Thanks Viplav ji for the detailed explanation and the info... I now take it that both the specimens posted by me are M. emarginata.
Thanks and regards Alka Khare On Monday, November 17, 2014 2:44:30 PM UTC+5:30, Viplav Gangar wrote: > > > Thanks Alka ji for sharing these images. Have been travelling and was out > of touch with the eflora emails last week. > > Both of these plants appear to be *Malpighia emarginata *DC. It exhibits > substantial variation in the shape/size of the leaves and of the fruit > considering the wide number of cultivars of this particular species. The > leaf apex can also be acute <http://eol.org/data_objects/20637131>. > > Have attached a PDF illustrating some of the variations in the leaf & the > fruit of *M. emarginata*. [Source: > http://www.upov.int/edocs/mdocs/upov/en/tc_edc/2011/tg_acero_proj_3_e.pdf] > > The young leaves of many *Malpighia* spp. (incl. *M. emarginata*) are > often covered with bristly hairs but this is usually absent in *M. glabra > <http://collections.si.edu/search/tag/tagDoc.htm?thumb=true&recordID=nmnhbotany_10328413&hlterm=malpighia%2Bglabra&inline=true>*, > named > after its hairless, smooth, and glossy leaves. > > The flower photos are not very clear but the style & stamen arrangement in > your plants is apparently indicative of *M. emarginata*. Please see the > attached line drawings from an early reference on this genus by J. Vivaldi > (1980). > > From what I've noticed, the cultivated specimens in Mumbai often passed > off as *M. glabra* are usually that of *M. emarginata*. > > Have also attached J. Vivaldi's monograph on Malpighia (1980) as well as a > more recent key to these two species by W. R. Anderson (2007). > > Best wishes, Viplav > > El 13 de noviembre de 2014, 9:10, Alka Khare <alk...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> escribió: > >> >> Viplav ji, I think, I have both, M. glabra and M. emarginata in my small >> balcony garden. >> Am attaching pics of both for comparison. >> >> Some differences observed are: >> >> - Sometimes, leaves of M. glabra have fine hair like things on the >> surface (can be seen in pic Malpighia glabra_3), whereas those of M. >> emarginata are completely grabrous. >> - Shape of leaves >> - Fruits of the former are small as compared to the latter, though I have >> not tasted either. >> >> Kindly validate >> >> Thanks and regards >> Alka Khare >> >> >> >> >> On Monday, November 10, 2014 12:23:24 PM UTC+5:30, Viplav Gangar wrote: >>> >>> >>> There are some good pointers on "*Malpighia glabra* vs *M. emarginata"* >>> in the online Herbarium of the University of Michigan >>> <http://herbarium.lsa.umich.edu/malpigh/Intro/Keys1.html>. Please refer >>> to the remarks in the "Uses" and the key to these two species at the bottom >>> of this page >>> <http://herbarium.lsa.umich.edu/malpigh/MalpClade/Malpighia/Malp1.html#Uses> >>> . >>> >>> Have also attached some relevant notes on *M. **emarginata* extracted >>> from the paper "Genetic Resources of Tropical and Sub-Tropical Fruits >>> and Nuts <http://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PNAAW619.pdf>" published by the >>> IBPGR Secretariat in July 1986. >>> >>> The obtuse-emarginate-apiculate leaves (as seen in the photographed >>> plant) and the tangy fruit taste akin to Star Fruit (as described by Nadeem >>> ji) are indicative of *M. emarginata*. The fruit of *M. glabra* is said >>> to be "insipid" overall. >>> >>> Best wishes, Viplav >>> >>> El 9 de noviembre de 2014, 18:18, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> escribió: >>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: 9 November 2014 16:56 >>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:204646] Bush for ID Tiruvannamalai Tamil >>>> Nadu NAW-OCT-29 >>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes . For me also Malpighia glabra. Any how please check >>>> for Malpighia punicifolia also before confirming the ID. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 10:16 AM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>> >>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>> *Malpighia emarginata* DC. [Malpighiaceae]. >>>>> Best wishes, Viplav >>>>> yes >>>>> barbados cherry >>>>> i had one in my balcony >>>>> and Dalia Set showed some here at indiatreepix in 2011 or early 2012 >>>>> >>>>> usha di >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, Viplav ji, >>>>> I think it may be Malpighia glabra >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malpighiaceae/malpighia/malpighia-glabra> >>>>> as >>>>> *Malpighia emarginata* is not listed anywhere at Malpighia >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malpighiaceae/malpighia> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: Nadeem Waqif <nadeem...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: 29 October 2014 21:10 >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:204646] Bush for ID Tiruvannamalai Tamil Nadu >>>>> NAW-OCT-29 >>>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kindly identify this bush with edible fruit photographed an the >>>>> Marudam Farm >>>>> School, Tiruvannamalei, Tamil Nadu in September 2014. >>>>> >>>>> The bush may have been pruned to keep the fruit with reach of the >>>>> children, height about 1.5 metres. Pink flowers about 15 mm wide. 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