himalayas by Oleg Polunin Adam Stainton. Is there any species mentioned in FBI ? On 10 December 2010 22:33, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: S. elatior has long exserted filaments and

Re: [efloraofindia:56736] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb33 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread J.M. Garg
*Can it be Esholtzia eriostachya* as per details in Concise Flowers of Himalayas by Oleg Polunin Adam Stainton ? Flowers are yellow as per the book. A few links: http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5taxon_id=200019634 http://www.asianflora.com/Lamiaceae/Elsholtzia-eriostachya.htm On

Re: [efloraofindia:56740] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb46 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread J.M. Garg
Leontopodium stracheyi seems out of range as well as not mentioned in in Concise Flowers of Himalayas by Oleg Polunin Adam Stainton. I think it better matches with *Leontopodium himalayanum* with details in Concise Flowers of Himalayas by Oleg Polunin Adam Stainton with links as below:

Re: [efloraofindia:56741] Grass Week - Arthraxon quartinianus

2010-12-11 Thread tanay bose
I dont know much grasses but but I am very sure this is Arthraxon quartinianus Tanay On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Nayan Singh ns_dungri...@yahoo.co.inwrote: Photographed in Pench Tiger Reserve on 14-10-2007, I think it is Arthraxon quartinianus, Please confirm the ID Thanks and regards

Re: [efloraofindia:56743] Grass Week: Jansenella

2010-12-11 Thread tanay bose
Ritesh Ji i appreciate you photos of this unique graa but sadly I couldn't open the pdf document the it gives the error message Tanay On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Mayur Nandikar mayurnandi...@gmail.comwrote: Hello to all Newly described species in *Rheedea* *Jansenella neglecta *S.R.

Re: [efloraofindia:56744] identification no111210sn2

2010-12-11 Thread tanay bose
Leucas stelligera.first seen in panchmari tanay On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is Leucas stelligera. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Sat, 12/11/10, Satish Nikam satish_ni...@yahoo.com* wrote:

Re: [efloraofindia:56745] Grass Week : Iseilema prostratum

2010-12-11 Thread tanay bose
Nice catch information tanay On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: Protologue attached. Pankaj On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Nayan Singh ns_dungri...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Iseilema prostratum, a small grass form Pench tiger Reserve. thanks Nayan.

Re: [efloraofindia:56746] Grasses week- Oplismenus

2010-12-11 Thread tanay bose
Is it *Oplismenus burmannii* (Retz.) P. Beauv.? Tanay On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 5:38 AM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote: Amazing grasses week going on. Great photography, some grasses resembling windmills others beating beautiful flowers. I am sure a lot of us will feel far more

Re: [efloraofindia:56750] Grass Week - Arthraxon quartinianus

2010-12-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Thanks Nayan ji for so many interesting grasses. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sat, Dec 11,

Re: [efloraofindia:56751] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb46 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Garg ji May be you are right -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 5:59 AM,

Re: [efloraofindia:56753] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb41 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Garg ji There are eight species in Checklist of Nepal plants. Though not included in that, but Pennell clearly mentions that the species is related to S. elatior in which stamens are far exserted. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi,

[efloraofindia:56754] Re: Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb4 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Garg ji May be you are right, there seem to be more than 5 stamens in your photographs. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089

Re: [efloraofindia:56755] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb40 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Garg ji I wanted to check aerial bulbils in your plant, that is why I asked for more photographs. The few leaves appear 3-lobed like that species, but aerial bulbils are distinctive. Otherwise S. sibirica remains the best match. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB

Re: [efloraofindia:56757] Plant for ID-111210MN

2010-12-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Seems like Elettaria cardamomum to me. Pankaj On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:35 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, please help to id this Plant. Regards, Mani. Date/Time 5.12.2010    10 a.m. Location- Place, Altitude, GP Ovalekar Wadi Butterfly Garden, Thane.

Re: [efloraofindia:56758] Grass week: Setaria viridis from Kashmir

2010-12-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Setaria viridis (L.) P.Beauv. Ess. Agrostogr. 51. 1812 Basionym: Panicum viride L. Syst. Nat., ed. 10. 2: 870. 1759. Type: Lectotype - Browne, Herb. Linn. No. 80.12 (LINN) Regards Pankaj On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Setaria viridis (Linn.) P.

Re: [efloraofindia:56767] grass week :: NON-NATIVE, GARDEN :: Poaceae » Bambusa ventricosa

2010-12-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Beautiful pics. Thanks for sharing. Bambusa ventricosa McClure Lingnan Sci. J. 17: 57. 1938. Pankaj On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: Poaceae (formerly and a.k.a. Gramineae) » Bambusa ventricosa bam-BOO-suh -- a name for bamboo; an erroneous

Re: [efloraofindia:56769] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb40 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
How about Saxifraga asarifolia!! Pankaj On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Garg ji I wanted to check aerial bulbils in your plant, that is why I asked for more photographs. The few leaves appear 3-lobed like that species, but aerial bulbils are

Re: [efloraofindia:56770] Grass Week: Jansenella

2010-12-11 Thread tanay bose
Thanks for the repost pdf is working fine tanay On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Mayur Nandikar mayurnandi...@gmail.comwrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Mayur Nandikar mayurnandi...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:56724] Grass

Re: [efloraofindia:56771] Plant for ID-111210MN

2010-12-11 Thread tanay bose
Yes Elettaria cardamomum commonly known as big Cardamom Tanay On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: Seems like Elettaria cardamomum to me. Pankaj On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:35 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, please help to

[efloraofindia:56772] Re: Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb4 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
This can be Parnassia palustris? Pankaj On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Garg ji May be you are right, there seem to be more than 5 stamens in your photographs. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired  Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University

Re: [efloraofindia:56773] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb41 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
If I look at the keys in Flowers of Himalaya, the key says, Stamens 4, corolla irregular, not two lipped - Digitalis, Ellisiphyllum, Hemiphragma, Picrorhiza. Corolla two lipped - Scrophularia, Mimulus, Lindenbergia, Oreosolon, Euphrasia Frankly, to me this doesnt look like a two lipped corolla!!!

Re: [efloraofindia:56774] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb46 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
To me it looks more close to Leontopodium jacotianum! Pankaj On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Garg ji May be you are right -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired  Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand

Re: [efloraofindia:56775] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb41 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
It does look 2-lipped, but more than that I am confused about white structure inside green corolla. What could it be? -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297

Re: [efloraofindia:56776] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb41 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
I thought those are anthers protruding out. Pankaj On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: It does look 2-lipped, but more than that I am confused about white structure inside green corolla. What could it be? -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired  Associate

Re: [efloraofindia:56777] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb41 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
In second pic, the flower on the left hand side, I wouldnt call it bi-lipped?? Are you sure?? Pankaj On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: I thought those are anthers protruding out. Pankaj On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Gurcharan Singh

[efloraofindia:56778] Re: Grass Week: Jansenella

2010-12-11 Thread Dr Pankaj Kumar
Jansenella neglecta S.R.Yadav , Chivalkar Gosavi Rheedea 20(1): 39 (-42; figs. 1-2). 2010. Yes there is problem in opening the pdf file. Someone told me that Rheedea is now online. Where? Pankaj On Dec 11, 5:24 pm, Mayur Nandikar mayurnandi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to all Newly described

Re: [efloraofindia:56779] Re: Grass Week: Jansenella

2010-12-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Sorry, I didnt see the second pdf. Yes it is working. Thanks for sharing. Pankaj On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Jansenella neglecta S.R.Yadav , Chivalkar Gosavi Rheedea 20(1): 39 (-42; figs. 1-2). 2010. Yes there is problem in opening the pdf

Re: [efloraofindia:56780] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb41 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
I was talking about white petal like structure just coming out below upper most corolla (green) lobe. I can't identify it. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone:

Re: [efloraofindia:56782] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb46 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
A lot number of species have been established after FBI, and unless we have a reliable key of Himalayan species, it may be difficult. L. jacotiatum has stolons (not found in L. himalayanum/stracheyi), and unless we have photographs of basal branches, it may be difficult from photographs. --

Re: [efloraofindia:56783] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb41 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Yes, I am talking about that only, I think those are anther lobes. Such lobes protrude out in many species of Scrophularia. Pankaj On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: I was talking about white petal like structure just coming out below upper most corolla

Re: [efloraofindia:56784] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb40 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread Gurcharan Singh
S. asarifolia has more lobes (7-13) than even S. sibirica (5-7). -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

Re: [efloraofindia:56785] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb46 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Thanks a lot for clarifications. Regards Pankaj On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: A lot number of species have been established after FBI, and unless we have a reliable key  of Himalayan species, it may be difficult. L. jacotiatum has stolons (not

Re: [efloraofindia:56786] grass week :: NON-NATIVE, GARDEN :: Poaceae » Bambusa ventricosa

2010-12-11 Thread mani nair
Excellent photo. Thanks for sharing, Mani. On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: Beautiful pics. Thanks for sharing. Bambusa ventricosa McClure Lingnan Sci. J. 17: 57. 1938. Pankaj On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com

Re: [efloraofindia:56788] Grass Week : Perotis indica

2010-12-11 Thread tanay bose
Thanks Nayan ji for the post the inflorescence is quite unique Tanay On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Nayan Singh ns_dungri...@yahoo.co.inwrote: Perotis indica from Pench Tiger Reserve Seoni, Pix taken on 23-8-2006. thanks Nayan. N.S.Dungriyal IFS Chief

[efloraofindia:56793] Re: Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb4 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Pankaj ji, Parnassia palustris looks different as per links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parnassia_palustris http://www.plant-identification.co.uk/skye/parnassiaceae/parnassia-palustris.htm http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Parnassia_palustris On 12 December 2010 00:54, Pankaj Kumar

Re: [efloraofindia:56795] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb6 for Id- JM

2010-12-11 Thread J.M. Garg
I checked up others species in Concise Flowers of Himalayas by Oleg Polunin Adam Stainton like Bistorta amplexicaulis, B. macrophylla B. vaccinifolia. They also don't match up. On 8 December 2010 12:01, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Resurfacing again for ID Earlier feedback

Re: [efloraofindia:56796] Grass Week : Echinochloa colona

2010-12-11 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Thanks for sharing, Nayan ji. Once it was under cultivation. Hence it is one of the lost crops of India. Said to be problematic weed in rice fields. Valuable Traditional Medicine. Much in demand specially after declaration that Indian is Diabetes capital of the world. Having unique Healing

Re: [efloraofindia:56797] grass week: identification no121110sn 1

2010-12-11 Thread tanay bose
*Eragrostis tenella?* ***Tanay * On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Satish Nikam satish_ni...@yahoo.comwrote: sir, kindly identify this grass found at my farm.I have 3 photos of these. date/time:oct./dec.10 location:3000ft.above sealevel,mulshi,pune. habitat:wild plant habitat:...

Re: [efloraofindia:56798] Grass Week : Echinochloa colona

2010-12-11 Thread Nayan Singh
Thanks Pankaj ji for your detail information on its medicinal uses. Nayan. ..N.S.Dungriyal IFS Chief Conservator of Forests and Field Director Satpura Tiger Reserve Hoshangabad M.P. 09424792100 From: Pankaj Oudhia