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[efloraofindia:75466] Re: Giant Jewel Beetle feeding on Tendu leaves

2011-07-30 Thread Ushadi micromini

Thanks Gibyfor the lesson...  your language tone sounds
 like you just put me in my place,  good for you...
you must now be at peace...
and may be we can now be friendly

Usha di
==



On Jul 30, 11:09 am, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Geeta,

 There is only one leaf belong to Dioscorea that too only in the first
 picture. The main plant in the pictures is Diospyros melanoxylon
 leaves as Neil ji mentioned.
 One more interesting point I would like to mention here that recently
 a scientist in ATREE Bangalore fond out that leaves of Nothapodytes
 nimmoniana is been eaten by a

 Dear Ushadi,

 That is their nature not only insects most of the animals do so. What
 do a domestic cow do? Who cleans its surroundings? are they concerned
 about the same? In forest/nature, animals move around and they don't
 concerned about the cleanliness of the surroundings, caused by them.
 But there is system that works on it, such as dung beetles on dungs of
 mammals and in no time the area gets cleaned.  Fungus degrades the
 wastes or decaying/dead substances. Rain washes away the surroundings
 of insects and any disturbance of the plant (as what you see in the
 picture) would help to drop down all such kind of foreign materials.

 In nature there is a system (or several systems) that works well to
 keep up the momentum. It is we who don't work as per the rules of
 nature hence need to work on each and every thing that we do.

 Regards,
 Giby

 On Jul 30, 5:54 am, Geeta rgeet...@gmail.com wrote:

  Looks like Dioscorea--possibly D. bulbifera.

  On Jul 30, 5:30 am, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   and in pic 1, what is the heart shaped leaf peering down at the top?
   interesting venatiions...
   seems to be  a vine growing up on the tendu...
   Udsha di
   ===

   On Jul 29, 10:15 pm, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi,
  Thought this might be interesting…..
 
   Photographed this Giant Jewel Beetle [a Sternocera sp. possibly 
S.chrysis] at my farm last weekend gorging on Tendu [Diospyros 
melanoxylon] leaves. After extracting the juices it would discard the 
fibrous pellets.
   Sending a few photographs.
   With regards,
  Neil Soares.

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Re: [efloraofindia:75472] Re: Giant Jewel Beetle feeding on Tendu leaves

2011-07-30 Thread ushadi Micromini

Dear Neil: Thanks for sharing...
are these VINES volunteers or did you transplant/ plant 'em by design?
I would not know which is which... could you tell me, please?
DOES YOUR AIR POTATO PLANT DEVELOP the typical potaoes?
Have ever eaten them?

I became interested in Dioscorea... as a tribe...while studying
ethnobotany of ne states of india including Assam, Bengal,
Tripura Nagaland etc...the genus is of utmost importance as
food to natives of ne hill states of Indiaas tubers..leaves
are all eaten, often as staples...

But even before that, while studying western herbal medicine,.
became interested in Dioscorea .as sources of steroid diosgenin...
which in hands of industry is base for making synthetic
hormones but of cource you knew that.. and that one leaf
sort of reminded me of something I seen somewhere, there by
that initial question

THE MORE MORE I READ ABOUT BOTANY OF INDIA..
ITS BECOMING CLEARER BY THE DAY THAT THE
WESTERN GHATS HAVE A VERY DIVERSE and ..
HIGHLY EVOLVED BOTANICAL MIX... AND MANY
THINGS NOT IN OUR COLLECTIVE HORTICULTURAL
HABITS REMAIN TO BE DISCOVERED ANEW , ESP
WHEN WE CAN ALL BE ARMED WITH RECORDERS
AND DIGITAL CAMERAS...AND TALK TO EACH OTHER
SO RAPIDLY..!!! EXPONENTIALLY INCREASING OUR
COLLECTIVE KNOWLEDGE

Regards,
Usha di
==

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote:

Hi,
The Dioscorea bulbifera was just an incidental finding. Please check these
photographs where there are at least 6 climbers per frame. They are all
taken at my farm at Shahapur.
With regards,
Neil Soares.

--- On *Sat, 7/30/11, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com* wrote:

From: Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:75417] Re: Giant Jewel Beetle feeding on Tendu
leaves
To: Geeta rgeet...@gmail.com
Cc: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com,
microminipho...@gmail.com
Date: Saturday, July 30, 2011, 11:39 AM

Dear Geeta,

There is only one leaf belong to Dioscorea that too only in the first
picture. The main plant in the pictures is Diospyros melanoxylon
leaves as Neil ji mentioned.
One more interesting point I would like to mention here that recently
a scientist in ATREE Bangalore fond out that leaves of Nothapodytes
nimmoniana is been eaten by a

Dear Ushadi,

That is their nature not only insects most of the animals do so. What
do a domestic cow do? Who cleans its surroundings? are they concerned
about the same? In forest/nature, animals move around and they don't
concerned about the cleanliness of the surroundings, caused by them.
But there is system that works on it, such as dung beetles on dungs of
mammals and in no time the area gets cleaned. Fungus degrades the
wastes or decaying/dead substances. Rain washes away the surroundings
of insects and any disturbance of the plant (as what you see in the
picture) would help to drop down all such kind of foreign materials.

In nature there is a system (or several systems) that works well to
keep up the momentum. It is we who don't work as per the rules of
nature hence need to work on each and every thing that we do.

Regards,
Giby

On Jul 30, 5:54 am, Geeta
rgeet...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rgeet...@gmail.com
wrote:
Looks like Dioscorea--possibly D. bulbifera.

On Jul 30, 5:30 am, Ushadi micromini
microminipho...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=microminipho...@gmail.com

wrote:

and in pic 1, what is the heart shaped leaf peering down at the top?
interesting venatiions...
seems to be a vine growing up on the tendu...
Udsha di
===

On Jul 29, 10:15 pm, Neil Soares
drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Hi,
Thought this might be interesting…..

Photographed this Giant Jewel Beetle [a Sternocera sp. possibly
S.chrysis] at my farm last weekend gorging on Tendu [Diospyros melanoxylon]
leaves. After extracting the juices it would discard the fibrous pellets.
Sending a few photographs.
With regards,
Neil Soares.

Giant Jewel Beetle on Tendu 1.jpg
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[efloraofindia:75485] Re: Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) Week: August 1 to 7, 2011

2011-07-31 Thread Ushadi micromini

Looking forward to this week...
I am also hoping that besides the usual culinary and decorative
Apiaceae
plants, we will be privy to seeing some Unusual  not so common, and
only to be seen in
the Himalayas type of Umbellifers...

Good luck.
Usha di
==

On Jul 30, 8:20 pm, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Friends
 We will have our next Plant Week starting from Monday, August 1 to Sunday,
 August 7, 2011. Incidently first Monday falls right on first in the month of
 August. Members are requested to upload members of this family both
 identified as well those meant for ID. The subject line for all mails
 pertaining to this family during the Week should start with Apiaceae
 (Umbelliferae) Week:.

 Here is the list of episodes already covered and those proposed for future

 November, 2010: Apocynaceae (Dr. Balkar Arya)
 December: Poaceae (Dr. Ritesh Kumar Choudhary
 January, 2011: Fruits and Vegetables (Dinesh Valke)
 February: Commelinales and Zingiberales (Dr. Mayur Nandikar)
 March: Euphorbiaceae  (Dr. Rashida Atthar)
 April: Solanaceae (Dr. Gurcharan Singh)
 May: Ranunculaceae (Dr. Nidhan Singh)
 June: Acanthaceae (Dr. Gurcharan Singh)
 July: Lamiaceae (Dr. Gurcharan Singh)
 August: Apiaceae
 September: Malvaceae (Dr. Balkar Singh)
 October: Rosaceae

 Your suggestions please!
 You may please volunteer to coordinate the episode of your choice

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

[efloraofindia:75489] Re: THESPESIA POPULNEA

2011-07-31 Thread Ushadi micromini

Very nice...
medicinal value...
in Gujarati called PARAS PIPLO પારસ  પીપળો.

Usha di

=
PS did you get to photograph the seeds before planting?
could you please share those pics?
Thanks
===


On Jul 30, 7:58 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 sharing pics of
 Thespesia populnea
 *seeds were kindly provided by Sundararaman Ji
 *
 *growing in my College campus and ready for transplantation
 *



 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear Sir
  I sowed about half seeds out of them and about 12 plants i got nw they are
  about 2 ft to 3 ft high and i am preparing 3 pits to plant some of these
  there. 4-5 plants are in demand from my friends. rest of the seeds i shall
  be showing in the month of september. I will send u snaps of the plants
  growing in my college tommarrow
  again thanks for providing an opportunity to have this rare plant in this
  area especially in my college.

  On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:00 AM, M. Sundararaman 
  m_sundarara...@rediffmail.com wrote:

  Dear dr Arya,
  Kindly recall that i sent 200 Seeds of Thespesia Populnea.Have you planted
  them? What are the results? Regards

  M. Sundararaman Tel# 044--24461660;SINDHUR SEA PRINCESS
  9 Coastal Road ., BESANT NAGAR; CHENNAI 600090
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  Founder of FRIENDS OF NATURE--an NGO dedicated to TREE-PLANTING in Rural
  India Pl contact
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  --
  Regards

  Dr Balkar Singh
  Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
  Arya P G College, Panipat
  Haryana-132103
  09416262964

 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

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[efloraofindia:75490] Re: Carica papaya from Arya PG College Campus

2011-07-31 Thread Ushadi micromini


Non-hybridized type?
Native?
if yes.. would like to have a few seeds...

thanks
Usha di
=
On Jul 30, 7:52 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All
 Carica papaya
 Family: Caricaceae
 From garden Of My College Campus
 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

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[efloraofindia:75495] Re: Malpighia coccigera from Arya PG College Campus

2011-07-31 Thread Ushadi micromini

Wonderful..
what's the history of this plant in India?

Usha di
==






On Jul 30, 7:49 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all
 Malpighia coccigera a shrub used as Hedge in gardens
 Family: Malpighiaceae

 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

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Re: [efloraofindia:75556] Re: Malpighia coccigera from Arya PG College Campus

2011-07-31 Thread ushadi Micromini

Dear Balkar ji: I asked because I recently saw it at my local small nursery
stall , had profuse small white flowers that looked like white version of
flowers of the Barbados cherry, that was recently gifted to me..  so bought
it and brought it home... only to puzzle over it... leaves were small
versions of holly, yet... googling for various holly leafed plants +
adjectives I could think of,   didn't produce any meaningful result over
several days , (ie google failed, esp since it has become politicized and
changed its paradigms for search engines..) , so I gave it a rest.. hoping
some thing would stir in the universe to give me a HINT

THEN your thread came up do you know how exciting it is for a
non-botanist hell bent on proper diagnosis to find not only helpful clues
but the NAME of the plant itself

I will post the pictures of my plant and comparisons I had done  later in
the week...
In the mean time ... thank you for solving one of my ID questions...  once I
had the name...Toptropical came up... but straight googling did not
originally...

Moral of the story: armchair botany only goes so far... one needs deeper
knowledge... I will need to cultivate it... quickly...

Usha di
===
PS ONE MORE QUESTION I came up with pictures on the net of Malphigia
coccigera with enormous numbers of red berries, even when trained as
Bonsai... but my plant does not have berries... all flowers fell off and now
no cherries...
SO is there a male vs female variety of this plant?






On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:

 Usha Ji
 I saw this plant first time in cactus Park Panchkula. then i could find
 this in a Nursery in Panipat and planted in my college. I do not know
 anything about its history at present searching!!! if found wiil let u know
 all

 On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Ushadi micromini 
 microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wonderful..
 what's the history of this plant in India?

 Usha di
 ==






 On Jul 30, 7:49 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear all
  Malpighia coccigera a shrub used as Hedge in gardens
  Family: Malpighiaceae
 
  --
  Regards
 
  Dr Balkar Singh
  Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
  Arya P G College, Panipat
  Haryana-132103
  09416262964
 
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 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

[efloraofindia:75557] Re: Manilkara hexandra

2011-07-31 Thread Ushadi micromini

No, Madhuriji, it not mimusops elengi... in the last three months we
had several discussions..

Although at first glance the flowers do remind one of a family
resemblance to Bakul...
but look closely, the anatomy is very different


PRAVINJI: I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT THE LEAVGES AND THE TRUNK BARK
LOOKS LIKE...
and may be even the whole tree...

thanks,
Ushadi
=


On Jul 31, 10:20 pm, Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.com wrote:
 isnt it Bakul?
 madhuri

 --- On Sun, 31/7/11, Pravin Kawale kawale.pra...@gmail.com wrote:

  From: Pravin Kawale kawale.pra...@gmail.com
  Subject: [efloraofindia:75468] Manilkara hexandra
  To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
  Date: Sunday, 31 July, 2011, 9:59 AM
  Hi,
  Yesterday at Kanakeshawar,Alibag
  Manilkara hexandra
  Marathi names : khirni,Rayan,Rajan
  Regards

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  DSC07891.JPG
  DSC07893.JPG
  DSC07892.JPG

  These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google.
  Try it out here:http://picasa.google.com/

[efloraofindia:75559] Re: Lindernia oppositifolia from Iruppu, Kodagu, Karnataka

2011-07-31 Thread Ushadi micromini

Nice pictures...
Is this a recent ...ie last 60 years' weed or has it always been on
this subcontinent?

I found recent reports  from Nepal...
but no historical paper...
Thanks
Usha di..
===


On Aug 1, 7:00 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice series of pics Shivaprakash Ji

 On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote:



  Lindernia sp. of Linderniaceae family. Would you please share the
  reference for L. oppositifolia.

  Thanks and Regards,
  Giby

  On Jul 31, 5:16 pm, shivaprakash adavanne adava...@gmail.com wrote:
   hello,
   please find attached few photos of Lindernia oppositifolia spread over
   in paddyfield (30 07 30) in Iruppu area, Kodagu, Karnataka

   regards.

   a.shivaprakash

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 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

[efloraofindia:75562] Re: Shrub No.3 for ID plz.

2011-07-31 Thread Ushadi micromini

DEAR ALL
I SECOND TANAY IN THIS WRITE UP.

Giby ji: TAKE CARE WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT
NOT nice to keep being churlish and telling people off...
You have a lot of knowledge... my Grand ma used to say as the
mango tree gets full of fruits it bows down more and more...

so it is with human beings...as the knowledge increases,
truly increases, we should become more humble...

Please take your cues from Gurucharanji and Garg ji and Dinesh Valke
ji ..
.Dr. Vijayashankar Raman et al..
They may correct us from time to time, but they NEVER TELL US OFF.

A group like this is only as good as it gets because of the
Knowledge base of its members and the members' collegiality,
congeniality and friendships that develop among its members

PLEASE ALL, LETS KEEP IT THAT WAY...
Regards,
Usha di
===

On Jul 31, 8:03 pm, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Giby Ji.
I appreciate and understand that all the botanist always wants
the best information from the plant around them to get it
identified if not they feel frustrated. But we should also consider
that most of the members in our group are non-botanist and have
very little ideas about the technical morphological complexities
in the plant. Though some non botanist members have great
knowledge about such technical terminologies but still the majority
stays unaware of it. Hence I think you can make such non-botanist
members aware of what we actually expect from them in a more
calm and refined manner rather getting too excited and robust. So that
next time they can try to record the data from the field. I have
no intentions
to hurt you as you are one an assets in your group hence I
believe you will take my words sporting without any hard feelings.

Thanks
Tanay

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote:

Dear all,

I repeatedly inform all who post pictures for id that please provide
supporting information along with pictures. Information along with
pictures would certainly ease the id process. In the case of the
picture in this post we are not sure what is the habit of this plant.
Non of the leaves are clearly visible in the picture. It is not clear
whether there are thorns on the stem of this plant. It is not very
clear that whether leaves are opposite or alternate. Not clear about
the size of plant, leaf, flower etc. The number of lobs in the corolla
is also crucial that is not clear. The person who take the picture
might know all these things. If you provide such information it would
be better to confirm the species. Making assumptions might lead to
wrong id. Any way, we take several minutes to hours (sometimes) to id
a plant. When take pictures please take more than one picture from
different angle so as to include more details in one snap. When you
download the pictures select the one that has maximum information to
post for id.
You may please visit Dinesh ji's photos @http://www.flickr.com/photos/
dinesh_valke/ to have an idea on this aspect.

Therefore, I request all posters in this group to kindly take little
bit of extra effort/time to provide necessary information (please see
the format to post pictures for id). This not only would help us in id
the plant but also help those who want to learn the species in
detail.

Regards,
Giby

On Jul 31, 11:53 am, Mymoon Moghul mogh...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello
Please help with the ID. All taken in Chennai, South India in the month
of
july.

Thanks
regards
Mymoon

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[efloraofindia:75563] Re: Shrub No.3 for ID plz. AND HOW TO BEHAVE

2011-07-31 Thread Ushadi micromini

Thanks
Tanay

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote:

Dear all,

Regards,
Giby

On Jul 31, 11:53 am, Mymoon Moghul mogh...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello
Please help with the ID. All taken in Chennai, South India in the month
of
july.

Thanks
regards
Mymoon

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Re: [efloraofindia:75630] Re: Malpighia coccigera from Arya PG College Campus

2011-08-01 Thread ushadi Micromini

Yes Balkar ji: its joyous to id  and then research all about a plant that
interests you
or challenges you... I love the chase..  and knowing that someday  I may yet
know a little something about a subject...

Thanks
Usha di
===

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes Usha ji
 basically i was a Biotechnologist but interest in taxonomy since my
 childhood again pulled in this vast amazing world of Plants after getting
 regular job. Now i daily visit any Nursery or any other area rich in
 vegetation to get some new and interesting. Being Horticulture Incharge of
 My College, now i have an opportunity to purchase every plant i like either
 costly or cheap. Much Credit of this interest goes to efloraindia and
 especially some persons associated with this group Like Gurcharan ji, Garg
 Ji,  Pankaj Ji Tanay, Dinesh Ji and many more names who in my initial days
 helped and encouraged me one or the either way. Every time i get an id for a
 new plant for me, i feel so joyous !!!.

 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:20 AM, ushadi Micromini 
 microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Balkar ji: I asked because I recently saw it at my local small
 nursery stall , had profuse small white flowers that looked like white
 version of flowers of the Barbados cherry, that was recently gifted to me..
 so bought it and brought it home... only to puzzle over it... leaves were
 small versions of holly, yet... googling for various holly leafed plants +
 adjectives I could think of,   didn't produce any meaningful result over
 several days , (ie google failed, esp since it has become politicized and
 changed its paradigms for search engines..) , so I gave it a rest.. hoping
 some thing would stir in the universe to give me a HINT

 THEN your thread came up do you know how exciting it is for a
 non-botanist hell bent on proper diagnosis to find not only helpful clues
 but the NAME of the plant itself

 I will post the pictures of my plant and comparisons I had done  later in
 the week...
 In the mean time ... thank you for solving one of my ID questions...  once
 I had the name...Toptropical came up... but straight googling did not
 originally...

 Moral of the story: armchair botany only goes so far... one needs deeper
 knowledge... I will need to cultivate it... quickly...

 Usha di
 ===
 PS ONE MORE QUESTION I came up with pictures on the net of Malphigia
 coccigera with enormous numbers of red berries, even when trained as
 Bonsai... but my plant does not have berries... all flowers fell off and now
 no cherries...
 SO is there a male vs female variety of this plant?

 





 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:

 Usha Ji
 I saw this plant first time in cactus Park Panchkula. then i could find
 this in a Nursery in Panipat and planted in my college. I do not know
 anything about its history at present searching!!! if found wiil let u know
 all

 On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Ushadi micromini 
 microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wonderful..
 what's the history of this plant in India?

 Usha di
 ==






 On Jul 30, 7:49 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear all
  Malpighia coccigera a shrub used as Hedge in gardens
  Family: Malpighiaceae
 
  --
  Regards
 
  Dr Balkar Singh
  Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
  Arya P G College, Panipat
  Haryana-132103
  09416262964
 
   Malpighia coccigera (1)Sm.JPG
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   Malpighia coccigera (4)Sm.JPG
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 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964





 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

[efloraofindia:75634] Re: Flora of Haryana-Phoenix sylvestris from roadside area Karnal

2011-08-01 Thread Ushadi micromini

Wonderful, here in Bengal we are very very fond of Khejurer gud...
 the gud made from  date palm  juice...
and sandesh and rasagullas made with the newly made khejurer gud
is  much prized and appreciated , we always look forward to it...
its only produced in winter, which is good since then it stays in
lumps,
 otherwise in summer it melts in heat and high humidity...

and dates themselves provide much needed sugar, roughage,
and micronutrients like   calcium, magnesium and potassium...
phosphorous ...among other lesser quantities ...

Love it...
Usha di




On Aug 1, 3:38 pm, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All
 *Phoenix sylvestris* from roadside area Karnal
 tree about 15 ft high wild
 *Family:* *Arecaceae* (Palm family)

 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

  Phoenix sylvestris (1).JPG
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[efloraofindia:75638] Re: Shrub No.3 for ID plz. AND HOW TO BEHAVE

2011-08-01 Thread Ushadi micromini

Yes this is something we should all copy paste in a word file, print
it and keep it handy...
Thanks, Gurucharan ji, really aprreciate it... and all you do for this
group.
Thanks
Usha di

===

On Aug 1, 9:00 am, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ushadi
 We missed your valuable comments. I am, however, becoming a fan of Tanay,
 seeing his pace of evolution and attainment of maturity since he joined the
 group. This group is known for high level of cordiality and fellowness.
     We have often been writing to new members to provide relevant
 information as per the prescribed format (which every person botanist or
 non-botanist can provide). True it is not possible for non-botanists to
 provide technical details but as I have been writing frequently, besides the
 format if mail is sent with some properly taken photographs, experts may be
 able to decifer details:

 1. A photograph of the twig showing insertion of leaves, inflorescence, with
 one or more leaves in good view.
 2. Side view close up of flower showing insertion of flower (if close up is
 properly taken, experts can study bract, pedicel, calyx, corolla
     from this).
 3. Top view close up of flower to show stamens and carpels.
 4. A photograph of fruit is always a bonus.

 With these photographs, place, altitude, date of photography, habit and
 habitat information, the job of the experts would be much more easier.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Ushadi micromini
 microminipho...@gmail.comwrote:



  On Jul 31, 8:03 pm, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi Giby Ji.
   I appreciate and understand that all the botanist always wants
   the best information from the plant around them to get it
   identified if not they feel frustrated. But we should also consider
   that most of the members in our group are non-botanist and have
   very little ideas about the technical morphological complexities
   in the plant. Though some non botanist members have great
   knowledge about such technical terminologies but still the majority
   stays unaware of it. Hence I think you can  make such non-botanist
   members aware of what we actually expect from them in a more
   calm and refined manner rather getting too excited and robust. So that
   next time they can try to record the data from the field. I have
   no intentions
   to hurt you as you are one an assets in your group hence I
   believe you will take my words sporting without any hard feelings.

   Thanks
   Tanay

   On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com
  wrote:

Dear all,

I repeatedly inform all who post pictures for id that please provide
supporting information along with pictures. Information along with
pictures would certainly ease the id process. In the case of the
picture in this post we are not sure what is the habit of this plant.
Non of the leaves are clearly visible in the picture. It is not clear
whether there are thorns on the stem of this plant. It is not very
clear that whether leaves are opposite or alternate. Not clear about
the size of plant, leaf, flower etc. The number of lobs in the corolla
is also crucial that is not clear. The person who take the picture
might know all these things. If you provide such information it would
be better to confirm the species. Making assumptions might lead to
wrong id. Any way, we take several minutes to hours (sometimes) to id
a plant. When take pictures please take more than one picture from
different angle so as to include more details in one snap. When you
download the pictures select the one that has maximum information to
post for id.
You may please visit Dinesh ji's photos @http://www.flickr.com/photos/
dinesh_valke/ to have an idea on this aspect.

Therefore, I request all posters in this group to kindly take little
bit of extra effort/time to provide necessary information (please see
the format to post pictures for id). This not only would help us in id
the plant but also help those who want to learn the species in
detail.

Regards,
Giby

On Jul 31, 11:53 am, Mymoon Moghul mogh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello
 Please help with the ID. All taken in Chennai, South India in the
  month
of
 july.

 Thanks
 regards
 Mymoon

  ID-3.JPG
 133KViewDownload

   --
   *Tanay Bose*
   Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
   Department of Botany.
   University of British Columbia .
   3529-6270 University Blvd.
   Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
   Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
              604-822-2019 (Lab)
              604-822-6089  (Fax)
   ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
   *Webpages:*
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people

[efloraofindia:75644] Re: Shrub No.3 for ID plz.

2011-08-01 Thread Ushadi micromini


gee gosh... i did not change the subject line since dr singh had
corrected it...
we should go back to the original wordings... job is done ...
usha di


On Aug 1, 8:35 pm, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes this is something we should all copy paste in a word file, print
 it and keep it handy...
 Thanks, Gurucharan ji, really aprreciate it... and all you do for this
 group.
 Thanks
 Usha di

 ===

 On Aug 1, 9:00 am, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

  Ushadi
  We missed your valuable comments. I am, however, becoming a fan of Tanay,
  seeing his pace of evolution and attainment of maturity since he joined the
  group. This group is known for high level of cordiality and fellowness.
      We have often been writing to new members to provide relevant
  information as per the prescribed format (which every person botanist or
  non-botanist can provide). True it is not possible for non-botanists to
  provide technical details but as I have been writing frequently, besides the
  format if mail is sent with some properly taken photographs, experts may be
  able to decifer details:

  1. A photograph of the twig showing insertion of leaves, inflorescence, with
  one or more leaves in good view.
  2. Side view close up of flower showing insertion of flower (if close up is
  properly taken, experts can study bract, pedicel, calyx, corolla
      from this).
  3. Top view close up of flower to show stamens and carpels.
  4. A photograph of fruit is always a bonus.

  With these photographs, place, altitude, date of photography, habit and
  habitat information, the job of the experts would be much more easier.

  --
  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
  Retired  Associate Professor
  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

  On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Ushadi micromini
  microminipho...@gmail.comwrote:

   On Jul 31, 8:03 pm, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Giby Ji.
I appreciate and understand that all the botanist always wants
the best information from the plant around them to get it
identified if not they feel frustrated. But we should also consider
that most of the members in our group are non-botanist and have
very little ideas about the technical morphological complexities
in the plant. Though some non botanist members have great
knowledge about such technical terminologies but still the majority
stays unaware of it. Hence I think you can  make such non-botanist
members aware of what we actually expect from them in a more
calm and refined manner rather getting too excited and robust. So that
next time they can try to record the data from the field. I have
no intentions
to hurt you as you are one an assets in your group hence I
believe you will take my words sporting without any hard feelings.

Thanks
Tanay

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com
   wrote:

 Dear all,

 I repeatedly inform all who post pictures for id that please provide
 supporting information along with pictures. Information along with
 pictures would certainly ease the id process. In the case of the
 picture in this post we are not sure what is the habit of this plant.
 Non of the leaves are clearly visible in the picture. It is not clear
 whether there are thorns on the stem of this plant. It is not very
 clear that whether leaves are opposite or alternate. Not clear about
 the size of plant, leaf, flower etc. The number of lobs in the corolla
 is also crucial that is not clear. The person who take the picture
 might know all these things. If you provide such information it would
 be better to confirm the species. Making assumptions might lead to
 wrong id. Any way, we take several minutes to hours (sometimes) to id
 a plant. When take pictures please take more than one picture from
 different angle so as to include more details in one snap. When you
 download the pictures select the one that has maximum information to
 post for id.
 You may please visit Dinesh ji's photos @http://www.flickr.com/photos/
 dinesh_valke/ to have an idea on this aspect.

 Therefore, I request all posters in this group to kindly take little
 bit of extra effort/time to provide necessary information (please see
 the format to post pictures for id). This not only would help us in id
 the plant but also help those who want to learn the species in
 detail.

 Regards,
 Giby

 On Jul 31, 11:53 am, Mymoon Moghul mogh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello
  Please help with the ID. All taken in Chennai, South India in the
   month
 of
  july.

  Thanks
  regards
  Mymoon

   ID-3.JPG
  133KViewDownload

--
*Tanay Bose*
Research Assistant  Teaching

[efloraofindia:75648] Re: eFI woman of July'11- Dr. Usha Desai (among non-moderators)

2011-08-01 Thread Ushadi micromini

Gee, gosh...
thanks for liking the stories... all, esp Madhuri ji (since she wrote
about it)..
humble, humble...
Love the group...

Usha di
==

On Aug 1, 8:36 pm, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
I am happy I was not wrong while congratulating. It is Ushadi (Ushadi
Micromini) who is the winner for the month of July.

--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.comwrote:

Oh!
Great!
Thanks again.
formpejaver stands for -formadhuripejaver.
party for sure. Wish to visit Kashmir in your presence. let me see when i
get time for outings now.
Bye
Madhuri

--- On *Mon, 1/8/11, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com* wrote:

From: Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:75599] eFI woman of July'11- Dr. Usha Desai
(among non-moderators)

To: formpeja...@yahoo.com
Cc: J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com, Efloraindia
indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, Ushadi micromini
microminipho...@gmail.com
Date: Monday, 1 August, 2011, 2:19 PM

Madhuri ji
You can't escape like that. Her name is Madhuri Raut (now Bhagshree Raut)
and email ID itii...@gmail.com http://mc/compose?to=itii...@gmail.com.

Your email ID is quite distinct
formpeja...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=formpeja...@yahoo.com
*
*
Google does not make these simple mistakes, so accept congrats humbly

We will have our party when we visit you.

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:43 PM,
formpeja...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=formpeja...@yahoo.com
wrote:

** Thank you, thank you
Aha! Gurucharanji, gargji !!!
Help help. I am so sorry that since I was the only Madhuri interacting till
last few days, I took it for granted that it is me. But it won't be. It must
be. Madhuri Raut and not me!
I am sorry that I snached away her credit.
Dear Madhuri I know you sign as Bhagyashree. But your email I'd says
Madhuri raut. Generally when people respond they respond to the mail I'd. It
has happened with NaBhaji. Repeatedly poor lady has tried to explain that
her name is Nilima, but people like me call her Nabhaji only. Like HS, and
so on.
The problem is I have only one name from my birth. Not even a pet name or
short form. So! I can't change my name. If you can change your mail I'd
as Bhagyashree raut things will change. Or else I have to be very careful
and concious hence forth. I am really sorry group members and Madhuri raut.
Madhuri Pejaver

Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
--
*From: * Gurcharan Singh
singh...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=singh...@gmail.com

*Date: *Mon, 1 Aug 2011 11:51:27 +0530
*To: *formpeja...@yahoo.com http://mc/compose?to=formpeja...@yahoo.com
*Cc: *J.M. Gargjmga...@gmail.com http://mc/compose?to=jmga...@gmail.com;
Efloraindiaindiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com;
Ushadi
microminimicrominipho...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=microminipho...@gmail.com

*Subject: *Re: [efloraofindia:75578] eFI woman of July'11- Dr. Usha Desai
(among non-moderators)

Congratulations Ushadi for being the eFl women for the month of July
Congratulations Aarti ji, Hemson ji, Mahadeswara ji and Madhuri ji for
being in the top line up

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:35 AM,
formpeja...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=formpeja...@yahoo.com
wrote:

** Congratulations!
The woman of the month.
Nice reading it.
Yes Gargji I accept she takes a lot of interest in the group, tell nice
stories, and gives a prank when needed.
She appears to be self made, self moulded lady. Very perticular, and
strict.
Ushadi this is reading and appreciating you. Don't take it otherwise.
Hahahah! Gargji you have included me too. Thank you, thank you! Just wait
for my retirement. And then I will identify every flower which comes on
eflora. (If till then any are left out! Hahahaha)
Madhuri

Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
--
*From: * J.M. Garg
jmga...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=jmga...@gmail.com

*Sender: *
indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
*Date: *Mon, 1 Aug 2011 11:18:11 +0530
*To:
*efloraofindiaindiantreepix

[efloraofindia:75649] Re: eFI woman of July'11- Dr. Usha Desai (among non-moderators)

2011-08-01 Thread Ushadi micromini


Dear Garg ji:
gee whiz, did I say all that initially???,
that's about everything...  there is to know...
Thanks for letting me join your group...

I am hoping that when next you are in Cal you'll let know and allow me
to go on a tree/id walk//
photography walk with you.
...
As to this group, am enjoying the interactions and am learning by
leaps and bounds...
Usha di
=



On Aug 1, 10:48 am, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,
 She joined recently in Feb'11. But has taken immense interest since then in
 eFI. This is what she has to say while joining eFI:
 Usha Desai, MD Research and Medicine my avocation, done a lot of micro,
 macro , electron microscopy in past, and now studying Ethnobotany , my motto
 is Trees Are Our Mashima©. Photographing Trees of Calcutta is one of
 my ambitions esp tracking down and documenting trees that Benthill wrote
 about. Just discovered your group through Wikipedia while searching for
 Ceiba pentandra which is flowering this week 2/25 to 2/28 2011 in
 Calcutta will be pleased immensely if you allow me to join your
 groupit seems only member can ask for id of unrecognised trees etc , it
 would help me if I could ask for advice. Thanks, Usha
 May be other members know more about her.
 Already she has sent 140 messages in July'11  is the highest poster among
 non-moderators.

 Other top five contributors among non- moderators are Aarti ji, Hemson
 (Alfred) ji, Mahadeswara ji  Madhuri ji.
 --
 With regards,
 J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora  Fauna'
 The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* 
 eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
 alphabetically  
 place-wise):http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also 
 use them
 for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
 For identification, learning, discussion  documentation of Indian Flora,
 please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google 
 e-group:http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix(more than 1630 members 
 
 73,000 messages on 30/6/11) or Efloraofindia 
 website:https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/(with a species database 
 of
 around 5000 species)

[efloraofindia:75707] Re: Ficus carica from our house in Srinagar, Kashmir

2011-08-01 Thread Ushadi micromini

very nice,  I can attest to the fact that there is nothing like your
own home grown figs, that you pluck
at your own peril, because the birds complain if you pick off too
many...

Was wondering if any particular cultivar does well in hot and humid
Kolkata?

usha di
==


On Aug 1, 8:42 am, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Our favourite Ficus carica (Fig) tree in our house in Balgarden, Srinagar,
 Kashmir. Photographed today. Especially for Aarti ji and Tanay. The fruits
 ripen in succession and if we miss plucking it, they are gone next day.
 Birds like them more than us.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

  Ficus-carica-Balgarden-Kashmir-1.jpg
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[efloraofindia:75712] Re: Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) Week: Ammi majus from Delhi

2011-08-01 Thread Ushadi micromini


Ah, beautiful AJWAIN.

of my grandma's must have medicine in the kitchen

to this day even  I keep it in the kitchen...
allopathic medicine's dogmas not withstanding...
Usha di

=



On Aug 1, 6:08 am, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 *Ammi majus* L., Sp. Pl. 243 1753.
 *syn: Carum* *majus* (L.) Koso-Pol.; *Cuminum regium* Royle

 Common names: Bishop's weed, bullwort, lady;s lace, laceflower

 Annual herb used in skin diseases,  vitiligo and psoriasis.It is being
 studied for potential cancer and AIDS treatments.
 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

  Ammi-majus-Hamdard-Herbal-gdn-Delhi-1.jpg
 239KViewDownload

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[efloraofindia:75714] Re: Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) Week: Anethum sowa from Delhi

2011-08-01 Thread Ushadi micromini

Until today, did not know flowers could tell the difference
 between the two,
 always  thought you had to taste the florets to know

from now on will photograph the flowers faces more carefully...
to document and to know...
thanks..Gurucharanji..

Usha di


On Aug 1, 6:26 am, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here are exclusive photographs of Anethum sowa. The plant is often confused
 with Fennel, but is quite distinct in its sharper fragrans, darker colour of
 leaves, slender stems and leaves, smaller darker yellow flowers and smaller
 darker fruits. In the above set I had photographed two side by side. Here it
 is exclusive one.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
  *Anethum sowa* Roxb. ex Fleming,  Asiat. Res. 11: 156 1810.
  syn: *Anethum graveolens* subsp. sowa (Roxb. ex Fleming) N. F. Koren

  Common names: Indian dill
  Vernacular names: Shatapushpa, satahva, madhura

  This popular culinary herb in India often used as vegetable in vegetative
  form, and dried seeds source of apiol used in medicine. has always confused
  me when I compare it with dill which has distinct large wings in fruit, a
  feature totally lacking in our sowa plant. Can any member throw light on
  this.

  Photographed from Botanical Garden of Khalsa College in Delhi.

  --
  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
  Retired  Associate Professor
  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/



  Anethum-sowa-Delhi-1.jpg
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[efloraofindia:75715] Re: Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) Week: Astrantia major from SFO, California

2011-08-01 Thread Ushadi micromini

How big are these umbels?
wonderful pics...
usha di
==

On Aug 1, 8:06 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 Vow Awesome Thanks Sir for sharing



 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:32 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
  Awesome photos and notes Sir Ji
  Thanks for sharing
  Tanay

  On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

  *Astrantia major* L., Sp. Pl. 235 1753.
  syn: *Astrantia candida* Mill.; *Astrantia montana* Clairv

  Common name: Great masterwort

  Perennial herb with thick rhizome, the umbell surrounded by large whitish
  bracts. A common plant in meadows in Europe and Western Asia, introduced in
  British Isles and elsewhere. Photographed in July from SFO Botanical 
  Garden,
  California.

  --
  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
  Retired  Associate Professor
  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

  --
  *Tanay Bose*
  Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
  Department of Botany.
  University of British Columbia .
  3529-6270 University Blvd.
  Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
  Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
             604-822-2019 (Lab)
             604-822-6089  (Fax)
  ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
  *Webpages:*
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/

 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

Re: [efloraofindia:75740] Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) Week for ID : Carota capitata UD 8 2 2011 001

2011-08-02 Thread ushadi Micromini

April 2011 is gone!!!

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good one Ushadi

 Carota capitata Ushadi

 (you may have get latin diagnosis of it, or wait after April 2011 to manage
 with English description)

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice Hybrid Usha Ji !!! Indeed Carota capitata


 On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 10:39 AM, ushadi Micromini 
 microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) Week:
 Most probably * Carota capitata*
 Not yet confirmed ID

 Found in  a local vegetable market,
 needed the right light to bring out the features

 Usha di
 ===




 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

Re: [efloraofindia:75742] Re: Giant Jewel Beetle feeding on Tendu leaves

2011-08-02 Thread ushadi Micromini

Dear Neil...
Please call me Usha... no Dr is necessary...
I am learning here... and I grew up not using epithets nor titles...
first name basis only... even bosses...

Spectacular pictures...never imagined I will see the flowers and bulbils
together... thank you.. ... this is very nice, thank you...
the only ones I recognized as having seen, eaten or otherwise familiar with
are the
Karanda, wild grapes, ghendal pata, and some unclassified Dioscorea

I have only studied and seen sample seeds in a ziplock plastic bag at
that...Mucuna pruriens.. when does it flower? and fruits? Do you ever
collect them? I would love some seeds if you do... Ayurvedic material , u
know...

Usha di
===

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:

Thank you Dr. Usha and Congratulations on being chosen ‘e-flora woman of
the month’!

The photographs were all taken in their natural surroundings – none
are planted.

Some of the climbers seen are :

** **

-Ampelocissus latifolia [Wild Grapes]

-Mucuna pruriens [Common Cow-itch]

-Wattakaka volubilis [Green Milkweed climber]

-Dioscorea bulbifera

-Dioscorea pentaphylla.

-Calycopteris floribunda [Paper Flower climber, Ukshi]

-Cissus repanda [Ghendal]

-Dalbergia volubilis [Alai**]

-Cryptolepis buchnanai [Wax-leaved climber]

-Zizyphus rugosa [Toran]

-Cyclea sp.

-Capparis zeylanica {Ceylon Caper]

-Embelia basaal [Wavding]

-Carissa congesta [Carvanda]

The D.bulbifera do develop bilbils but have never eaten any though they
are much sought after by tribals.
Sending you a few photographs.
With regards,
Neil Soares.
--- On *Sun, 7/31/11, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com* wrote:

From: ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:75472] Re: Giant Jewel Beetle feeding on Tendu
leaves
To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
Cc: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 31, 2011, 11:29 AM

Regards,
Usha di
==

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Neil Soares
drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
wrote:

--- On *Sat, 7/30/11, Smilax004
giby.kuriak...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=giby.kuriak...@gmail.com
* wrote:

From: Smilax004
giby.kuriak...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=giby.kuriak...@gmail.com

Subject: [efloraofindia:75417] Re: Giant Jewel Beetle feeding on Tendu
leaves
To: Geeta
rgeet...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rgeet...@gmail.com

Cc: indiantreepix
indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com,
microminipho...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=microminipho...@gmail.com
Date: Saturday, July 30, 2011, 11:39 AM

Dear Geeta,

Dear Ushadi,

That is their nature not only insects most of the animals do so. What
do a domestic cow do? Who cleans its

[efloraofindia:75743] Re: Mappia foetida

2011-08-02 Thread Ushadi micromini

Never seen tha plant, new to me...
thanks both of you
Usha di
===

On Aug 2, 2:28 pm, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nothapodytes nimmoniana of  Icacinaceae.
 An important medicinal plant because of the drug Camptothecin, that is
 used in treating cancer. Camphothecin is present in the bark of N.
 nimmoniana and is extracted commercially.

 Regards,
 Giby

 On Aug 2, 12:34 pm, Pravin Kawale kawale.pra...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,
  Today at Kanakeshwar,Alibag
  Mappia foetida
  (Nothapodytes)
  Marathi Names: Naraki, Amruta
  Regards
  DSC07896.JPG
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  These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google.
  Try it out here:http://picasa.google.com/

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[efloraofindia:75744] Re: Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) Week: Centella asiatica from Morni Hills

2011-08-02 Thread Ushadi micromini


What wonderful red flowers, now I'll have to go see my plants 
 dig in a little... to look for the flowers... always wondered but
never dared..
since trying to grow them in a pot on the balcony is iffy at best...
wonder if they develop flowers in a pot...


AND GURUCHARANJi: WHAT IS THIS CLASSICS THAT BRIJESH JI IS TALKING
ABOUT?


is it a book you wrote?
Usha di
==

On Aug 2, 2:18 pm, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote:
 Beautiful photos Balkar ji.  One for info.  It is used to make chutneys.
 Regards,
 Mani.

[efloraofindia:75765] Re: Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) Week : 020811 : AK-3

2011-08-02 Thread Ushadi micromini

very nice, but I cant tell one from the other... I usually just taste
the flowers
 or the seed heads if the plant is in a herbal or botanical garden...

Sowa bhaji is a bengali delicacy, leaves/bhaji is quickly sauteed with
already  boiled diced potatoes, a little salt and turmeric, yummy as
dry curry with rice or roti...

If you find similar umbels in wild, and esp if the flowers are white
and the
stem has red streaks... do not be mistaken and try even a little...
may not be carrots or queen anne's lace.. could be hemlock...
Dr. Gurucharan Singhji has just put one up today I think...

Usha di
===


On Aug 2, 10:43 am, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ajinkya ji,
 Thanks for a quick id.
 I am always confused between Saunf  Sowa.
 Regards,
 Aarti

 On 8/2/11, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.com wrote:

  बडीशेप

  On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Aarti S. Khale
  aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote:

  Taken at a farm at Dindori, near Nasik, Maharashtra on 27/2/11.
  Gurcharan jiagain is this Sowa or Saunf?
  This could be Sowa?
  Aarti

[efloraofindia:75768] Re: Shrub No.3 for ID plz. AND HOW TO BEHAVE

2011-08-02 Thread Ushadi micromini

I do not know why are you changing the subject line again, to pick a
fight...

but I do not want to fight

work is done...
let it rest, Please...
Usha di
==

On Aug 2, 6:18 pm, promila chaturvedi
thegardener.chaturv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can we avoid using strong words like behave.
 Promila

 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Ushadi micromini
 microminipho...@gmail.comwrote:

  Yes this is something we should all copy paste in a word file, print
  it and keep it handy...
  Thanks, Gurucharan ji, really aprreciate it... and all you do for this
  group.
  Thanks
  Usha di

  ===

  On Aug 1, 9:00 am, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
   Ushadi
   We missed your valuable comments. I am, however, becoming a fan of Tanay,
   seeing his pace of evolution and attainment of maturity since he joined
  the
   group. This group is known for high level of cordiality and fellowness.
       We have often been writing to new members to provide relevant
   information as per the prescribed format (which every person botanist or
   non-botanist can provide). True it is not possible for non-botanists to
   provide technical details but as I have been writing frequently, besides
  the
   format if mail is sent with some properly taken photographs, experts may
  be
   able to decifer details:

   1. A photograph of the twig showing insertion of leaves, inflorescence,
  with
   one or more leaves in good view.
   2. Side view close up of flower showing insertion of flower (if close up
  is
   properly taken, experts can study bract, pedicel, calyx, corolla
       from this).
   3. Top view close up of flower to show stamens and carpels.
   4. A photograph of fruit is always a bonus.

   With these photographs, place, altitude, date of photography, habit and
   habitat information, the job of the experts would be much more easier.

   --
   Dr. Gurcharan Singh
   Retired  Associate Professor
   SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
   Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
   Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

   On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Ushadi micromini
   microminipho...@gmail.comwrote:

On Jul 31, 8:03 pm, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Giby Ji.
 I appreciate and understand that all the botanist always wants
 the best information from the plant around them to get it
 identified if not they feel frustrated. But we should also consider
 that most of the members in our group are non-botanist and have
 very little ideas about the technical morphological complexities
 in the plant. Though some non botanist members have great
 knowledge about such technical terminologies but still the majority
 stays unaware of it. Hence I think you can  make such non-botanist
 members aware of what we actually expect from them in a more
 calm and refined manner rather getting too excited and robust. So
  that
 next time they can try to record the data from the field. I have
 no intentions
 to hurt you as you are one an assets in your group hence I
 believe you will take my words sporting without any hard feelings.

 Thanks
 Tanay

 On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Smilax004 
  giby.kuriak...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Dear all,

  I repeatedly inform all who post pictures for id that please
  provide
  supporting information along with pictures. Information along with
  pictures would certainly ease the id process. In the case of the
  picture in this post we are not sure what is the habit of this
  plant.
  Non of the leaves are clearly visible in the picture. It is not
  clear
  whether there are thorns on the stem of this plant. It is not very
  clear that whether leaves are opposite or alternate. Not clear
  about
  the size of plant, leaf, flower etc. The number of lobs in the
  corolla
  is also crucial that is not clear. The person who take the picture
  might know all these things. If you provide such information it
  would
  be better to confirm the species. Making assumptions might lead to
  wrong id. Any way, we take several minutes to hours (sometimes) to
  id
  a plant. When take pictures please take more than one picture from
  different angle so as to include more details in one snap. When you
  download the pictures select the one that has maximum information
  to
  post for id.
  You may please visit Dinesh ji's photos @
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/
  dinesh_valke/ to have an idea on this aspect.

  Therefore, I request all posters in this group to kindly take
  little
  bit of extra effort/time to provide necessary information (please
  see
  the format to post pictures for id). This not only would help us in
  id
  the plant but also help those who want to learn the species in
  detail.

  Regards,
  Giby

  On Jul 31, 11:53 am, Mymoon Moghul

[efloraofindia:75769] Re: Shrub No.3 for ID plz.

2011-08-02 Thread Ushadi micromini

DEAR ALL:
PLEASE DO NOT KEEP BRINGING UP THE SUBJECT LINE
THAT HAS BEEN EDITED TWICE ALREADY TO ITS ORIGINAL
FORM, once by Gurucharanji, and then by me.
the work is done...

AND WHEN YOU REPLY TO THIS THREAD IF EVER PLEASE
CHECK THE SUBJECT LINE SO THAT THE STRONGLY WORDED
 PART DOES NOT SHOW UP
THANKS

Usha di



On Aug 2, 6:18 pm, promila chaturvedi
thegardener.chaturv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can we avoid using strong words like behave.
 Promila

 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Ushadi micromini
 microminipho...@gmail.comwrote:

  Yes this is something we should all copy paste in a word file, print
  it and keep it handy...
  Thanks, Gurucharan ji, really aprreciate it... and all you do for this
  group.
  Thanks
  Usha di

  ===

  On Aug 1, 9:00 am, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
   Ushadi
   We missed your valuable comments. I am, however, becoming a fan of Tanay,
   seeing his pace of evolution and attainment of maturity since he joined
  the
   group. This group is known for high level of cordiality and fellowness.
       We have often been writing to new members to provide relevant
   information as per the prescribed format (which every person botanist or
   non-botanist can provide). True it is not possible for non-botanists to
   provide technical details but as I have been writing frequently, besides
  the
   format if mail is sent with some properly taken photographs, experts may
  be
   able to decifer details:

   1. A photograph of the twig showing insertion of leaves, inflorescence,
  with
   one or more leaves in good view.
   2. Side view close up of flower showing insertion of flower (if close up
  is
   properly taken, experts can study bract, pedicel, calyx, corolla
       from this).
   3. Top view close up of flower to show stamens and carpels.
   4. A photograph of fruit is always a bonus.

   With these photographs, place, altitude, date of photography, habit and
   habitat information, the job of the experts would be much more easier.

   --
   Dr. Gurcharan Singh
   Retired  Associate Professor
   SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
   Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
   Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

   On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Ushadi micromini
   microminipho...@gmail.comwrote:

On Jul 31, 8:03 pm, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Giby Ji.
 I appreciate and understand that all the botanist always wants
 the best information from the plant around them to get it
 identified if not they feel frustrated. But we should also consider
 that most of the members in our group are non-botanist and have
 very little ideas about the technical morphological complexities
 in the plant. Though some non botanist members have great
 knowledge about such technical terminologies but still the majority
 stays unaware of it. Hence I think you can  make such non-botanist
 members aware of what we actually expect from them in a more
 calm and refined manner rather getting too excited and robust. So
  that
 next time they can try to record the data from the field. I have
 no intentions
 to hurt you as you are one an assets in your group hence I
 believe you will take my words sporting without any hard feelings.

 Thanks
 Tanay

 On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Smilax004 
  giby.kuriak...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Dear all,

  I repeatedly inform all who post pictures for id that please
  provide
  supporting information along with pictures. Information along with
  pictures would certainly ease the id process. In the case of the
  picture in this post we are not sure what is the habit of this
  plant.
  Non of the leaves are clearly visible in the picture. It is not
  clear
  whether there are thorns on the stem of this plant. It is not very
  clear that whether leaves are opposite or alternate. Not clear
  about
  the size of plant, leaf, flower etc. The number of lobs in the
  corolla
  is also crucial that is not clear. The person who take the picture
  might know all these things. If you provide such information it
  would
  be better to confirm the species. Making assumptions might lead to
  wrong id. Any way, we take several minutes to hours (sometimes) to
  id
  a plant. When take pictures please take more than one picture from
  different angle so as to include more details in one snap. When you
  download the pictures select the one that has maximum information
  to
  post for id.
  You may please visit Dinesh ji's photos @
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/
  dinesh_valke/ to have an idea on this aspect.

  Therefore, I request all posters in this group to kindly take
  little
  bit of extra effort/time to provide necessary information (please
  see
  the format to post pictures for id). This not only

[efloraofindia:75770] Re: Flora of Panipat: Gomphrena globosa

2011-08-02 Thread Ushadi micromini

what a beauty...both colors, and hands are steady..
 tiniest hairs on the edges of the leaves are visible...

usha di
===

On Aug 2, 6:29 pm, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All
 A small Garden Herb *Gomphrena globosa*
 From Arya PG College Campus Panipat
 Family Amaranthaceae
 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

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[efloraofindia:75771] Re: Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) Week for ID : Angelica gigas UD 8 2 2011 002

2011-08-02 Thread Ushadi micromini


Thank you all for appreciation,

Gurucharanji: do you have old pictures?
Usha di


On Aug 2, 6:25 pm, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Really Nice photographs. Previously Angelica himalaica was very common in
 Gulmarg, here. Not able to locate yet.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

 On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com wrote:
  Beautiful photographs and nice reporting.

  On Aug 2, 5:21 pm, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:
   Dear ALL:
   Family: Apiaceae http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apiaceae
    Genus: *Angelica http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelica*
   Species: *A. gigas*
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_nomenclature * *Angelica gigas**
    *
   Nakai

   Korean angelica, native of China, Korea and Japan...
   now grown for its violet flowerheads by hobby gardeners in USA .
   Grows to be about 5 -6 feet in height, starts with purplish leaves
   which turn green, are serrated...

   Koreans eat the leaves, but one need to be aware of solar sensitivity
   and  dermatitis.  Recently being studied for prostate cancers...

   I photographed these at NYBG in summer of 2008,
   it flowers only during its second year, so was lucky to get
   the gorgeous purple flower heads..  several develop in one plant..

   I did not go back to photograph the seeds that develop,
   flicker has a photo by Steve of Edibugh Bot Garden at :

   Gorgeous photo of the seed head…

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephenbuchan/4050620305/

   *((From wikipedia: Description   *Plant 1–2 m, stout with deep thick
  roots.

   Stem purplish, ribbed. Leafblade triangular-ovate in outline,

   20–40 × 20–30 cm, 2–3-ternate-pinnate. Umbel purple, 5–8 cm across.

   Flowers dark purple-red, obovate. Flowering in late summer.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelica_gigas))

   Thanks

   Usha di

    a Angelica gigas korean angelica leaf bud LBL NYBG 08 (5) small cropped
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[efloraofindia:75772] Re: Ceropegia for ID 01082011 SMP2

2011-08-02 Thread Ushadi micromini

very nice... and dedication in the rain...
I am always fascinated by mother nature's use of the
 heart shape so often... wonder what does it mean?

I must meet Usha Page ji, I have heard so much about
her in the last few months here...

Usha di
==




On Aug 1, 10:34 pm, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice one Satish Ji. I have not seen even a single sp of Ceropegia in real
 thanks for showing pics.

 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.comwrote:



  Beautiful Satishji.
  Even those tiny water droplets have come so well
  Madhuri

  --- On *Mon, 1/8/11, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com* wrote:

  From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com
  Subject: [efloraofindia:75650] Ceropegia for ID 01082011 SMP2
  To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
  Date: Monday, 1 August, 2011, 9:43 PM

  We had merry time near Mulshi yesterday with Usha Page madam with all the
  enthusiasm and vigor. Though it was raining heavily we had to get down from
  our car to capture this Sahyadri beauty.
  Herb around1.5 feet high.
  Leaves petiolate 7cm or so somewhat pubescent.opposite.;?decussate
  Flowers dense white 5cm
  I think this has to be *Ceropegia sahyadrica.*
  Please validate
  Regards
  Dr Phadke

 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

[efloraofindia:75829] Re: Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) Week for ID : Angelica gigas UD 8 2 2011 002

2011-08-02 Thread Ushadi micromini

even better... genetic material would be handy...
or even for structural studies...
Thanks for sharing
Usha di


On Aug 2, 7:18 pm, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ushadi
 Unfortunately not. With film cameras, it was difficult to afford
 photographing so many plants.

 Here is my lone herbarium specimen of Angelica himalaica.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired Associate Professor, Department of Botany, SGTB Khalsa College
 University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018
 Phone: 01125518297; Mobile: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

 On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Ushadi micromini
 microminipho...@gmail.comwrote:



  Thank you all for appreciation,

  Gurucharanji: do you have old pictures?
  Usha di
  

  On Aug 2, 6:25 pm, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
   Really Nice photographs. Previously Angelica himalaica was very common in
   Gulmarg, here. Not able to locate yet.

   --
   Dr. Gurcharan Singh
   Retired  Associate Professor
   SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
   Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
   Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

   On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com
  wrote:
Beautiful photographs and nice reporting.

On Aug 2, 5:21 pm, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ALL:
 Family: Apiaceae http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apiaceae
  Genus: *Angelica http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelica*
 Species: *A. gigas*
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_nomenclature * *Angelica
  gigas**
  *
 Nakai

 Korean angelica, native of China, Korea and Japan...
 now grown for its violet flowerheads by hobby gardeners in USA .
 Grows to be about 5 -6 feet in height, starts with purplish leaves
 which turn green, are serrated...

 Koreans eat the leaves, but one need to be aware of solar sensitivity
 and  dermatitis.  Recently being studied for prostate cancers...

 I photographed these at NYBG in summer of 2008,
 it flowers only during its second year, so was lucky to get
 the gorgeous purple flower heads..  several develop in one plant..

 I did not go back to photograph the seeds that develop,
 flicker has a photo by Steve of Edibugh Bot Garden at :

 Gorgeous photo of the seed head…

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephenbuchan/4050620305/

 *((From wikipedia: Description   *Plant 1–2 m, stout with deep thick
roots.

 Stem purplish, ribbed. Leafblade triangular-ovate in outline,

 20–40 × 20–30 cm, 2–3-ternate-pinnate. Umbel purple, 5–8 cm across.

 Flowers dark purple-red, obovate. Flowering in late summer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelica_gigas))

 Thanks

 Usha di

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[efloraofindia:75831] Re: Giant Jewel Beetle feeding on Tendu leaves

2011-08-02 Thread Ushadi micromini

Neil:
good, may be I 'll need to find some sturdy (leather preferably)
gardening gloves...
 for you or your mali...  ha ha if I was hell bent on getting the
fruits pods and seeds 
Thanks for the pictures
lovely...
Usha di
===


On Aug 2, 10:40 pm, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,
  From my records over the last few years, Mucuna pruriens generally flowers 
 in October and fruiting occurs between October to March. Have never thought 
 of collecting the seeds as they grow wild and also because the pods are 
 covered with fine stinging hair.
   With regards,
     Neil Soares.

 --- On Tue, 8/2/11, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:75472] Re: Giant Jewel Beetle feeding on Tendu 
 leaves
 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
 Cc: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2011, 4:25 PM

 Dear Neil...
 Please call me Usha... no Dr is necessary...
 I am learning here...  and I grew up not using epithets nor titles...
 first name basis only... even bosses...

 Spectacular pictures...never imagined I will see the flowers and bulbils 
 together... thank you..  ... this is very nice, thank you...
 the only ones  I recognized as having seen, eaten or otherwise familiar with 
 are the
 Karanda,  wild grapes, ghendal pata,  and some unclassified Dioscorea

 I have only studied and seen sample seeds in a ziplock plastic bag at 
 that...Mucuna pruriens..  when does it flower?  and fruits?  Do you ever 
 collect them?  I would love some seeds if you do...  Ayurvedic material , u 
 know...

 Usha di
 ===

 On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Thank you Dr. Usha and Congratulations on being chosen ‘e-flora woman of 
 the month’!
    The photographs were all taken in their natural surroundings – none 
 are planted.
  
  Some of the climbers seen are :
  
 -Ampelocissus latifolia [Wild Grapes]
 -Mucuna pruriens [Common Cow-itch]
 -Wattakaka volubilis [Green Milkweed climber]
 -Dioscorea bulbifera
 -Dioscorea pentaphylla.
 -Calycopteris floribunda [Paper Flower climber, Ukshi]
 -Cissus repanda [Ghendal]
 -Dalbergia volubilis [Alai]
 -Cryptolepis buchnanai [Wax-leaved climber]
 -Zizyphus rugosa [Toran]
 -Cyclea sp.
 -Capparis zeylanica {Ceylon Caper]
 -Embelia basaal [Wavding]
 -Carissa congesta [Carvanda]

     The D.bulbifera do develop bilbils but have never eaten any though they 
 are much sought after by tribals.
  Sending you a few photographs.
  With regards,
    Neil Soares.
 --- On Sun, 7/31/11, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:

  

 From: ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:75472] Re: Giant Jewel Beetle feeding on Tendu 
 leaves
 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
 Cc: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, July 31, 2011, 11:29 AM

 Dear Neil:  Thanks for sharing...
 are these VINES volunteers or did you transplant/ plant 'em by design?
 I would not know which is which... could you tell me, please?
 DOES YOUR AIR POTATO PLANT DEVELOP the typical potaoes?
 Have ever eaten them?

 I became interested in Dioscorea...  as a tribe...while studying
 ethnobotany of ne states of india including Assam, Bengal,
 Tripura  Nagaland etc...the genus is of utmost importance as
 food to natives of ne hill states of Indiaas tubers..leaves
 are all eaten, often as staples...

 But even before that, while  studying western herbal medicine,.
 became interested  in Dioscorea .as sources of steroid diosgenin...
 which in hands of industry is base for making synthetic
 hormones but of cource you knew that..  and that one leaf
 sort of reminded me of something I seen somewhere, there by
 that initial  question

  THE MORE MORE I READ ABOUT BOTANY OF INDIA..
 ITS BECOMING CLEARER BY THE DAY THAT THE
 WESTERN GHATS HAVE A VERY DIVERSE and ..
 HIGHLY EVOLVED BOTANICAL MIX... AND MANY
  THINGS NOT IN OUR COLLECTIVE HORTICULTURAL
  HABITS REMAIN TO BE   DISCOVERED  ANEW , ESP
 WHEN WE CAN ALL BE ARMED WITH RECORDERS
  AND DIGITAL CAMERAS...AND TALK TO EACH OTHER
 SO RAPIDLY..!!!   EXPONENTIALLY INCREASING OUR
 COLLECTIVE  KNOWLEDGE 

 Regards,
 Usha di
 ==

 On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi,
  The Dioscorea bulbifera was just an incidental finding. Please check these 
 photographs where there are at least 6 climbers per frame. They are all taken 
 at my farm at Shahapur.
  With regards,
    Neil Soares.

 --- On Sat, 7/30/11, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com
 Subject: [efloraofindia:75417] Re: Giant Jewel Beetle feeding on Tendu leaves
 To: Geeta rgeet...@gmail.com
 Cc: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, 
 microminipho

Re: [efloraofindia:75833] Re: Giant Jewel Beetle feeding on Tendu leaves

2011-08-02 Thread ushadi Micromini

So, Neil, How does one keep a diary for all the flora and fauna on a farm...
how detailed and how often do you walk around (systematically I guess) and
record?
How big does it get, and how do you track... ie a cross index of all info?

Usha di
==

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi,
From my records over the last few years, Mucuna pruriens generally flowers
in October and fruiting occurs between October to March. Have never thought
of collecting the seeds as they grow wild and also because the pods are
covered with fine stinging hair.
With regards,
Neil Soares.

--- On *Tue, 8/2/11, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com* wrote:

Dear Neil...
Please call me Usha... no Dr is necessary...
I am learning here... and I grew up not using epithets nor titles...
first name basis only... even bosses...

Spectacular pictures...never imagined I will see the flowers and bulbils
together... thank you.. ... this is very nice, thank you...
the only ones I recognized as having seen, eaten or otherwise familiar
with are the
Karanda, wild grapes, ghendal pata, and some unclassified Dioscorea

Usha di
===

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Neil Soares
drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Thank you Dr. Usha and Congratulations on being chosen ‘e-flora woman
of the month’!

The photographs were all taken in their natural surroundings – none
are planted.

Some of the climbers seen are :

** **

-Ampelocissus latifolia [Wild Grapes]

-Mucuna pruriens [Common Cow-itch]

-Wattakaka volubilis [Green Milkweed climber]

-Dioscorea bulbifera

-Dioscorea pentaphylla.

-Calycopteris floribunda [Paper Flower climber, Ukshi]

-Cissus repanda [Ghendal]

-Dalbergia volubilis [Alai**]

-Cryptolepis buchnanai [Wax-leaved climber]

-Zizyphus rugosa [Toran]

-Cyclea sp.

-Capparis zeylanica {Ceylon Caper]

-Embelia basaal [Wavding]

-Carissa congesta [Carvanda]

From: ushadi Micromini
microminipho...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=microminipho...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:75472] Re: Giant Jewel Beetle feeding on Tendu
leaves
To: Neil Soares
drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com

Cc: efloraofindia
indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

Date: Sunday, July 31, 2011, 11:29 AM

Regards,
Usha di
==

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Neil Soares
drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Hi,
The Dioscorea bulbifera was just

[efloraofindia:75860] Re: Flora of Manipur: Acorus calamus

2011-08-02 Thread Ushadi micromini


Calamus derived herbal products were banned in USA as far back as
1968

because of purported carcinogenicity... apparently there are genetic
variations ...

I quote from Wikipedia: ( do not know whao wrote this wiki article
though)

Start Quote:   Regulation:Products derived from Acorus calamus
were banned in 1968 as food additives by the United States Food and
Drug Administration.[1]The questionable chemical derived from the
plant was β-asarone. Confusion exists whether all strains of Acorus
Calamus contain this substance.

Four varieties of Acorus calamus strains exist in nature; diploid,
triploid, tetraploid and hexaploid. [2] Diploids do not produce the
carcinogenic β-asarone. Diploids are known to grow naturally in
Eastern Asia (Mongolia and C Siberia) and North America. The triploid
cytotype probably originated in the Himalayan region, as a hybrid
between the diploid and tetraploid cytotypes. [3] The North American
Calamus is known as Acorus Calamus var. Americanus or more recently as
simply Acorus Americanus. Like the diploid strains of calamus in parts
of the Himalayas, Mongolia, and C Siberia, the North American diploid
strain does not contain the carcinogenic β-asarone.[4][5][6] Research
has consistently demonstrated that β-asarone was not detectable in
the North American spontaneous diploid Acorus [Calamus var.
Americanus].[7]end quote

the quote is from URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorus
and that's where the references listed in the quotes are...
MY QUESTION:

ARE THERE INDIAN ORIGIN PAPERS ABOUT the GENETICS of CALAMUS or VACHA
used in Ayurvedic medicine ???

IF anyone knows, could you please share the CITATIONS WITH THE GROUP
and ME?
Thanks...

Usha di



On Aug 2, 9:48 pm, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here are mine from Herbal garden samalkha Panipat



 On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:46 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks Vijaya Ji for the information!!!
  Tanay

  On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:42 AM, R. Vijayasankar 
  vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote:

  Ya Tanay, both rhizomes as well as leaves are aromatic. As you know it has
  got high reputation as a medicinal plant too, used for various stomach
  ailments in children traditionally. Every household will have this precious
  plant (rhizome) for emergency use.

  With regards

  R. Vijayasankar

  On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:47 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.comwrote:

  Dear Vijayasankar ji ,
  I hope this is the plant which has high amount of *Beta-asarone* which
  give its rhizome and leave scented.
  Tanay

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:52 AM, R. Vijayasankar 
  vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote:

*Acorus calamus*, from Manipur.

  With regards

  Vijayasankar

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[efloraofindia:75866] Re: Oroxylum indicum

2011-08-03 Thread Ushadi micromini

Local variation may be?  or environmental toxin induced changes??

In one tribe of these trees in northern Calcutta I found five
stamens...
I am posting them separately under a different thread today

there is another stand of these trees in a sanctuary  on southern
fringes..
... will have to wait till next spring to get the flowers.. and do
dissection
Usha di


On Aug 2, 9:18 pm, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oroxylum flowers supposed to have 5 stamens which are nicely seen here.
 Somehow when I checked my earlier collection I have a photograph of the
 flower taken from a tree in Pune city which is showing 8 stamens. Any idea
 what can the reason be?
 Dr Phadke

 On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote:
  *Oroxylum indicum*
  Observed in Mulshi
  31 Jul 2011. A large Bignoniaceae member.

  Dr Phadke



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Re: [efloraofindia:75867] For Identification_02012011_DS_SN3

2011-08-03 Thread ushadi Micromini

Dali ... did n't it flower this summer?
usha di


On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:27 AM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
 Some earlier relevant feedback:
 “*Dombeya natalensis* i suppose
 Alok”

 “Is it flowering tree?  I have seen similar tree in Kerala called *Poduni
 * in Malayalam.
 Regards,
 Mani.”

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Dalia Set setda...@gmail.com
 Date: 2 January 2011 23:11
 Subject: [efloraofindia:58725] For Identification_02012011_DS_SN3
 To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


 Dear Friends

 The tree looks beautiful with dense foliage - shot in Howrah garden today.

 Requested Id.

 Thanks
 Dalia



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[efloraofindia:75868] Re: Oroxylum indicum

2011-08-03 Thread Ushadi micromini


Love the third... pollinator at work...
well done
Usha di

On Aug 2, 8:56 pm, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote:
 *Oroxylum indicum*
 Observed in Mulshi
 31 Jul 2011. A large Bignoniaceae member.

 Dr Phadke

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Re: [efloraofindia:75943] Re: Flora of Manipur: Acorus calamus

2011-08-03 Thread ushadi Micromini

MY QUESTION:

ARE THERE INDIAN ORIGIN PAPERS ABOUT the GENETICS of CALAMUS or VACHA
used in Ayurvedic medicine ???

IF anyone knows, could you please share the CITATIONS WITH THE GROUP
and ME?
Thanks...
Usha di

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great News Usha Ji Thanks for informing

 2011/8/3 Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com


 Calamus derived herbal products were banned in USA as far back as
 1968

 because of purported carcinogenicity... apparently there are genetic
 variations ...

 I quote from Wikipedia: ( do not know whao wrote this wiki article
 though)

 Start Quote:   Regulation:Products derived from Acorus calamus
 were banned in 1968 as food additives by the United States Food and
 Drug Administration.[1]The questionable chemical derived from the
 plant was β-asarone. Confusion exists whether all strains of Acorus
 Calamus contain this substance.

 Four varieties of Acorus calamus strains exist in nature; diploid,
 triploid, tetraploid and hexaploid. [2] Diploids do not produce the
 carcinogenic β-asarone. Diploids are known to grow naturally in
 Eastern Asia (Mongolia and C Siberia) and North America. The triploid
 cytotype probably originated in the Himalayan region, as a hybrid
 between the diploid and tetraploid cytotypes. [3] The North American
 Calamus is known as Acorus Calamus var. Americanus or more recently as
 simply Acorus Americanus. Like the diploid strains of calamus in parts
 of the Himalayas, Mongolia, and C Siberia, the North American diploid
 strain does not contain the carcinogenic β-asarone.[4][5][6] Research
 has consistently demonstrated that β-asarone was not detectable in
 the North American spontaneous diploid Acorus [Calamus var.
 Americanus].[7]end quote

 the quote is from URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorus
 and that's where the references listed in the quotes are...
 MY QUESTION:

 ARE THERE INDIAN ORIGIN PAPERS ABOUT the GENETICS of CALAMUS or VACHA
 used in Ayurvedic medicine ???

 IF anyone knows, could you please share the CITATIONS WITH THE GROUP
 and ME?
 Thanks...

 Usha di
 


 On Aug 2, 9:48 pm, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
  Here are mine from Herbal garden samalkha Panipat
 
 
 
  On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:46 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Thanks Vijaya Ji for the information!!!
   Tanay
 
   On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:42 AM, R. Vijayasankar 
 vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   Ya Tanay, both rhizomes as well as leaves are aromatic. As you know
 it has
   got high reputation as a medicinal plant too, used for various
 stomach
   ailments in children traditionally. Every household will have this
 precious
   plant (rhizome) for emergency use.
 
   With regards
 
   R. Vijayasankar
 
   On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:47 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Dear Vijayasankar ji ,
   I hope this is the plant which has high amount of *Beta-asarone*
 which
   give its rhizome and leave scented.
   Tanay
 
 On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:52 AM, R. Vijayasankar 
   vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 *Acorus calamus*, from Manipur.
 
   With regards
 
   Vijayasankar
 
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[efloraofindia:75971] Re: Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) Week: Eryngium billardieri from, Pahalgam, Kashmir

2011-08-04 Thread Ushadi micromini

Wonderful, never seen it,  thanks...
where can I read  a  little more about it?
thanks
Usha di


On Aug 3, 9:50 am, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 *Eryngium billardieri* Del., Eryng. Hist. 25, t, 2. 1808.

 Plant up to 50 cm tall, stems bluish; radical leaves pinnately divided,
 petiolate, cauline sessile, margin spiny; flowers sessile; involucre of 6-8
 bracts alternating spines; flowers white, hidden in bracts.

 Common in Kashmir valley in waste places. Photographed from Pahalgam in
 June

 --

 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

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[efloraofindia:75972] Re: Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) Week: Heracleum candicans from Kashmir

2011-08-04 Thread Ushadi micromini

very nice, new to me ...
pic number two reminds me of the seedpods of Angelica , taken by
steven ( url in my thread)

Usha di


On Aug 3, 11:06 am, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 *Heracleum candicans* Wall. ex DC., Prodr. 4:192. 1830

 Tall pubescent herb reaching 2 m; leaves 20-40 cm long, pinnate, pinnae
 lobed or not, segments up to 20 cm long, glabrous or pubescent above,
 densely and often white tomentose beneath, margin serrate; rays 15-35,
 without involucre bracts; involucel bracts 5-8, linear to lanceolate; outer
 petals longer than others; fruit compressed, prominently winged.

 Common in Kashmir valley in forest slopes. Photographed from Herbal Garden
 below Cheshmashahi, Srinagar Kashmir in

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

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Re: [efloraofindia:75994] Oroxylum Indicum on the Gangetic Plains, flowers fallen on a public footpath UD 08042011 001

2011-08-04 Thread ushadi Micromini

Thanks, Neilplease call me Usha...NO DR
ha ha..
if you keep calling me Dr. Usha, I then have to call you Dr. Neil... that
would go against my notions of fully operational democracy and I dont
want to have to go against the grain

NICE pictures...
How I wish  I could get my hands on a few hundred of these seeds... I want
to try out some medicinal self experiment...

Your pictures make it plain to see...
I have seen them in the classes in Jamnagar... they are very light, have
wings all around ...  I do not know what the terminology of winged seeds
is

Usha di
===


On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Nice photographs Dr. Usha ! Seeds are clearly seen [in 2 pods on the left
 and one pod on the right] in the last photograph.
   Regards,
Neil Soares.

 --- On *Thu, 8/4/11, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com
 Subject: [efloraofindia:75988] Oroxylum Indicum on the Gangetic Plains,
 flowers fallen on a public footpath UD 08042011 001
 To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 3:50 PM


  Dear All:

 I was given to understand that  best  Oroxylum indicum, or  Shonyak of
 Ayurvedic medicine comes from those growing at the Himalayan foothills,  and
 I did not expect them in gangetic plains.



 So I was very surprised when in peripheral vision out of running cab window
 I spotted some sword- like pods, and on second look saw leaves similar those
 on a 2 foot tall sapling I had seen in a herbal garden in Jamnagar about a
 decade ago...  here was a stand of Oroxylum indicum on the hot humid and  
 almost
 at or even a foot or two below sea level Gangetic plains  on the
 northern fringes of Calcutta...



 I stopped and took some pictures, and picked up a fallen flower  from
 the PUBLIC sidewalk...

 could not see or take pictures of the trunk or the bark etcbecause of a
 huge  wall and could not pick up more of the fallen flowers because no
 sooner had I picked up a flower and spread it open that a cycle riding
 plains clothes person came and very authoritatively shooed me away..  saying
 it was a restricted area   I could not understand how can a public
 footpath with two bus-stops within 50 feet of where I was standing be a
 restricted area...



 Anyway, when I got home I had some dark and one acceptable picture of the
 leaves...Pods had previously opened and most likely dispersed its seeds
 away..the day before it had rained very heavily. I did not see any on
 the footpath below in that quick 2 minute sojourn...



 Details: *Oroxylum indicum*

 Family:   Bignoniaceae

 Genus: Oroxylum

 Species:  * Oroxylum  indicum*

 Sanskrit :  अरलु aralu,  श्योनक shyonaka

 Gujarati and Marathi : टा यिटू tayitu, टेटु tetu

 Hindi:   शल्लक shallaka

 Santhal tribals call it: Rengebanam



 The open flower shows 5 stamens …. See recent other threads about
 Shyonak/oroxylum indicum  this week …


 ***   Root bark and seeds are medicinal…

 Root bark is an important constituent of Dashmool…. Very important in
 normalizing the gut related immune functions and improving the health of GI
 mucosa… normalizing it…  many many more…  recent research points to
 possible anticancer properties  of the kwath of dashmool and of the seeds…
 much remains to study by astute modern clinicians….



 Ushadi

Re: [efloraofindia:75995] Oroxylum Indicum on the Gangetic Plains, flowers fallen on a public footpath UD 08042011 001

2011-08-04 Thread ushadi Micromini

Oh , yes, I know that, that's why I was sorry for myself that that guy came
out and shooed me away... I would have loved to hang around for a big nice
wind gust... the seeds would have spilled out  I tried to argue with the
guy ... but its a military camp, I found out later... no arguing with
them... they have work to do...

Usha di
==

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Nice photographs Dr. Usha ! Seeds are clearly seen [in 2 pods on the left
 and one pod on the right] in the last photograph.
   Regards,
Neil Soares.

 --- On *Thu, 8/4/11, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com
 Subject: [efloraofindia:75988] Oroxylum Indicum on the Gangetic Plains,
 flowers fallen on a public footpath UD 08042011 001
 To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 3:50 PM


  Dear All:

 I was given to understand that  best  Oroxylum indicum, or  Shonyak of
 Ayurvedic medicine comes from those growing at the Himalayan foothills,  and
 I did not expect them in gangetic plains.



 So I was very surprised when in peripheral vision out of running cab window
 I spotted some sword- like pods, and on second look saw leaves similar those
 on a 2 foot tall sapling I had seen in a herbal garden in Jamnagar about a
 decade ago...  here was a stand of Oroxylum indicum on the hot humid and  
 almost
 at or even a foot or two below sea level Gangetic plains  on the
 northern fringes of Calcutta...



 I stopped and took some pictures, and picked up a fallen flower  from
 the PUBLIC sidewalk...

 could not see or take pictures of the trunk or the bark etcbecause of a
 huge  wall and could not pick up more of the fallen flowers because no
 sooner had I picked up a flower and spread it open that a cycle riding
 plains clothes person came and very authoritatively shooed me away..  saying
 it was a restricted area   I could not understand how can a public
 footpath with two bus-stops within 50 feet of where I was standing be a
 restricted area...



 Anyway, when I got home I had some dark and one acceptable picture of the
 leaves...Pods had previously opened and most likely dispersed its seeds
 away..the day before it had rained very heavily. I did not see any on
 the footpath below in that quick 2 minute sojourn...



 Details: *Oroxylum indicum*

 Family:   Bignoniaceae

 Genus: Oroxylum

 Species:  * Oroxylum  indicum*

 Sanskrit :  अरलु aralu,  श्योनक shyonaka

 Gujarati and Marathi : टा यिटू tayitu, टेटु tetu

 Hindi:   शल्लक shallaka

 Santhal tribals call it: Rengebanam



 The open flower shows 5 stamens …. See recent other threads about
 Shyonak/oroxylum indicum  this week …


 ***   Root bark and seeds are medicinal…

 Root bark is an important constituent of Dashmool…. Very important in
 normalizing the gut related immune functions and improving the health of GI
 mucosa… normalizing it…  many many more…  recent research points to
 possible anticancer properties  of the kwath of dashmool and of the seeds…
 much remains to study by astute modern clinicians….



 Ushadi

[efloraofindia:75998] Re: 03082011 Oroxylum Flowers

2011-08-04 Thread Ushadi micromini


yes, Madhuri, see my thread for various vernacular names..
Usha di

===
On Aug 4, 1:56 am, Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Is this by any chance Tetu?
 Madhuri

 --- On Wed, 3/8/11, Shrikant  Ingalhalikar le...@rediffmail.com wrote:

 From: Shrikant  Ingalhalikar le...@rediffmail.com
 Subject: [efloraofindia:75882] 03082011 Oroxylum Flowers
 To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, 3 August, 2011, 4:26 PM

 Oroxylum flowers bloom in rainy season at 9 pm. It is difficult to get 
 flowers on the raceme since bats start visiting as soon as they open with a 
 foul smell. I could not attach picture on the running thread hence a new 
 post. Regards

 Shrikant Ingalhalikar
 12 Varshanand Society
 Anandnagar Sinhagad Road
 Pune 411 051.www.idsahyadri.com
 Tel 91 20 2435 0765.
 Fax 91 20 2438 9190.

 Treat yourself at a restaurant, spa, resort and much more with Rediff Deal ho 
 jaye!

[efloraofindia:76026] Re: OROXYLUM INDICUM

2011-08-04 Thread Ushadi micromini

Bimal da: that's what  I thought, that it was common only in the
himalayn foot hills...
but I have found it in Bihar, Chhatisgarh , Bengal country
sides...driving around... and here at eflorathere are examples that it
also grows well in the western ghats...


Nice to know...
Usha di
==
On Aug 4, 7:26 pm, Col Bimal Sarkar colbimalsar...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dear Friend,
    In 1967 while coming back from Sikkim to Darjeeling,we 
 stopped at the bridge on river Teesta.While walking on the road I picked up a 
 trasparent papery substance and  asked a local person about the identity of 
 the substance.He told me that it is known as CHAMPA . In 1983 Mr Kharto ( 
 Tibetan instructor ) wanted to know about the tree known as CHAMPA to the 
 BHUDDHISTS .I could not enlighten him as to me CHAMA was Michelia champaca.It 
 was in Udhampur(1998),I opened a dry pod of Oroxylum indicum and saw the 
 papery seeds inside I understood what CHAMPA means to a BUDDHIST.My friend 
 Sonam told me that Bhuddhist use the pods and the seeds in worship of 
 Buddha.This tree is very common at this place.It is known as Ullu in Hindi 
 and Sona in Bangla.
   This is what S venkatesh tells about the tree,

      The tree is conspicuous in the forest when it bears its 
 scabbard-like fruits which breaks open to release its flat,papery and winged 
 seeds.
     Some of you may not like to receive the images I post.Please feel fre 
 e to let me know so that I may not burden you with these.
 Regards
 Col (Retd) Bimal Sarkar
 Mobile: 9434194942

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Re: [efloraofindia:76053] Oroxylum Indicum on the Gangetic Plains, flowers fallen on a public footpath UD 08042011 001

2011-08-04 Thread ushadi Micromini

where is this hill, what state? how high above sea level?
u

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:

Nice capture Usha Ji. Once i got a chance to get its one Pod and that is
kept in Museum of my College. today after seeing pics of yours i could
remember that we have seen this plant in Morni Hills from where we collected
its one pod.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote:

Hi,
Photographed this July. Please also check this link :

https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/16f131b0f92d3f7e/24efb43551c64d94?hl=enlnk=gstq=Oroxylum+indicum+Neil+Soares.#24efb43551c64d94

Regards,
Neil Soares.

--- On *Thu, 8/4/11, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com* wrote:

From: ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:75995] Oroxylum Indicum on the Gangetic
Plains, flowers fallen on a public footpath UD 08042011 001
To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
Cc: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 4:34 PM

Oh , yes, I know that, that's why I was sorry for myself that that guy
came out and shooed me away... I would have loved to hang around for a big
nice wind gust... the seeds would have spilled out I tried to argue
with the guy ... but its a military camp, I found out later... no arguing
with them... they have work to do...

Usha di
==

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Neil Soares
drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Nice photographs Dr. Usha ! Seeds are clearly seen [in 2 pods on the
left and one pod on the right] in the last photograph.
Regards,
Neil Soares.

--- On *Thu, 8/4/11, ushadi Micromini
microminipho...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=microminipho...@gmail.com
* wrote:

From: ushadi Micromini
microminipho...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=microminipho...@gmail.com

Subject: [efloraofindia:75988] Oroxylum Indicum on the Gangetic Plains,
flowers fallen on a public footpath UD 08042011 001
To: efloraofindia
indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 3:50 PM

Dear All:
I was given to understand that best Oroxylum indicum, or Shonyak of
Ayurvedic medicine comes from those growing at the Himalayan foothills, and
I did not expect them in gangetic plains.

So I was very surprised when in peripheral vision out of running cab
window I spotted some sword- like pods, and on second look saw leaves
similar those on a 2 foot tall sapling I had seen in a herbal garden in
Jamnagar about a decade ago... here was a stand of Oroxylum indicum on
the hot humid and almost at or even a foot or two below sea level
Gangetic plains on the northern fringes of Calcutta...

I stopped and took some pictures, and picked up a fallen flower from
the PUBLIC sidewalk...
could not see or take pictures of the trunk or the bark etcbecause of
a huge wall and could not pick up more of the fallen flowers because no
sooner had I picked up a flower and spread it open that a cycle riding
plains clothes person came and very authoritatively shooed me away.. saying
it was a restricted area I could not understand how can a public
footpath with two bus-stops within 50 feet of where I was standing be a
restricted area...

Anyway, when I got home I had some dark and one acceptable picture of the
leaves...Pods had previously opened and most likely dispersed its seeds
away..the day before it had rained very heavily. I did not see any on
the footpath below in that quick 2 minute sojourn...

Details: *Oroxylum indicum*
Family: Bignoniaceae
Genus: Oroxylum
Species: * Oroxylum indicum*
Sanskrit : अरलु aralu, श्योनक shyonaka
Gujarati and Marathi : टा यिटू tayitu, टेटु tetu
Hindi: शल्लक shallaka
Santhal tribals call it: Rengebanam

The open flower shows 5 stamens …. See recent other threads about
Shyonak/oroxylum indicum this week …

*** Root bark and seeds are medicinal…
Root bark is an important constituent of Dashmool…. Very important in
normalizing the gut related immune functions and improving the health of GI
mucosa… normalizing it… many many more… recent research points to
possible anticancer properties of the kwath of dashmool and of the
seeds… much remains to study by astute modern clinicians….

Ushadi

--
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964

[efloraofindia:76086] Re: Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) Week: Eryngium paniculatum from California

2011-08-04 Thread Ushadi micromini

yes very nice, upon fully maturing, this shade of color is derived...

Usha di

On Aug 5, 6:36 am, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 *Eryngium paniculatum* Cav.  Dombey ex F. Delaroche, Eryng. Alep. hist. 59.
 1808

 A South American plant from Argentina and Chile, cultivated in University of
 California Botanical Garden, photographed in June.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

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[efloraofindia:76100] Re: Begonia semperflorens from NBPGR Shimla

2011-08-05 Thread Ushadi micromini

nice...
seems this variety produces too few flowers , may be?

Usha  di


On Aug 4, 9:11 pm, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 a few more pics from a Nursery in Karnal



 On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 10:25 AM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote:
  Nice flower Balkarji.  The leaves are also very showy.

  Regards,

  Mani.

  On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 7:32 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

  This is the much common one in contrast to  Begonia masoniana
  Tanay

  On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.comwrote:

  Dear All
  Begonia semperflorens

  --
  Regards

  Dr Balkar Singh
  Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
  Arya P G College, Panipat
  Haryana-132103
  09416262964

  --
  *Tanay Bose*
  Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
  Department of Botany.
  University of British Columbia .
  3529-6270 University Blvd.
  Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
  Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
              604-822-2019 (Lab)
  ta...@interchange.ubc.ca

 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

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[efloraofindia:76101] Re: Ornamental from Panipat

2011-08-05 Thread Ushadi micromini

Very nice, looks like it can be used for hedge?
Usha di

=


On Aug 4, 9:09 pm, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 More pics of the same plant same location

 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

  Thanks Pankaj Ji for this additional information and validation.
  Regards,
  --
  Dr. Nidhan Singh
  Department of Botany
  I.B. (PG) College
  Panipat-132103 Haryana
  Ph.: 09416371227

 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

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[efloraofindia:76173] Re: Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) Week: Angelica pachycarpa from California

2011-08-05 Thread Ushadi micromini

Very nice, the flowers are almost white or creamy
in the back ... the brown things, what are they? seeds?

Usha di
===

On Aug 5, 6:28 am, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 *Angelica pachycarpa* Lange, Descr. icon. pl. nov. 1:7, t. 9. 1864

 A europaean plant having become naturalized in Australia and NewZealand.

 Photographed from SFO Botanical Garden, California in July
 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

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[efloraofindia:76187] Re: hello - a question!

2011-08-05 Thread Ushadi micromini

@ Dr. Shinde:
 No harm at all... matter of fact the red pulp is very little around
the
ripening seeds,  little though there is its   a little sweeter than
in  green fruit,
 and of course astringent to the taste...  and makes good veggeii...
esp if a few are mixed in with the green ones...
I know because I have eaten them, tasted them raw, and made into
curry...

Matter of fact.. even reddened ripening karela also tastes good mixed
in...
and its seeds heavenly deep fried...

So moral of the story: feel free to eat it... no harm done...

Usha di
===


On Aug 5, 10:27 pm, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Dr. Shinde,

 If it is about Coccinia grandis (= C. indica, Cephalandra indica ['Kovai' in
 Tamil]), then I can say that it is safe to use the fruits at any stage. I
 have eaten plenty of ripe fruits when they turn fully red. Its sweet. While
 the green unripe fruits preferred as a vegetable, we generally avoid the
 fruits which turned reddish inside because they are more bitter and leathery
 and hence may change the taste and texture of the curry. Also the fact is
 the fruits that turned reddish inside, have mature prominent seeds that I
 don't prefer to have in the dish. Otherwise, I don't think it is harm to
 consume these ripening fruits.
 You may find a picture of fruits, some turned reddish inside, in this wiki
 page  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sliced_kovals.jpg

 Regards

 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi

 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Rajendra Shinde rdshi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear All,

  I have received this query. Honestly, I have no clue..can some one
  contribute?

  I deaily folllow your column ' kutuhal' in Marathi newspaper 'Loksatta'.
  I'm trying to find out the real reason behind a query of mine. I  hope you
  will help me. My question may sound stupid to you.
  I have taught since my childhood that 'tondli' (ivy gourd in english 
  )should not be eaten when they have become red from inside. No reason was
  available. Now in my in laws place they say you can eat it. There is no
  harm.So the question is what is the reality. Should we eat or not. If the
  answer is no why not. If the answer is yes then why so. Can please take
  the effort to find out the solution for this?

  Thanks,

  Shinde

[efloraofindia:76204] Re: Pterospermum acerifolium CORRECTION name , Local name : Kanak champa

2011-08-05 Thread Ushadi micromini

Yes,  Kanakchampa...  Pterospermum acerifolium ...

used to be a popular street tree in Calcutta...
until  very cheap Gulmohar  nursery stock took over  (which used to
sell for as low as ONE  indian rupee per 3 foot nursery stock, if one
wanted  it for street planting) ...!!!

Flowers from Mature trees fill the air with sweet smell for a couple
of weeks
Usha di
=





On Aug 5, 9:15 pm, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pterospermum acerifolium yes    kanakchampa



 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote:

  I too think that this is Pterospermum acerifolium of Sterculiaceae
  family. Not Pterocarpus, for sure.

  Regards,
  Giby

  On Aug 5, 11:23 am, Anantanarayan Rajaram rajaram_an...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
   I am attaching a few pics of Pterocarpus acerifolium which I took at the
  Amrita University campus near Coimbatore last month in July. Searching the
  efloraofindia group, there does not seem to be any previous mention of this
  species.Thanks and regards
   Rajaram

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    Pt.acerifolium mat.bark.jpg
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 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

[efloraofindia:76205] Re: Pterocarpus acerifolium

2011-08-05 Thread Ushadi micromini

Neil. small point... Muchakunda in Bengali and hindi refers to
Pterospermum suberifolim... (not acerifolium)...
Usha di


On Aug 5, 1:02 pm, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,
  There seems to be a mistake. It should be Pterospermum acerofolium [Kanak 
 Champa, Muchkund]. Will send my photographs of this later.
     Regards,
   Neil Soares.

 --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Anantanarayan Rajaram rajaram_an...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Anantanarayan Rajaram rajaram_an...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [efloraofindia:76092] Pterocarpus acerifolium
 To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 11:53 AM

 I am attaching a few pics of Pterocarpus acerifolium which I took at the 
 Amrita University campus near Coimbatore last month in July. Searching the 
 efloraofindia group, there does not seem to be any previous mention of this 
 species.Thanks and regards
 Rajaram

[efloraofindia:76206] Re: Pterospermum acerifolium CORRECTION name , Local name : Kanak champa

2011-08-05 Thread Ushadi micromini



On Aug 6, 10:42 am, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Neil. small point... Muchakunda in Bengali and hindi refers to
 Pterospermum suberifolim... (not acerifolium)...
 Usha di
 

 On Aug 5, 1:02 pm, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Hi,
   There seems to be a mistake. It should be Pterospermum acerofolium [Kanak 
  Champa, Muchkund]. Will send my photographs of this later.
      Regards,
    Neil Soares.

  --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Anantanarayan Rajaram rajaram_an...@yahoo.com wrote:

  From: Anantanarayan Rajaram rajaram_an...@yahoo.com
  Subject: [efloraofindia:76092] Pterocarpus acerifolium
  To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
  Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 11:53 AM

  I am attaching a few pics of Pterocarpus acerifolium which I took at the 
  Amrita University campus near Coimbatore last month in July. Searching the 
  efloraofindia group, there does not seem to be any previous mention of this 
  species.Thanks and regards
  Rajaram

[efloraofindia:76205] Re: Pterospermum acerifolium CORRECTION name , Local name : Kanak champa

2011-08-05 Thread Ushadi micromini


Neil. small point...
Muchakunda in Bengali and Hindi refers to   * Pterospermum
suberifolim...*
 (not * P. acerifolium* ...which is Kanak champa in most north indian
vernaculars)...

 Usha di

===


On Aug 5, 1:20 pm, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,
   My photographs of Pterospermum acerofolium.
   Regards,
    Neil Soares.

 --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:76104] Pterocarpus acerifolium
 To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, Anantanarayan Rajaram 
 rajaram_an...@yahoo.com
 Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 1:32 PM

 Hi,
  There seems to be a mistake. It should be Pterospermum acerofolium [Kanak 
 Champa, Muchkund]. Will send my photographs of this later.
     Regards,
   Neil Soares.

 --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Anantanarayan Rajaram rajaram_an...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Anantanarayan Rajaram rajaram_an...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [efloraofindia:76092] Pterocarpus acerifolium
 To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 11:53 AM

 I am attaching a few pics of Pterocarpus acerifolium which I took at the 
 Amrita University campus near Coimbatore last month in July. Searching the 
 efloraofindia group, there does not seem to be any previous mention of this 
 species.Thanks and regards
 Rajaram

  Pterospermum acerfolium, Kanak Champa 1.jpg
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Re: [efloraofindia:76227] Re: Pterocarpus acerifolium

2011-08-06 Thread ushadi Micromini

Hello Neil,
Neither am I , I look up several classical texts and books...

No problem. matter of fact ever since I started studying Ayurvedic medicine
/ herbs and learning binomial names and the reconciling them with the
traditional and vernacular Indian names has been difficult... if not
mind-boggling... often there is a lot of duplication with opposite meaning
sometimes... to confuse the issue ... Kalidas named something different
from the person who wrote Kadambari...or Ramayana and those concerned with
Mahabharata and those who wrote Shushrut and Charak texts originally all
those thousands of years ago...

AND then multiply it with the tribal names... when you begin to study some
ethnobotany

Phew!!! That's why a spread sheet with binomial and vernacular names gets
soo unweildy...

Usha di

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi,
Fair enough ! Am not good at local names, but Muchkund was the name on
the sapling bought fom a Botanical garden in Pune. Also Muchkund is the name
used by Mr.Ingalhalikar in his second volume of ' More Flowers of the
Sayadris'.
Regards,
Neil Soares.

--- On *Sat, 8/6/11, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com* wrote:

From: Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:76205] Re: Pterocarpus acerifolium
To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 11:12 AM

Neil. small point... Muchakunda in Bengali and hindi refers to
Pterospermum suberifolim... (not acerifolium)...
Usha di

On Aug 5, 1:02 pm, Neil Soares
drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Hi,
There seems to be a mistake. It should be Pterospermum acerofolium
[Kanak Champa, Muchkund]. Will send my photographs of this later.
Regards,
Neil Soares.

--- On Fri, 8/5/11, Anantanarayan Rajaram
rajaram_an...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rajaram_an...@yahoo.com
wrote:

From: Anantanarayan Rajaram
rajaram_an...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rajaram_an...@yahoo.com

Subject: [efloraofindia:76092] Pterocarpus acerifolium
To:
indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 11:53 AM

I am attaching a few pics of Pterocarpus acerifolium which I took at the
Amrita University campus near Coimbatore last month in July. Searching the
efloraofindia group, there does not seem to be any previous mention of this
species.Thanks and regards
Rajaram

Re: [efloraofindia:76229] Re: Pterospermum acerifolium CORRECTION name ,Local name : Kanak champa

2011-08-06 Thread ushadi Micromini

Madhuirji:
yes you are right... about the colors...and the previous point, I seem to
have missed the discussion...
and
No, you have the size of the flower mixed up...
the P. suberifolium flower is about 1.5 to 2.0 inches long, and its
fruit/capsule id 2 to 3 inches long...
while
P. acerifolium flower is about 5 inches long , the capsule is 5-6 inches
long...

that's a quick way to differentiate...

We have several p. acerifolium trees in the streets of my neighbourhood and
the Dhaukira lakes...
and have to go to the zoo to find the P. suberifolium...

next spring I will go deligently and take pictures of both ...  would be
interesting...
Thanks
Usha di


=

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:21 PM, formpeja...@yahoo.com wrote:

 This is what I was trying to explain Sarkar ji in one of his Valmiki
 thread, that Muchkund and Kanakchapa are different. But as I don't remember
 the Sc. Name and no one else objected I kept quite.
 Kanakchapa has golden colour thick sepals while Muchkund has white ones.
 Flowers of Kanakchampa are smaller while of Muchkund larger.
 Madhuri
 Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

 -Original Message-
 From: Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com
 Sender: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 22:48:53
 To: efloraofindiaindiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [efloraofindia:76205] Re: Pterospermum acerifolium CORRECTION name
 ,
  Local name : Kanak champa


 Neil. small point...
 Muchakunda in Bengali and Hindi refers to   * Pterospermum
 suberifolim...*
  (not * P. acerifolium* ...which is Kanak champa in most north indian
 vernaculars)...

  Usha di

 ===


 On Aug 5, 1:20 pm, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Hi,
My photographs of Pterospermum acerofolium.
Regards,
 Neil Soares.
 
  --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  From: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:76104] Pterocarpus acerifolium
  To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, Anantanarayan Rajaram 
 rajaram_an...@yahoo.com
  Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 1:32 PM
 
  Hi,
   There seems to be a mistake. It should be Pterospermum acerofolium
 [Kanak Champa, Muchkund]. Will send my photographs of this later.
  Regards,
Neil Soares.
 
  --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Anantanarayan Rajaram rajaram_an...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Anantanarayan Rajaram rajaram_an...@yahoo.com
  Subject: [efloraofindia:76092] Pterocarpus acerifolium
  To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
  Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 11:53 AM
 
  I am attaching a few pics of Pterocarpus acerifolium which I took at the
 Amrita University campus near Coimbatore last month in July. Searching the
 efloraofindia group, there does not seem to be any previous mention of this
 species.Thanks and regards
  Rajaram
 
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[efloraofindia:76255] Re: Pterospermum for ID : 060811 : AK-1

2011-08-06 Thread ushadi Micromini

Aarti ji : Neil has said it

for my part I am not that astute... I can't definitely diagnose the species
from these two pictures...
I generally would like a complete profile , and a little more details, and
size...
do you have complete views of leaves for shape, surface and size?

thanks
usha di..
===

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Usha di, Madhuri ji, Dr Balkar ji, Dr Neil ji, Dr Giby ji, Shrikant
 ji, kindly id these pictures.
 Taken at Jijamata Udya, Mumbai on 15/4/11.
 After reading the discussion about the two diff species, I am posting
 these.
 Is it Muchkund or Kanak Champa?
 Regards,
 Aarti

Re: [efloraofindia:76258] Rose apple Syzygium jambos from flower to seedlings across continents UD 08 05 2011 001

2011-08-06 Thread ushadi Micromini

Across continents  in the subject line means: :
the top tree is from Northern suburbs of Los Angeles in 2010 I think, or
08...
the second is from an arboretum in orange county , southern california,
( a third tree foto not included because it was an old ptint) had been from
24 paraganas in West bengal,
and the fruits are from Baruipur area West Bengal, bought at the lake market
satellite shop...
and the seedlings are in my balconyin West Bengal
phew... seven seas, seven oceans and seven continents apart

I might as well have been to the moon and back...

Usha di




On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice perfect presentation


 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Nicely illustratedthanks Dr. Usha for showing the seeds of this, never
 seen so clearly.

 Regards

 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi



 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:10 AM, ushadi Micromini 
 microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All:
 Recently we had a very short season of Rose apple in Kolkata...

 Family: *Myrtaceae*
 *Syzyygium jambos* Alston *Synonyms:   Eugenia jambos* L.   and*Jambosa
 jambos* Millsp.
 It has an interesting small, which is best perceived when one bites into
 the fruit...
 the seed rattles inside, and if one handles it roughly, the pale soft
 skin bruises easily and turns brown...

 I brought some home, the first of the season got eaten rapidly, nobody
 would let me take pictures...

 With the second set (next week) I could get some pictures and keep the
 seeds for my experiments...

 Here's the result  in pictures...
 There is imperceptible ridges on the outer skin.. size is variable from
 the same tree ( my vendor's own)
 The fruit is hollow, thin wall...
 seeds have brown skin, usually one seed with a few embroys inside ( see
 later)
 one seed had two skin coated halves, one of which was very eager, and had
 started sprouting already...

 Many years ago I had searched for the rose apple on the net and found*Julia 
 Morton's
 * write up
 the most complete, on reviewing these few lines intriguing and worth
 repeating...
 I quote:
 *   Fruit  : *In *1849*, it was announced in Bengal that the ripe
 fruits, with seeds removed, could be distilled 4 times to make a rosewater
 equal to the best obtained from rose petals..

 *Medicinal Uses: *In India, the fruit is regarded as a tonic for the
 brain and liver. An infusion of the fruit acts as a diuretic.

 A sweetened preparation of the flowers is believed to reduce fever. The
 seeds are employed against diarrhea, dysentery and catarrh.
   end quote.  This whole essay can be seen at URL:

 http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/rose_apple.html
 enjoy
 Usha di







 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

[efloraofindia:76267] Re: Dolichandrone falcata

2011-08-06 Thread Ushadi micromini

very nice,
my question: what month  do you find the flowers,
and then when does the seedpod develop and ripen..
I COULD NOT SEE YOUR EXIF DATA SO COULD NOT ET THE DATES OF
PICTURES

HENCE THE QUESTION...
thanks
Usha di
-

On Aug 6, 4:13 pm, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank You Mani ji.

 Regards,

 Samir

 On Aug 6, 8:18 am, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote:

  Samir ji, Excellent photo.
  Thanks for sharing,
  Regards,
  Mani.

[efloraofindia:76269] Re: Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) Week: Trachyspermum ammi from Delhi

2011-08-06 Thread Ushadi micromini

AAAH, love this...
along with fennel, Sowa a little sugar and alcohol for preservation
this ajwain... is in Gripe water...Generic kind...
raise your hand if you have not tasted gripe water..I am counting

Usha di


On Aug 6, 7:42 pm, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 *Trachyspermum ammi* (L.) Sprague in Kew Bull. 228. 1929.
 syn: *Trachyspermum* *copticum* (L.) Link; *Carum* *copticum* (L.) C.B.
 Clarke

 Common names: Ajwain, Ajowan, Bishop's weed

 Annual herb with leaves with linear segments; Rays 8-16, involcre bracts
 pinnate; involucel linear or pinnate; fruit 2 mm long, ovoid, ridges not
 prominent.

 Photographed from Delhi.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

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[efloraofindia:76289] Re: Banyan tree or Ficus benghalensis god's own land escape

2011-08-07 Thread Ushadi micromini

I am not sure what these pictures are telling a story of...
the pictures remain thumbnails only even when viewing  !!!

if there is a story here can you please tell me...
your subject line is interesting and then cant see anything really..
.
Thanks
Usha di
===

On Aug 7, 1:35 pm, Vedprakash Singh vpsingh.nag...@gmail.com wrote:
 Photoshots at Khapa village 3 kms from the Pench Sillari gate  landscape en
 route Pawani, while returning.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 10:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:76201] attachments to get identified
 To: Vedprakash Singh vpsingh.nag...@gmail.com

 Thanks for showing this old tree.
 The images are of the size far more than 150kb. The account gets flooded
 with big size images and they are difficult to open too.You can recompose
 the mail reducing the size of images and making the subject line of a known
 tree by its name ...Banyan tree or Ficus benghalensis.(Example)and send to
 email indiantree...@gmail.com.new thread of that subject line starts which
 is easy to retrieve and search too ..say after few months or years.
 People will reply in the thread and an interesting discussion of old banyn
 trees which are known might start. You can do it or I will do it for you
 after few days
 Dr Phadke

 On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Vedprakash Singh
 vpsingh.nag...@gmail.comwrote:

  encouraged. will certainly follow the guidelines doc

  incidentally, a 400 year old banyan tree exist near sillari gate of pench
  tiger reserve  ..posting recent shots

  thank you

  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com
  Date: Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:76201] attachments to get identified
  To: Vedprakash Singh vpsingh.nag...@gmail.com
  Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

  Yes this is* Jatropha gossypifolia* from euphorbiaceae indeed.
  By the way may I request you to make the subject line according to posting
  guidelines. We collect huge data and classify it which requires a lot of
  efforts. Generally we discourage the subject lines Plant for ID. For
  ID.For identification.etc as the mails often get clubbed with other similar
  subject lines.
  Just to guide you ...the ideal subject line for your above post
  would be like this..
  *Plant for ID 060811VS1*
  The middle number denotes the date followed by your initials . The number
  1 thereafter indicates your post number on that day. If you post another
  plant on the same day it would be like this.
  *Plant for ID 060811VS*2
  Keep posting. We want many many queries.
  Regards
  Dr Phadke

  On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Vedprakash Singh vpsingh.nag...@gmail.com
   wrote:

  Id pl. possibly with desi names to ..is this 'erandi' ?
  Location - Pench Tiger Reserve



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[efloraofindia:76290] Re: Dioscorea bulbifera : Air potato

2011-08-07 Thread Ushadi micromini

Satish and Neil...Thank you both for showing these flowers...
now I want to grow this here in my yard!!!
will have to find a local village where we can find these bulbils...

Ushadi
==

On Aug 6, 10:26 pm, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
Nice catch from both of you
Thanks for sharing
Tanay

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi,
These are some more of mine. Have recently posted photographs of the
bulbils, these have more to do with the flowers
Regards,
Neil Soares.

--- On *Sat, 8/6/11, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com* wrote:

From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:76218] Dioscorea bulbifera : Air potato
To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 2:12 PM

This climber is present in large scales near Shedani Devrai Mulshi.
Some climbers were flowering as seen in the picture.
The young flowers are white whereas the mature ones turn purple pink.
The developing bulbils are also seen in Image 3544
Dr Phadke

[efloraofindia:76319] Re: OROXYLUM INDICUM

2011-08-07 Thread ushadi Micromini

Yes, I know,   and NOT only ONE there are three Orozylum indicum trees there
 and now likely  many small seedlings...
Usha di
==

On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 8:57 PM, K S Ray kshounish...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think there is a similar tree inside Chintamani Kar Bird Sanctuary,
 Narendrapur, southern Kolkata.

 Regards,
 Kshounish Ray

 On Aug 4, 8:26 pm, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:
  Bimal da: that's what  I thought, that it was common only in the
  himalayn foot hills...
  but I have found it in Bihar, Chhatisgarh , Bengal country
  sides...driving around... and here at eflorathere are examples that it
  also grows well in the western ghats...
 
  Nice to know...
  Usha di
  ==
  On Aug 4, 7:26 pm, Col Bimal Sarkar colbimalsar...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Dear Friend,
  In 1967 while coming back from Sikkim to
 Darjeeling,we stopped at the bridge on river Teesta.While walking on the
 road I picked up a trasparent papery substance and  asked a local person
 about the identity of the substance.He told me that it is known as CHAMPA .
 In 1983 Mr Kharto ( Tibetan instructor ) wanted to know about the tree known
 as CHAMPA to the BHUDDHISTS .I could not enlighten him as to me CHAMA was
 Michelia champaca.It was in Udhampur(1998),I opened a dry pod of Oroxylum
 indicum and saw the papery seeds inside I understood what CHAMPA means to a
 BUDDHIST.My friend Sonam told me that Bhuddhist use the pods and the seeds
 in worship of Buddha.This tree is very common at this place.It is known as
 Ullu in Hindi and Sona in Bangla.
 This is what S venkatesh tells about the tree,
 
The tree is conspicuous in the forest when it
 bears its scabbard-like fruits which breaks open to release its flat,papery
 and winged seeds.
   Some of you may not like to receive the images I post.Please
 feel fre e to let me know so that I may not burden you with these.
   Regards
   Col (Retd) Bimal Sarkar
   Mobile: 9434194942
 
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Re: [efloraofindia:76320] Re: Banyan tree or Ficus benghalensis god's own land escape

2011-08-07 Thread ushadi Micromini

then, I hope you'll be good enough to post viewable pictures , and not 12 k
thumbnails...that's all...

good to preserve and get people to be involved in banyan trees around the
country...
and so, one need to post good praiseworthy pictures...

Usha di


On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Vedprakash Singh
vpsingh.nag...@gmail.comwrote:

 di ...these days i am photographing old banyan trees and shortly will be
 posting one on NH 7 ( Nagpur - Jabalpur section ),  around which,  mp
 tourism dept. has built a road side resort 'bison retreat' ( near  kurai, on
 the ghat section before seoni, part of pench tiger reserve mp side )

 this respectable giant s huge and claimed to be more than 500 years old.

 for my other photo journeys, find time to visit my site
 www.foresteedge.webs .com, here i tried to mix business with hobby, thank
 you.

 regards
 v p singh

 On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Ushadi micromini 
 microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am not sure what these pictures are telling a story of...
 the pictures remain thumbnails only even when viewing  !!!

 if there is a story here can you please tell me...
 your subject line is interesting and then cant see anything really..
 .
 Thanks
 Usha di
 ===

 On Aug 7, 1:35 pm, Vedprakash Singh vpsingh.nag...@gmail.com wrote:
  Photoshots at Khapa village 3 kms from the Pench Sillari gate 
 landscape en
  route Pawani, while returning.
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com
  Date: Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 10:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:76201] attachments to get identified
  To: Vedprakash Singh vpsingh.nag...@gmail.com
 
  Thanks for showing this old tree.
  The images are of the size far more than 150kb. The account gets flooded
  with big size images and they are difficult to open too.You can
 recompose
  the mail reducing the size of images and making the subject line of a
 known
  tree by its name ...Banyan tree or Ficus benghalensis.(Example)and
 send to
  email indiantree...@gmail.com.new thread of that subject line starts
 which
  is easy to retrieve and search too ..say after few months or years.
  People will reply in the thread and an interesting discussion of old
 banyn
  trees which are known might start. You can do it or I will do it for you
  after few days
  Dr Phadke
 
  On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Vedprakash Singh
  vpsingh.nag...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   encouraged. will certainly follow the guidelines doc
 
   incidentally, a 400 year old banyan tree exist near sillari gate of
 pench
   tiger reserve  ..posting recent shots
 
   thank you
 
   -- Forwarded message --
   From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com
   Date: Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM
   Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:76201] attachments to get identified
   To: Vedprakash Singh vpsingh.nag...@gmail.com
   Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 
   Yes this is* Jatropha gossypifolia* from euphorbiaceae indeed.
   By the way may I request you to make the subject line according to
 posting
   guidelines. We collect huge data and classify it which requires a lot
 of
   efforts. Generally we discourage the subject lines Plant for ID.
 For
   ID.For identification.etc as the mails often get clubbed with other
 similar
   subject lines.
   Just to guide you ...the ideal subject line for your above
 post
   would be like this..
   *Plant for ID 060811VS1*
   The middle number denotes the date followed by your initials . The
 number
   1 thereafter indicates your post number on that day. If you post
 another
   plant on the same day it would be like this.
   *Plant for ID 060811VS*2
   Keep posting. We want many many queries.
   Regards
   Dr Phadke
 
   On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Vedprakash Singh 
 vpsingh.nag...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
   Id pl. possibly with desi names to ..is this 'erandi' ?
   Location - Pench Tiger Reserve
 
 
 
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[efloraofindia:76334] Re: Chamba id al070811a

2011-08-07 Thread Ushadi micromini



On Aug 7, 10:36 pm, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 Welcome Alok Ji

 On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Alok Mahendroo alokisabe...@gmail.comwrote:



  Thanks Balkar ji, for the instant response...
  Regards
  Alok
  On Sun, 2011-08-07 at 23:00 +0530, Balkar Arya wrote:
   Solanum virginianum
  --
  Himalayan Village Education Trust
  Village Khudgot,
  P.O. Dalhousie
  District Chamba
  H.P. 176304, India

 www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
 www.forwildlife.wordpress.com

 http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on_new...

 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

[efloraofindia:76335] Re: Chamba id al070811a

2011-08-07 Thread Ushadi micromini

is this one of the several Kanta kari s that the herbal dealers sell
in India:
Usha di
===

On Aug 7, 10:30 pm, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 *Solanum virginianum*

 On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Alok Mahendroo alokisabe...@gmail.comwrote:



  Dear friends,
  Now I will be posting a series of photos from higher regions of Chamba,
  Himachal (ranging from 1100 mts to 5000 mts) starting my journey with
  this one found at the beginning of my travel

  Location Chamba
  Altitude 1100 mts
  Habit herb
  Habitat wild - roadside
  Height 5 inches

  regards
  Alok
  --
  Himalayan Village Education Trust
  Village Khudgot,
  P.O. Dalhousie
  District Chamba
  H.P. 176304, India

 www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
 www.forwildlife.wordpress.com

 http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on_new...

 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

[efloraofindia:76343] Re: Fw: [Hariyali] Fw: Recent articles in Hariyali [2 Attachments]

2011-08-07 Thread Ushadi micromini

no links no pics 

On Aug 8, 12:36 am, Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.com wrote:
 For those who can understand Marathi.
 Those who cant Visuals are self explainatory
 Madhuri

  

         [Attachment(s) from Punam Singavi included below]

  

 Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 8:14 PM
 Subject: Recent articles in Hariyali

 Namaste!
 Attached please find the two articles on
 Bhavale-Lonad Project of Hariyali which got published during last two
 days: 
 1. Anokhi Hariyali - Mumbai Times (Maharashtra
 Times), Saturday, 6th August 2011 by Shri S.V. Nerlekar; and
 2. Hariyali and Thane Van vibhagacha Samyukta
 Vanvikas Prakalp: Sanmitra, Sunday, 7th August 2011 by Punam Singavi.

 Please circulate the same amongst your contacts and
 do visit the site one of these day.s
 Regards.
 Punam Singavi 

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[efloraofindia:76346] Re: Flora of Panipat- Carissa carandas from Herbal Garden samalkha

2011-08-07 Thread Ushadi micromini

Very nice,  this is their season...
just bought some Karamada fruits and made chutney, yum!

 (i'll post my pics of Carissa plants across continents today
if I can manage to resize crop etc soon..)

Usha di
==

On Aug 7, 10:38 pm, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All
 *Carissa carandas*
 From Herbal garden Samalkha panipat
 Family
 Apocynaceae
 Also known as Karonda
 cultivated
  fruits used to make pickles
 *
 *
 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

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[efloraofindia:76396] Re: Succulent for ID : 080811 : AK-1

2011-08-08 Thread Ushadi micromini

A sedum
usha di


On Aug 8, 12:44 pm, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.com wrote:
 A small garden plant, quite common.
 Taken at Pune, Maharashtra on 4/6/07.
 Kindly id.
 Aarti

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[efloraofindia:76431] Re: Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) Week

2011-08-08 Thread Ushadi micromini

Gurucharanji:
Salute...
yes a wonderful week/month... so many new plants, esp from the
Kashmir state and the Himalyas, and those from your home in
 Kashmir, along with childhood memories that you shared...
PRICELESS stuff

do you keep count of how many specimen were shown?
I saw so many new things, I lost count...

Thanks  for another successful event.
Usha di
=


On Aug 8, 8:20 pm, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Congrats, and thanks Gurcharan ji and all for an another successful episode.

 I could not contribute for some reasons but I learnt a lot and wish to go
 through all the posts in the episode once again when I find time, to get
 familiarize with the members of the Apiaceae, a confusing family to me.

 Regards

 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi

 On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yes Sir another nice week co-ordinated by you. I have seen many new plants
  in this week.

  On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

  Another monthly episode has just concluded, this time focussing on family
  Apiaceae, known primarily for spices, but having good representation of 
  wild
  as well cultivated plants. Thanks to all who posted both identified as well
  as plants for ID.

  --
  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
  Retired  Associate Professor
  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

  --
  Regards

  Dr Balkar Singh
  Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
  Arya P G College, Panipat
  Haryana-132103
  09416262964

[efloraofindia:76445] Re: Succulent for ID : 080811 : AK-2

2011-08-08 Thread Ushadi micromini


Dear FOLKS, you  are confusing me

It's  not saying much that its 100% Crassulaceae...
which is  a large family of diverse succulents...

Sedum group belongs to family  Crassulaceae...
so does a  group called Crassula...

and structurally the Crassula and Sedum share so
many features that a single photograph may not be enough for ID...
One needs (as I do as a NON-TAXONOMIST, NON- BOTANIST)
to observe the plant ... its growing habits, branching, leaf anatomy,
 branch/stem anatomy and nodes
flowers... size shape anatomy and seasons it flowers and how often

Sedums generally are ground hugging, almost always no more
 than 6 inches high, often trailing branches... often growing 10 to
12
inches or more long... I have grown some sedums where the trailing
branches grew 10 or 12 inches ..before flowering...

Crassulas (where Jade plants belong)  can be supine on delicate stems
or
 (mostly) erect on thickish stems...


SO AARTI JI: HAS TO WRITE UP THE HISTORY OF THIS PLANT...
 ha ha ... or observe it for a while...and take pictures over time...


AND NEIl ji's Anacampseros filamentosa.belongs to Portulacaceae..
so it would be beneficial for Aartiji to see what kind of flower
develops...

UNTILL THEN... I WOULD WAIT FOR SOME ONE SPECIALIZING
IN THE TAXONOMY OF SUCCULENTS and CACTI

Thanks
Usha di
===



On Aug 9, 12:09 am, Dr  Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote:
 No sir, this is 100% Crassulaceae.
 Pankaj

 On Aug 8, 10:05 pm, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Hi,
   This is Anacampseros filamentosa. Grew up with these in the rock garden of 
  my bungalow in Santa Cruz, Bombay, but now unfortunately have lost interest 
  in ornamentals.
    Regards,
      Neil Soares.

  --- On Mon, 8/8/11, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote:

  From: Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comy
  Subject: [efloraofindia:76416] Re: Succulent for ID : 080811 : AK-2
  To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
  Date: Monday, August 8, 2011, 9:57 PM

  This is actually not Sedum. I know the plant as I had it in my garden.
  I thought I identified this as Crassula in the garden. Its there in
  the TROPICA or EXOTICA if anyone has the access..
  Pankaj

  On Aug 8, 6:20 pm, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

   Yes its Sedum again Aarti Ji
   Tanay

   On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Mohan V. Chunkath
   mohan.chunk...@gmail.comwrote:

Looks like some kind of Sedum.
Regards,
Mohan

On Aug 8, 12:47 pm, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Again taken at Pune, Maharashtra on 4/6/07.
 A similar plant to the first one posted.
 Small garden plant.
 Aarti

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   Department of Botany.
   University of British Columbia .
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   Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
   Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
              604-822-2019 (Lab)
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[efloraofindia:76454] Re: Flora of Kaiga_ID_Confirmation08082011 PJ1

2011-08-08 Thread Ushadi micromini

We have talked about this before.. Epiphyllum oxypetalum

Its one of the Night blooming cereus...(there are several)
I had a cutting or two once from Swami Rama of the Himalayas...
he had several growing near his kutir in Honesdale, PA.
we used to wait (some more dedicated students were more diligent than
I )
for the flower to bloom at night...
From tiny cuttings I grew several plants, and inside the apartment
I got them to bloom a few times..
unfortunately no bats flew by to pollinate them... no fruits!!!

Its fruits are called dragon fruit... a delicacy in Thailand...
and now a days its served here in Calcutta by some
enterprizing young chefs at five stars...

our previous discussion here was at :
http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/6da8cbf9eb9970f7/c5de7a065b291f21?lnk=gstq=cereus+ushadi#c5de7a065b291f21

Usha di

On Aug 9, 12:13 am, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote:
Epiphyllum oxypetalum
Pankaj

On Aug 8, 7:28 pm, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote:

You are right.
It is *Ephiphyllum* *oxypetalum.
*Currently it is flowering in batches here in Pune*.*Maharashtra*.
*We had several discussions earlier on the difference between this and the
true Brahma kamal from Himalayas. You can search it.*
*
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:35 PM, PUTTARAJU K pakshirajka...@gmail.comwrote:

Dear All,

ID Confirmation plz ..Is this *Ephiphyllum* *oxypetalum , locally it is
called brahma kamal . During my college days , I had been for higher
altitude expidition to Himalayas there also I found Brahma kamal which was
totally different from this.I had photographed this in film camera.Please
clarify with details links.*

Date/Time-: 2/08/11 - 21:00

Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380 mtrs

Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- wild

Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Shrub

Height/Length - 1m

-
With Regards,
PUTTARAJU K,
SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
KARNATAKA -581400
MOB : 9448999150
EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
kputtar...@npcil.co.in

[efloraofindia:76455] Re: Flora of Panipat: Tabernaemontana divaricata from Arya PG College panipat

2011-08-08 Thread Ushadi micromini

Yes. Its a very popular street planting in side smaller streets...in
calcutta... Harish mukherjee street is fulll of these as are some
streets in North calcutta...

Usha di

On Aug 9, 7:04 am, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes Balkar ji
 Nice one

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

 On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear All
  Tabernaemontana divaricata  from Arya PG College panipat

  --
  Regards

  Dr Balkar Singh
  Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
  Arya P G College, Panipat
  Haryana-132103
  09416262964

[efloraofindia:76475] Re: Helixanthera wallichiana from Silent Valley.

2011-08-09 Thread Ushadi micromini

Spectacular, never seen it...
thanks, Giby.
Usha di
===

On Aug 8, 9:32 pm, Dr  Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Beautiful pic Gibs.
 By the way, the Disperis you have there is Disperis zeylanica and not
 neilgherense.
 I want both flowers plzzz.
 Pankaj

 On Aug 8, 9:22 pm, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear Srikant ji,

  Thank you very much for the information and encouraging comment.

  I will recheck the same when I get live specimen.
  Unfortunately we were not allowed to collect specimens during the
  field visit. I had gone with IISc team who had permission only to
  collect amphibians and reptiles, hence I don't have specimen with me.

  From my field notebook I recollect that the flowers were around 1cm
  (max 1.5cm no precise measurement is available) - long.

  When I rerun the key, I could learnt that H. obtusatus branchlets
  inflorescence and/or sometimes leaves more or less furfuraceous (Made
  of or covered with scaly particles, such as dandruff) and leaf base is
  rounded/acute/auricled whereas, in my specimen leaves, branchlets and
  inflorescence were glabrous as mentioned in the key provided by Gamble
  (described as L wallichiana) and the leaf base was narrowed at the
  base.

  I had experimented and experienced a variation in flower length of
  flowers of Dendrophthoe falcata and D nilgirica from populations from
  KMTR (Tirunelveli) and the Nilgiries (Priya Davidars JBNHS paper). I
  had presented this work in the 5th International Canopy conference
  held in Bangalore in 2009.

  Thanks and Regards
  Giby

  On Aug 8, 5:29 pm, shrikant ingalhalikar le...@rediffmail.com wrote:

   Nice picture Giby, but pls check flower size. I think this to be H.
   obtusata. Flowers appear to be about 2 cm long and with narrow long
   lobes. H. wallichiana flowers are just 5-6 mm long with short lobes.
   Regards, Shrikant

   On Aug 8, 5:01 pm, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote:

Thank you very much  Vijay and Samir ji for your comments.

Regards,
Giby

On 8 August 2011 10:21, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very nice picture, Giby. Thanks for sharing the habit picture, too.

 Regards

 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi

 On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Giby Kuriakose 
 giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Helixanthera wallichiana* of Loranthaceae family, an endemic, rare,
 hemi-parasitic shrub from Silent Valley National Park, Kerala The 
 Picture
 was taken during a field visit in April 2007.

 Close up
http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby/1418089994/in/photostream

 Habitat picture is available @
http://www.parasiticplants.siu.edu/Loranthaceae/images/HelixantheraWa...
 .
 This habit picture was taken by my friend Dr K A Subramanian 
 (Scientist C
 ZSI, Kolcatta) during the same field trip.

 Regards,
 Giby

 --
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 Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE),
 Royal Enclave,
 Jakkur Post, Srirampura
 Bangalore- 560064
 India
 Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile)
 visit my pictures @http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby

--
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Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE),
Royal Enclave,
Jakkur Post, Srirampura
Bangalore- 560064
India
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[efloraofindia:76599] Re: 09082011-BS-001 A small tree for ID from Munak Road Karnal

2011-08-10 Thread Ushadi micromini

Dear Balkar ji:
New to my eyes, though my ears had heard about this...

My Dad's wood furniture polish guy had talked of some tree whose
 leaves were used by his father for the final poilsh on small
 delicate ornamental pieces...

I /we thought he was shooting the breeze and pulling our legs
 that day many years ago...  he said it was called Sheora...
he talked of some other leaves that were also quite rough like
fine sandpaper...  I wish I had written down the list...
such memories are priceless... little did I know..
It had taken me awhile to track down that bengali name,
and then discovered  he was not being funny, he was in the earnest...
I had found it in Tinkodi Ghosh’s Bonaushadhi book ..


I had forgotten that episode..

Untill today, I googled your tree name ..
and the story floated up from deep recesses of the memory bank...

MY Question:   did you get to feel the surface of the leaves?
is it really  rough enough to be used as polishing material?


Usha di




On Aug 10, 12:00 pm, Pinki alok12...@gmail.com wrote:
 Surely Streblus asper

 Alok

 On Aug 9, 10:06 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear All
  Small tree roadside area on Munak Road Karnal for id pls
  Wild but may be planted by forest dept as only 2-3 trees were there on whole
  25 KM stretch
  Flowers not seen  Fruits orange colored
  simple leaves
  Thanks

  --
  Regards

  Dr Balkar Singh
  Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
  Arya P G College, Panipat
  Haryana-132103
  09416262964

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Re: [efloraofindia:76633] Re: 09082011-BS-001 A small tree for ID from Munak Road Karnal

2011-08-10 Thread ushadi Micromini

yes, but what about my question:
i repeat  it here

MY Question:   did you get to feel the surface of the leaves?
is it really  rough enough to be used as polishing material?

end repeat...
usha di
===

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks UshaJi for the information

 On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Ushadi micromini 
 microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Balkar ji:
 New to my eyes, though my ears had heard about this...

 My Dad's wood furniture polish guy had talked of some tree whose
  leaves were used by his father for the final poilsh on small
  delicate ornamental pieces...

 I /we thought he was shooting the breeze and pulling our legs
  that day many years ago...  he said it was called Sheora...
 he talked of some other leaves that were also quite rough like
 fine sandpaper...  I wish I had written down the list...
 such memories are priceless... little did I know..
 It had taken me awhile to track down that bengali name,
 and then discovered  he was not being funny, he was in the earnest...
 I had found it in Tinkodi Ghosh’s Bonaushadhi book ..


 I had forgotten that episode..

 Untill today, I googled your tree name ..
 and the story floated up from deep recesses of the memory bank...

 MY Question:   did you get to feel the surface of the leaves?
 is it really  rough enough to be used as polishing material?


 Usha di
 



 On Aug 10, 12:00 pm, Pinki alok12...@gmail.com wrote:
  Surely Streblus asper
 
  Alok
 
  On Aug 9, 10:06 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Dear All
   Small tree roadside area on Munak Road Karnal for id pls
   Wild but may be planted by forest dept as only 2-3 trees were there on
 whole
   25 KM stretch
   Flowers not seen  Fruits orange colored
   simple leaves
   Thanks
 
   --
   Regards
 
   Dr Balkar Singh
   Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
   Arya P G College, Panipat
   Haryana-132103
   09416262964
 
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 Regards

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 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

[efloraofindia:76684] Re: Succulent for ID : 080811 : AK-2

2011-08-11 Thread ushadi Micromini

Dear Aarti: That's perfectly fine...
all hobby naturalists are not the same... some are compulsive and some are
not..
but I have learnt that a little compulsiveness goes a long way  in
keeping me happy...
and like Joseph Campbell used to say about what he learnt from Hindu
mythology and philosophy was that one must have fun (bliss is the word he
used) doing whatever it was one was doing, otherwise life's meaning is
lost... so I try try to keep myself happy by being compulsive about certain
things...

so you must do what brings fun to you...

Be well ... wherever you are going this time, bring back lots more fun stuff
for us to see...
Usha di
===




On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear all,
 Thanks for all the information.


 Usha di,
 I wish I could take more pictures over a period of time.
 The picture was taken very casually during a visit to Pune...at a
 friend's home garden.
 It may not always be possible to study such plants for a long period.
 We can only study plants and trees from our own garden or a place
 which we visit often.
 Most of my pictures are taken casually or while travelling making it
 impossible to study a particular plant in detail.
 Since I will be away for a while, may not be possible to reply later.
 Regards,
 Aarti

 On Aug 9, 6:07 am, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear FOLKS, you  are confusing me
 
  It's  not saying much that its 100% Crassulaceae...
  which is  a large family of diverse succulents...
 
  Sedum group belongs to family  Crassulaceae...
  so does a  group called Crassula...
 
  and structurally the Crassula and Sedum share so
  many features that a single photograph may not be enough for ID...
  One needs (as I do as a NON-TAXONOMIST, NON- BOTANIST)
  to observe the plant ... its growing habits, branching, leaf anatomy,
   branch/stem anatomy and nodes
  flowers... size shape anatomy and seasons it flowers and how often
 
  Sedums generally are ground hugging, almost always no more
   than 6 inches high, often trailing branches... often growing 10 to
  12
  inches or more long... I have grown some sedums where the trailing
  branches grew 10 or 12 inches ..before flowering...
 
  Crassulas (where Jade plants belong)  can be supine on delicate stems
  or
   (mostly) erect on thickish stems...
 
  SO AARTI JI: HAS TO WRITE UP THE HISTORY OF THIS PLANT...
   ha ha ... or observe it for a while...and take pictures over time...
 
  AND NEIl ji's Anacampseros filamentosa.belongs to Portulacaceae..
  so it would be beneficial for Aartiji to see what kind of flower
  develops...
 
  UNTILL THEN... I WOULD WAIT FOR SOME ONE SPECIALIZING
  IN THE TAXONOMY OF SUCCULENTS and CACTI
 
  Thanks
  Usha di
  ===
 
  On Aug 9, 12:09 am, Dr  Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   No sir, this is 100% Crassulaceae.
   Pankaj
 
   On Aug 8, 10:05 pm, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
Hi,
 This is Anacampseros filamentosa. Grew up with these in the rock
 garden of my bungalow in Santa Cruz, Bombay, but now unfortunately have lost
 interest in ornamentals.
  Regards,
Neil Soares.
 
--- On Mon, 8/8/11, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
From: Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comy
Subject: [efloraofindia:76416] Re: Succulent for ID : 080811 : AK-2
To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, August 8, 2011, 9:57 PM
 
This is actually not Sedum. I know the plant as I had it in my
 garden.
I thought I identified this as Crassula in the garden. Its there in
the TROPICA or EXOTICA if anyone has the access..
Pankaj
 
On Aug 8, 6:20 pm, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes its Sedum again Aarti Ji
 Tanay
 
 On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Mohan V. Chunkath
 mohan.chunk...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Looks like some kind of Sedum.
  Regards,
  Mohan
 
  On Aug 8, 12:47 pm, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Again taken at Pune, Maharashtra on 4/6/07.
   A similar plant to the first one posted.
   Small garden plant.
   Aarti
 
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 --
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 Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 3529-6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
604-822-2019 (Lab)
604-822-6089  (Fax)
 ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
 *Webpages:*
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[efloraofindia:76695] Re: Fern for ID : 100811 : AK-3

2011-08-11 Thread Ushadi micromini

Yes, the large leaf adaintum, called Kalo hansraj in Gujarati...
and just like th esmall leaf kalo hansraj, this adiantum  is also good
for the hair...
Kwath made (tea for the english minded :) ) from an handful of twigs
and leaves
will give the hair a shine like no other wash... and good for what
ails it..

Usha di
==

On Aug 11, 10:58 am, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dr Balkar ji, Mohan ji  Dr Pankaj ji,
 Many thanks for the id.
 Regards,
 Aarti

 On Aug 10, 8:57 pm, Mohan V. Chunkath mohan.chunk...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Adiantum is the maidenhair fern genus.
  Regards,
  Mohan

  On Aug 10, 9:38 pm, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:

   may be Adiantum trapeziforme orAdiantum macrophyllum

   On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
Adiantum sp

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Aarti S. Khale 
aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote:

Taken at Gangajal Nursery, Nasik on 16/9/09.
An ornamental fern, potted plant.
Cultivated.
Aarti

--
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964

   --
   Regards

   Dr Balkar Singh
   Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
   Arya P G College, Panipat
   Haryana-132103
   09416262964

[efloraofindia:76698] Re: Chamba - higher reaches id al100811

2011-08-11 Thread Ushadi micromini

Yes, Datura stramonium important fruits for Shiva temple puja...
Usha di
===



On Aug 10, 9:58 pm, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Datura stramonium

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

 On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Alok Mahendroo alokisabe...@gmail.comwrote:

  Dear friends,
  Flowers from my trek to the higher reaches in Chamba

  Datura stramonium

  Location Chamba
  Altitude 3000 mts
  Habit herb
  Habitat wild
  Plant height 2 feet

  regards
  Alok
  --
  Himalayan Village Education Trust
  Village Khudgot,
  P.O. Dalhousie
  District Chamba
  H.P. 176304, India

 www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
 www.forwildlife.wordpress.com

 http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on_new...

[efloraofindia:76723] Re: Echytes caryophyllata_malati in bloom (in continuation)

2011-08-11 Thread Ushadi micromini


Nice pictures of malati we know and love, thanks
Usha di
=
On Aug 12, 6:00 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice Pics Anand Ji. Thanks for sharing

 On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Anand Kumar Bhatt
 anandkbh...@gmail.comwrote:



  This is in continuation to my previous  message in this regard. I had
  forgotten to reduce the size of the photographs. Enclosed are resized
  pictures.
  Sorry.
  ak

  --
  Anand Kumar Bhatt
  A-59, B.S.F.Colony, Airport Road
  Gwalior. 474 005.
  Tele: 0751-247 2233. Mobile 0 94253 09780.
  My blogsite is at:
 http://anandkbhatt.blogspot.com
  (A NEW BLOG has been ADDED ON 9 August 2011.)
  And the photo site:
 www.flickr.com/photos/akbhatt/
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/akbhatt/(NEW PHOTOS HAVE BEEN ADDED ON 15
  March 2011.)
  ~~~
  Ten most  common surnames of Indians: Singh, Kumar, Sharma, Patel, Shah,
  Lal, Gupta, Bhat, Rao, Reddy. Cheers!

 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

[efloraofindia:76759] Re: Chamba higher reaches - id al110811

2011-08-12 Thread Ushadi micromini

Dear Alok ji:
Wonderful...subject and Picture quality...

since in the short growing season high up, this plant must get quickly
pollinated...
ANY IDEA WHAT flies around to pollinate, so the next generation of
seeds would be available...

I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION  was there a sizeable colony of these plants
around this one?

Usha di
===

On Aug 12, 6:02 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes Sir Androsace rotundifolia

 On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:



  wow!!! I love Primulaceae but seems I have never noticed this plant!!!
  Thanks for sharing...
  Pankaj

  On Aug 11, 10:04 pm, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
   I hope Androsace rotundifolia

   --
   Dr. Gurcharan Singh
   Retired  Associate Professor
   SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
   Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
   Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

   On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Alok Mahendroo alokisabe...@gmail.com
  wrote:

Dear friends,
here are some more id's from higher altitudes in Chamba

Location Chamba
Altitude 3000 mts
Habit herb
Habitat wild
Height 3 - 4 inches

regards
Alok
--
Himalayan Village Education Trust
Village Khudgot,
P.O. Dalhousie
District Chamba
H.P. 176304, India

   www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
   www.forwildlife.wordpress.com

   http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on_new.
  ..

 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

[efloraofindia:76760] Re: Zeuxine sp.

2011-08-12 Thread Ushadi micromini


good info...

Clicking on your link (Website: www.avishekb.page4.me)  returns error
404...
any idea?

Thanks
 Usha di




On Aug 11, 8:29 pm, avishek bhattacharjee avi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dear All,
 Dr. Pankaj Sahani sent me this photograph about 2 months back. This species 
 is very close to Zeuxine nervosa, Z. stenophylla (not reported from India) 
 and Z. glandulosa
  (except the leaves). I have been working on the 'Jewel Orchid' subtribe
  for last 7 years and also did my Ph.D. on the same. As per my
 experience, some species of Zeuxine, especially
  those have wide range of distribution, show high range of variation in
 foliar characteristics, no. of glands inside the hypochile, shape and
 size of labellum epichile etc. Z. nervosa is a highly variable species as it 
 occurs in INDIA (Andaman  Nicobar Islands, Arunachal Pradesh,
  Assam, Manipur,
 Nagaland, Orissa, Sikkim, West Bengal); CHINA, BANGLADESH, BHUTAN, JAPAN, 
 NEPAL, NEW GUINEA, SRI LANKA, TAIWAN,
 THAILAND, THE PHILLIPPINES, VIETNAM.

 Therefore, it is requested to consult the above mention species (3 species, 
 especially Z. nervosa)
  before drawing any conclusion. A clear illustration (habit, sepals,
 petals, lip, column, pollinarium) may be sent to me to identify   the
 species correctly. In brief, I guess it is Z. nervosa.
 Thanking you.
 Sincerely yours,
 Avishek

 [Avishek Bhattacharjee, Ph.D.]

 Research Associate

 Central National Herbarium

 Botanical Survey of India

 A.J.C.B. Indian Botanic garden

 P.O.- B.Garden, Howrah -711 103

 West Bengal, INDIA

 (Mobile: +91-9433171449)

 Website:www.avishekb.page4.me

[efloraofindia:76761] Re: Flora of Kaiga_ID_Please_11082011 PJ2

2011-08-12 Thread Ushadi micromini


some sort of bird's nest fern

have seen any really big Mature  plants in those locales??


Usha di
=

On Aug 11, 8:50 pm, PUTTARAJU K pakshirajka...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,

 Flora of Kaiga_ID_Please_11082011 PJ2.It  Commonly grows in b/w the crevices
 of the culvert covering case, which is made up of cement blocks in our
 Township garden  Park.

 Date/Time-:11/08/11   -    08:30

 Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380 mtrs

 Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-   wild

 Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Herb

 Height/Length- 7cm

 -
 With Regards,
 PUTTARAJU K,
 SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
 KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
 POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
 KARNATAKA -581400
 MOB : 9448999150
 EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
              kputtar...@npcil.co.in

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[efloraofindia:76764] Re: Plant Species ID

2011-08-12 Thread Ushadi micromini

Dear MR. Patel,
I am intrigued...

Is it a tree?  or a woody shrub?  or a herb?
how tall is it?
is it at sea level or on a hill?
what kinda flowers if any...
do you have pictures or secription of the tree trunk and bark...

Could you please tell us these things,
Tahnk you
Usha di



On Aug 12, 3:13 pm, yatin patel ystaxon...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all
 please id this plant species

 --
 yatin patel ,
 Senior Research Fellow
 Gujarat Institute of Desert Ecology
 p.o.box # 83, opp. Changleswer Temple ,Mundra Road,
 Bhuj, Kutchchh, India ,370001

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[efloraofindia:76767] Re: 09082011-BS-001 A small tree for ID from Munak Road Karnal

2011-08-12 Thread Ushadi micromini


I have since my above writing googled the possible use of leaves in
polishing...
I forget which url was it, but somewhere it says its used in polishing
wood and IVORY...
LO, Ivory???
Usha di
=

On Aug 12, 12:54 pm, Pudji Widodo pudjiuns...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Dr Balkar Singh,

 In Indonesia there are a lot of Streblus asper but I have never seen
 the flowers and fruits.  The leaves are not rough enough to polish the
 hard wood, for soft wood like Hibiscus tiliaceus is enough.  I think
 the strongest for polishing wood  is Ficus ampelas.  Thank you for
 uploading the pictures.

 Regards,
 Pudji Widodo
 Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
 PURWOKERTO 53122 INDONESIA

[efloraofindia:76769] Re: Chamba Higher reaches - impatiens... al100811b

2011-08-12 Thread Ushadi micromini

This is interesting,
s very different than the usual round flat faced Impatiens we see
sold by the nursery trade across all continents, esp North America...

HOW WOULD YOU RESOLVE THIS?
WOULD SOME ONE HAVE TO DO DISSECTION?

Usha di
=




On Aug 12, 12:30 pm, amit chauhan amitci...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Looks like Impatiens scabrida

 regards



 On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Impatiens pallida has small curved spur. This could probably be Impatiens
  laxiflora (see Flora Simlensis)

  --
  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
  Retired  Associate Professor
  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

  On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Alok Mahendroo 
  alokisabe...@gmail.comwrote:

  Dear friends...
  does this remind anyone of I. Pallida...??
  Regards
  Alok
  On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 22:12 +0530, Alok Mahendroo wrote:
   Dear friends,

   Could this be from one of the Impatiens...??

   Altitude 3000mts
   Location Chamba
   Habit herb
   Habitat wild
   plant height 20 inches

   regards
   Alok

  --
  Himalayan Village Education Trust
  Village Khudgot,
  P.O. Dalhousie
  District Chamba
  H.P. 176304, India

 www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
 www.forwildlife.wordpress.com

 http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on_new...

 --
 Dr. Amit Chauhan
 Junior Technical Assistant
 Central Institute of Medicinal and Aromatic Plants, Research Centre,
 Pantnagar, PO Dairy Farm Nagla, Pantnagar, Udham Singh Nagar, Uttarakhand
 263149
 ph.05944 234445
 mob.+919412161087
 mail: amitci...@gmail.com
 amitci...@rediffmail.com
 amit.chau...@cimap.res.in

[efloraofindia:76883] Re: Oroxylum indicum [Tetu] pods emerging

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini

Young pods are eaten in SE Asia like Thailand too! !

AND NEIL: wonderful to see the steps in its life story

thanks for taking and sharing the pictures...

Usha di
===

On Aug 13, 10:21 am, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Dr. Neil for the response.
Just thought of sharing some facts...for those who may be interested...

* It is a monotypic genus (meaning...the genus *Oroxylum *is represented by
only a single species in the world and it is *O. indicum*)
* It is a Red Listed Species (the species is facing risk owing to
over-harvesting and habitat loss)
* Though distributed across India, it is sporadic in nature and only
solitary or few trees seen here and there. but only recently we, from FRLHT,
found a large population (in thousands :) in the central Indian region.
* we all know it is one of the ten ingredients (roots) in the 'dasamoola
arishtam', an ayurvedic formulation.
* young pods are cooked and eaten as vegetable in Manipur (may be in other
NE Indian states, too), and are sold in vegetable markets here...

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote:

Thanks Dr.Balkar Dr.Vijayasankar,
The few pedicels which appear to have lost their flowers, had
actually flowered, been pollinated, dropped off in the morning and were
lying on the ground, but inadvertently forgot to photograph them.
Regards,
Neil Soares.

--- On *Sat, 8/13/11, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com* wrote:

From: Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:76804] Oroxylum indicum [Tetu] pods emerging
To: Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com
Cc: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 7:15 AM

Nice pics Neil Ji

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Vijayasankar
vijay.botan...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vijay.botan...@gmail.com
wrote:

Very interesting! Looks like the bats have done their job even before the
flowers open fully..! Or is it b'cos some other visitor found a short-cut
route to rob the nectar?!!
Its nice to see the rising of new fruits. But few pedicels have lost their
flowers...any idea why??

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Neil Soares
drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Hi,
Thought this might be interesting. Photographed at my farm last
Sundayafter successful pollination by batsTetu pods emerging.
Regards,
Neil Soares.

--
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964

[efloraofindia:76889] Re: Wild Flower for ID - 110811 - RK

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini

This is a group that is very sincere and has experts who go out of
their way to help botanists, taxonomists and non-botanist, non-
scientists alike without any demur...   I love it..

and hence it bothers me that some members take it for granted that no
matter how little they send, they are bound to get  an id ... so why
bother?



Yes, I think its carelessness or thinking that this is magic where no
matter what one sends, how little one sends, there will be experts who
will identify... so why bother may be we should have a rule ...
that no details ... no diagnosis... its  not like its the emergency
room where if we don't do any diagnosis a patient may loose life or
limb...   may be we need stricter rules?

Such submission also makes a mockery of group's rules, that you and
Mr. Garg send out so repeatedly...

It makes a mockery of efforts of those sincere folks who spend time
and effort... of  those of us who spend  a great deal of time to
submit the formatted info and good  sharp pictures with flower, leaf
(front and back if possible), size ...verbal or measure- tape in
picture along with flower or fruit,  stem, bark, tree or shrub or herb
as a whole whenever possible, and I even take pictures of surrounding
habitat if the specimen is wild and not planted in a planned garden or
forest...

Usha di...



On Aug 11, 7:26 pm, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is the typical problem we face in the process of identification. The
 author has not even indicated the place where this plant is growing. I would
 request experts to please make efforts towards this end. Any plant for ID
 should have some important details like Place, altitude, habitat, habit,
 size of plant, size of leaves, size of flowers, etc.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

 On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yes Duchesnea indica Gurcharan Ji uploaded this plant
  from Kashmir about a month or so back
  Tanay
  On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com wrote:

  Duchesnea indica  (Mock strawberry ,Indian strawberry, )

  On Aug 11, 11:31 am, ranjini kamath ranjin...@gmail.com wrote:
   Request ID of this flower.Regret i have only one clear pic of this.The
   flower is about 1cm across  is seen in the background in the 2nd
   pic.Taken in March-April 2011.Thank you
     Ranjini Kamath

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  --
  *Tanay Bose*
  Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
  Department of Botany.
  University of British Columbia .
  3529-6270 University Blvd.
  Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
  Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
             604-822-2019 (Lab)
             604-822-6089  (Fax)
  ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
  *Webpages:*
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/

[efloraofindia:76891] Re: Please identify this Coral fungus

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini


TANAY or Muthu ji: can one of you, either or or both post pic of the
microscopic slides ... of a cross section and the fruiting body of
thises two fungii if you have them

thanks Usha di




=
On Aug 13, 10:53 am, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:
 yes yes Tanayji.



 On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
  Muthu you are correct this is  *Pterula multifida*
  I think you remeber many months you posted
  this fungi and I identified it for you.

  Tanay

  On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

  Please check for *Pterula multifida *or allied.

  On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote:

  Hi,
   Photographed at my farm last Sunday. Over the last few years have
  observed these fungi encircling the bases of Carvanda [Carissa congesta]
  bushes.
   Please note that fallen leaves and other debri have been cleared to take
  these photographs.
                     Thanks,
                                           Regards,
                                             Neil Soares.

  --
  Muthu Karthick, N
  Care Earth Trust
  #15, second main road,
  Thillai ganga nagar,
  Chennai - 600 061
  Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org

  --
  *Tanay Bose*
  Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
  Department of Botany.
  University of British Columbia .
  3529-6270 University Blvd.
  Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
  Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
             604-822-2019 (Lab)
             604-822-6089  (Fax)
  ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
  *Webpages:*
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/

 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911www.careearthtrust.org

[efloraofindia:76935] Re: Flora of Panipat: Cyamopsis tetragonolobus from a kitchen Garden Panipat haryana

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini

AN important vegetable for Rajasthan Gujarat and other western
states...
And Guar gum is very popular as thickening agent in cooked packed food
industry
and ice cream industree esp where caragenean may not be allowed ...

only problem is it has a lectin that does not suit blood group B gut
epithelium and red cells especially...


Thanks Balkar ji, I had never seen its flowers...

now will you be able to go back and follow up with the fruits later...

usha di
-


On Aug 13, 12:49 pm, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All
 Cyamopsis tetragonolobus
 From a kitchen garden Panipat
 Approx 4 feet high herb. Pods used as vegetables
 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

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[efloraofindia:76978] Re: Angelica glauca from Kashmir

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini

Love this... esp the fruits
so august is when one can get both seeds and flowers coexisting...ie
middle of season for the plant

MY QUESTION, Dr SINGH :
DOES this Angelica have the telltele swollen base of the new leaf
formation
(I donot know what the technical term id for it)
like the one I had shown for the Korean angelica ... I have seen the
same formation in the Angelica archeangelica, the usual western/north
american grown angelica...

Usha di

On Aug 13, 10:49 pm, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
Awesome Sirji ... especially eh closeup of the fruits
Tanay

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote:

Wow! Superb pictures depicting most of details of the plant clearly.

Regards,
Giby

On Aug 13, 7:08 pm, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
*Angelica glauca* Edgew., Trans. Linn. Soc. London 20:53. 1846

Common name: Smooth Angelica

Perennial herb up to 2 m tall, fistular; leaves 1-2-ternate-pinnate with
oval to ovate serrate leaflets, glaucous on lower surface; Umbel
compound,
rays more than 20 with usually 5 linear bracts, involucel bracts 5-10;
flowers white; fruit 8-12 mm long, elliptic to oblong, lateral ridges
broadly winged.

Common Himalayan plant, used medicinally.

Photographed from Herbal Garden below Cheshmashahi in Kashmir in August.
--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

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[efloraofindia:76981] Re: identification no 120811sn1

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini

I have been following this thread from the minute it appeared... I see
many KAKROL plants in rural bengal as we drive by... and sometimes
stop... to look... this did not at first glance look like Kakrol (M
dioica)  we see here
AND I WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE DOUBTINGMAKES ME FEEL GOOD THAT my
doubts (although arising out if technical ignorance)  were well
founded... See Dr. Gurucharan Singh ji's comments...

 This what I have learnt from this thread

1) Photography and presentation of the question:

For any unknown cucurbitacaee it is important to not just get good
shots of the face of flowers and leaves (front and Back) but measure
the flowers across...
and if possible ( like it was here, since the maker is holding the
flower...) take a profile view of the flower... this is esp so in case
of separate male and female flowers...   or plant itself being one or
the other sex...  ands so that the length of the flower tube, abd
pedicle etc is visible and be judged...

2) Not to start agreeing with one or two or three well known botanist
(s) ...  until an exacting taxonomist studies it...

Curucumis sativus... the ordinary cucumber is miles apart in terms of
fruits' anatomy and medicinal values  from Mamordica dioica
SO we learnt a valuable lesson today...
Thanks Gurucharanji...

Usha di 
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On Aug 13, 10:43 pm, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote:
 I too think that this is Cucumis sativus L. of Cucurbitaceae family.

 Regards,
 Giby

 On Aug 12, 3:41 pm, Satish Nikam satish_ni...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Dear All,
               Is it Momordica dioica?Taken at Mulshi,Pune in Aug.11.Kindly 
  validate.
      thanks
  regards
  satish nikam

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[efloraofindia:76984] Re: Flower ID Request 13-08-2011

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini

Its not the flower that's important, its the roots../rhizomes...
my question... did you get to photograph the stem of this plant?

Usha di
==


On Aug 13, 10:34 pm, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes it is Cheilocostus speciosus (J.König) C.Specht of Costaceae
 family.

 Regards,
 Giby

 On Aug 13, 9:40 pm, Amar amarmain...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thank you, Mr. Ogale and Mr. Dungriyal!

  Regards,

  Amar

[efloraofindia:76985] Re: Please identify this Coral fungus

2011-08-13 Thread Ushadi micromini

Tanay: but dont you have slides from last year or the year before...
or cant these be stored ?


Usha di
==

On Aug 13, 7:27 pm, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Usha Di,
 Mushroom season is yet to come here in Canada.
 So I cant help now. May be Muthu can enlighten
 us.

 Thanks
 Tanay

 On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com



  wrote:

  TANAY or Muthu ji: can one of you, either or or both post pic of the
  microscopic slides ... of a cross section and the fruiting body of
  thises two fungii if you have them

  thanks Usha di

  =
  On Aug 13, 10:53 am, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:
   yes yes Tanayji.

   On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com
  wrote:
Muthu you are correct this is  *Pterula multifida*
I think you remeber many months you posted
this fungi and I identified it for you.

Tanay

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com
  wrote:

Please check for *Pterula multifida *or allied.

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

Hi,
 Photographed at my farm last Sunday. Over the last few years have
observed these fungi encircling the bases of Carvanda [Carissa
  congesta]
bushes.
 Please note that fallen leaves and other debri have been cleared to
  take
these photographs.
                   Thanks,
                                         Regards,
                                           Neil Soares.

--
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
   www.careearthtrust.org

--
*Tanay Bose*
Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
Department of Botany.
University of British Columbia .
3529-6270 University Blvd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
           604-822-2019 (Lab)
           604-822-6089  (Fax)
ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
*Webpages:*
   http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
   http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
   https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/

   --
   Muthu Karthick, N
   Care Earth Trust
   #15, second main road,
   Thillai ganga nagar,
   Chennai - 600 061
   Mob: 0091 96268 33911www.careearthtrust.org

 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 3529-6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
            604-822-2019 (Lab)
            604-822-6089  (Fax)
 ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
 *Webpages:*http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.htmlhttp://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.htmlhttps://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/

[efloraofindia:76988] Re: Ficus palmata in Kashmir

2011-08-14 Thread Ushadi micromini

never even dreamt that a ficus would be a shrubby thing...
if I dreamt it... I would have googled it...
but...
THANKS for New ... klearnign
Usha di
++

On Aug 13, 4:21 pm, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here are mines from Munak Road Karnal (228Mts)
 This plant was a shrub there having fruits
 I think this is also Ficus palmata



 On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:20 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks Sirji
  tabay

  On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

  welcome back Tanay

  --

  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
  Retired  Associate Professor
  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

    On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:02 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.comwrote:

  never seen this before
  thanks for adding sir ji
  tanay

    On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Gurcharan Singh 
  singh...@gmail.comwrote:

  Ficus palmata in Kashmir, often self sown and found less commonly in
  Kashmir, though more common in Delhi, Jammu  Punjab. Interestingly the
  leaves are mostly unlobed in majority of specimens I have seen in our 
  areas,
  that is the strange irony of plant naming. Photgraphed from Balgarden,
  Srinagar on June 17, 2010.

  --
  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
  Retired  Associate Professor
  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

  --
  Tanay Bose
  +91(033) 25550676 (Resi)
  9830439691(Mobile)

  --
  Tanay Bose
  +91(033) 25550676 (Resi)
  9830439691(Mobile)

 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

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Re: [efloraofindia:77011] Rhododendron for ID 300411MK1

2011-08-14 Thread ushadi Micromini

The above table though commendable effort,
 is typed up wrong   very wrong ...

I don't believe that this flower is 8cm long...

and the height of the shrub only 1-1.5 cms

 that's what its reading in this table of data...
PLEASE CORRECT IT SUBMIT CORRECT DATA

sorry, cant make heads or tails of this table
Usha di






On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 12:45 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

 Some earlier relevant feedback:

 “AZALEA.
 usha di”


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com
 Date: 30 April 2011 13:02
 Subject: [efloraofindia:68459] Rhododendron for ID 300411MK1
 To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


 Dear all,
 Please help to id this Rhododendron found in a garden. I have also seen
 this plant in parts of Ooty, Nilgiris.

 *Date/Time-*

 09-04-2011 / 04:30 PM

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GP*

 ca.2000asl; Kotagiri, TN

 *Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 garden

 *Plant Habit-*
  shrub

  *Height/Length-*

 1 - 1.5 cm long

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 ca.8 x 3 cm; tomentose

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*


  *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 red; c 8 cm long

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *
  not observed

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *

 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org




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[efloraofindia:77019] Re: Lindernia oppositifolia from Iruppu, Kodagu, Karnataka

2011-08-14 Thread Ushadi micromini

Thank you for the reference, WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW WASIS THIS A
NATIVE WEED, ie was present  long before pl480 weeds or is it arrived
in last 50+ years...
Usha di
==

On Aug 1, 7:04 pm, shivaprakash adavanne adava...@gmail.com wrote:
 Stems erect, not rooting at nodes; leaves linear-oblong, sessile; flowers
 solitary, axillary; corolla less than 6 mm long; Marshy herbs with blue
 flowers. A weed of paddy fields - Mysore Flora -Rao  Razi  Tamilnadu
 carnatic -KM Matthew.
 regards
 a.shivaprakash

 On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote:

  Lindernia sp. of Linderniaceae family. Would you please share the
  reference for L. oppositifolia.

  Thanks and Regards,
  Giby

  On Jul 31, 5:16 pm, shivaprakash adavanne adava...@gmail.com wrote:
   hello,
   please find attached few photos of Lindernia oppositifolia spread over
   in paddyfield (30 07 30) in Iruppu area, Kodagu, Karnataka

   regards.

   a.shivaprakash

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[efloraofindia:77022] Re: Does this variety fruit?

2011-08-14 Thread Ushadi micromini

Passiflora vitifolia is native to south american countries  from
Brazil to Nicaragua...
Pollinators are BATS,   HUMMNINGBIRDS and  BUMBLE BEES... among
others...

these flying things may not have discovered your plant... or liked
it..
there are many regional differences  or the cutting sent to India
may have been sterile
One could do manual hand pollination and see if its true or not, since
its a big flower and stamen and stigma are right out there for you to
see and touch.

just like I have never seen a Quis qualis bear fruits in Calcutta...
though in Myanmar it is a regular happening... and ourt Quis qualis
has its lineage in Myanmar... and in  Chinese medicine its an
important item... do not know what pollinators are needed or did
Myanmar gardener/horticulturists who originally sent in the specimen
to Royal Botanical gardens in Calcutta sent in duds??? knowingly???
no body has answers...  I do not have a quis qualis of my own at this
point  otherwise I would definitley try awhat I just preachedHA
HA ...

Usha di


On Aug 13, 9:14 pm, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote:
 I Think *Passiflora vitifolia*

 On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 6:33 PM, ajinkya gadave 
 ajinkyagad...@gmail.comwrote:



  Passiflora coccinea

  On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com wrote:

   Your photograph is a proof that the plant flowers.   The question you
  might be asking is :  where(in which place)?

  On Aug 13, 5:01 pm, Marianne de Nazareth mde.nazar...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Hi,

   Does this variety of the Passion Flower fruit?

   regds,

   Marianne

   --

   Former Asst. Editor The Deccan Herald
   Freelance Journalist
   Adjunct faculty St. Joseph's College  COMMITShttp://
  mariannedenazareth.blogspot.com/

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 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
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 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964

[efloraofindia:77023] Re: Need ID - Anshi NP

2011-08-14 Thread Ushadi micromini

Yes please follow the guidelines

Garg ji has provided these recently: I quote from his posting...
 Sure, why not? But pictures at per posting guidelines will be
helpful.
You can see Detailed  Brief posting guidelines at
https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/posting-guidelines. 
end quote

Usha di
=

On Aug 13, 10:23 pm, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote:
 I too would like to encourage you to give supportive information
 regarding the plants whenever you post pictures for id in the
 prescribed format of our group, as Manudev pointed out.
 My guess for the given pictures stands for species of Chionanthus of
 Oleaceae family.
 If you can provide information on flowers it would be easy to reach
 species.

 Regards,
 Giby

 On Aug 13, 2:16 pm, Raptor Conservation raptorconse...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

  Hi all,
   
  Not sure what this tree is! Any help is much appreciated.
   
   
  Best regards,
  Dr.Pranay Rao Juvvadi,
  General Secretary, Raptor Conservation Foundation,
  1-10-63/4, Chikoti Gardens , Begumpet,
  Hyderabad-500 016,
  Andhra Pradesh, India .
  Mobile No: (091) 9866978785
  Email: raptorconse...@yahoo.com 

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