Thank you very much Surajit Ji, Sharma Ji and Bimal da, I still have some doubts about the identity although I have a manuscript of Flora of Sikkim Volume 1 in hand (unpublished) but it is not clearly leading on to the species. In fact when I failed after trying the key given in this work, I posted the photo here. I will go to CAL after the forthcoming festival and will look at the relevant specimens there. I hope that I shall be able to clarify the situation after that. Regards, Tapas.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:19 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks, Sarma ji. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: gajench sarma > Date: 14 October 2015 at 12:44 > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:232184] Stephania species (Menispermaceae) for > ID > To: "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> > > > dear sir, > > > The species only known as Stephania japonica. > > g.c.sarma > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 4:23 AM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >> >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> >> Can it be Stephania glandulifera? As per The Useful Plants of India (CSIR >> Publication in Sikkim it is known as KUNTEA-POT)- from Bimal >> ji. >> Of three species you have mentioned, I think, we can exclude *S. elegans* >> Hook. >> f. & Thomson, since the species has leaves longer than wide. Please check >> Rawat Sir's upload - >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/cmvI7WDFsOA/ZhrioRSkDCwJ. >> There are several herbarium in KEW >> <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getHomePageResults.do?homePageSearchText=Stephania+elegans&x=13&y=10&homePageSearchOption=scientific_name&nameOfSearchPage=home_page> >> site also. >> >> As per BSI drupes of *S. glandulifera* Miers are sessile >> <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=1773&type=4>. >> Your plate shows drupes are not sessile. >> >> Strangely enough BSI thinks we, in West Bengal, have only *S. elegans*! >> Perhaps the species is distributed in Darjeeling (as per KEW herbarium >> collection). >> >> BSI gives distribution of *S. japonica* var. *discolor* in >> http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=1781&type=5 which >> excludes West Bengal. But, I have identified my collection using illustration >> (and description) of Flora of China >> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=111781&flora_id=2>. >> The threads can be accessed at - >> >> 1. >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/rSLlHVKjymc/vwdBGyNYxwUJ >> 2. >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/7BaBAHfLvM0/DVeXu-y_FuUJ >> >> I am attaching a few pics here for your perusal. I think your species is >> same, because drupes can be pedicellate in this species. >> >> Moreover, I am confused regarding BSI key on nerves of leaves (at key 2 >> <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=1763&type=3>). >> Because *S. glandulifera* can have 5 to 9 nerves as per BSi description >> <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=1773&type=4>! >> >> Thank you >> Regards >> surajit >> >> efi page on Stephania japonica var. discolor >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/menispermaceae/stephania/stephania-japonica-var-discolor> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Tapas Chakrabarty <tchak...@gmail.com> >> Date: 19 September 2015 at 22:30 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:232184] Stephania species (Menispermaceae) for ID >> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >> >> >> A climber in subtropical forests of Sikkim at about 6000' altitude. >> I am not getting the species. 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