---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> Date: 10 November 2017 at 11:49 Subject: Re: [itpmods:11254] Re: A question- Who has used the search in efi site ? To: itpmods <itpm...@googlegroups.com> Cc: Anil Thakur <anilthakur2...@gmail.com>, DineshValke < dinesh.va...@gmail.com>, "D.S Rawat" <drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com>
I further checked up with google search to find out about the same species available in efi &* FOI *in this genus. Results are as below: Codonopsis clematidea - efloraofindia - Google Sites <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=15&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiI2-_jqLHXAhWGsI8KHatEBfc4ChAWCDwwBA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-clematidea&usg=AOvVaw0bLOQsnSQ5r2Rg1psNJ3y8> (efi page appeared at 15th place)- *FOI (appeared at 2nd place)* Codonopsis ovata - efloraofindia - Google Sites <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=12&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi-yOKJrLHXAhUGpY8KHRkPA744ChAWCCswAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-ovata&usg=AOvVaw2WzpGGC3em3_ucZTwxRxwV> (efi page appeared at 11th place)- *FOI (appeared at 2nd place)* Codonopsis gracilis - efloraofindia - Google Sites <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjW0cierLHXAhWHpY8KHaSOAWoQFgg7MAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-gracilis&usg=AOvVaw35jYzSnEIZaYLqaoZIup3Q> (efi page appeared at 2nd place)- *FOI (appeared at 4th place)* Codonopsis rotundifolia - efloraofindia - Google Sites <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjSyuOVqK7XAhUERY8KHcfSD1cQFghHMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-rotundifolia&usg=AOvVaw17zlAH_kwKmstZPW6VFRyN> (efi page appeared at 5th place)- *FOI (appeared at 4th place)* Codonopsis pilosula <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-pilosula> (efi page does not appear on simple search, but appears on top while searching with efloraofindia word)- *FOI (appeared at 9th place)* Codonopsis lanceolata <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-lanceolata> (efi page does not appear on simple search, but appears on top while searching with efloraofindia word)- *FOI (Does not appear even on search at Codonopsis lanceolata + flowersofindia)* Codonopsis viridis <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-viridis> (efi page does not appear even on search at Codonopsis viridis + efloraofindia)- *FOI (appeared at 1st place)* >From the above, it appears that this problem is there in FOI also, but to a lesser extent. This may be due to FOI pages being much more older and popular due availability of images on their pages since the beginning, while we have started adding images only since last two years. May I request others to comment in the matter pl. On 9 November 2017 at 16:37, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > I further checked up with google search to find out about all the species > in efi in this genus. > Results are as below: > Codonopsis clematidea - efloraofindia - Google Sites > <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=15&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiI2-_jqLHXAhWGsI8KHatEBfc4ChAWCDwwBA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-clematidea&usg=AOvVaw0bLOQsnSQ5r2Rg1psNJ3y8> > (appeared > at 15th place) > Codonopsis ovata - efloraofindia - Google Sites > <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=12&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi-yOKJrLHXAhUGpY8KHRkPA744ChAWCCswAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-ovata&usg=AOvVaw2WzpGGC3em3_ucZTwxRxwV> > (appeared > at 11th place) > Codonopsis gracilis - efloraofindia - Google Sites > <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjW0cierLHXAhWHpY8KHaSOAWoQFgg7MAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-gracilis&usg=AOvVaw35jYzSnEIZaYLqaoZIup3Q> > (appeared > at 2nd place) > Codonopsis rotundifolia - efloraofindia - Google Sites > <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjSyuOVqK7XAhUERY8KHcfSD1cQFghHMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-rotundifolia&usg=AOvVaw17zlAH_kwKmstZPW6VFRyN> > (appeared > at 4th place) > Codonopsis pilosula > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-pilosula> > (does > not appear on simple search, but appears on top while searching with > efloraofindia word) > Codonopsis lanceolata > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-lanceolata> > (does > not appear on simple search, but appears on top while searching with > efloraofindia word) > Codonopsis viridis > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-viridis> > (Does > not appear even on search at Codonopsis viridis + efloraofindia) > > Can anyone explain this ? I am unable to understand this. > > On 8 November 2017 at 11:42, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks, Anil ji, >> This is really strange. In both ways I could not find efi page on >> Codonopsis viridis (page created on 11/2/11). >> >> But for search on Codonopsis rotundifolia, this page appeared at 4th >> place like Codonopsis rotundifolia - efloraofindia - Google Sites >> <https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjSyuOVqK7XAhUERY8KHcfSD1cQFghHMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fefloraofindia%2Fspecies%2Fa---l%2Fc%2Fcampanulaceae%2Fcodonopsis%2Fcodonopsis-rotundifolia&usg=AOvVaw17zlAH_kwKmstZPW6VFRyN> >> (page >> created on 26/8/12). >> >> What could be the reason ? >> >> >> On 8 November 2017 at 11:06, Anil Thakur <anilthakur2...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Garg ji >>> I think, there is no problem in searches on efloraofindia page. If you >>> search in google, most of the time you will not get results for your search >>> due to lack of tags. >>> I searched for Codonopsis viridis and found no results in google. When >>> searched for Codonopsis viridis and efloraofindia, the results appeared. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 08-Nov-2017 10:41 AM, "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, everybody, for the overwhelming feedback. >>>> The main purpose was to know as to whether our moderators are aware >>>> about this or not. >>>> >>>> It carries many advantage over manual browsing as it shows results of >>>> similar/ confusing species also. >>>> >>>> I will explain this by giving an example. e.g. On searching on >>>> *''Codonopsis >>>> viridis''*, I got the following results in the following order: >>>> Codonopsis viridis >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-viridis> >>>> Codonopsis >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis> >>>> Codonopsis rotundifolia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-rotundifolia> >>>> Campanulaceae >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae> >>>> Valley of flowers- List of plants >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/general-eposts/general-efi-posts/treks-walks-trips-talks-etc---details/list-of-plants> >>>> >>>> The above shows that results have been shown on priority with main >>>> search page being shown first. Genera page Codonopsis >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis> >>>> is >>>> shown because it contains details of all the species including the searched >>>> one. Codonopsis rotundifolia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-rotundifolia> >>>> is >>>> shown as it has been confused with the searched species in some earlier efi >>>> discussions. In fact two of the posts of Codonopsis rotundifolia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-rotundifolia> >>>> were wrongly identified earlier as Codonopsis viridis >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-viridis>, >>>> which I corrected yesterday. Family page of Campanulaceae >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae> >>>> is >>>> shown as it contains comparative images of all the Codonopsis species >>>> including that of the searched one. Valley of flowers- List of plants >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/general-eposts/general-efi-posts/treks-walks-trips-talks-etc---details/list-of-plants> >>>> is >>>> also shown as it also contains the name of plants found in the valley of >>>> flowers. >>>> >>>> The above search results tells you a lot of things, which may be >>>> helpful to the searcher in many ways including getting proper >>>> identification. >>>> e,g. if somebody posts images of Codonopsis viridis, while including in >>>> efi site, I will search on Codonopsis viridis and get these results. Than I >>>> will open both pages of Codonopsis viridis >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-viridis> >>>> and >>>> Codonopsis rotundifolia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis/codonopsis-rotundifolia> >>>> in >>>> separate windows. After going through images at both species pages, I will >>>> conclude to myself whether posted species has been correctly identified or >>>> not. If it does not match with images at either of the pages, than I will >>>> also open the page of Codonopsis >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/codonopsis> >>>> for >>>> seeing the comparative images and finally nailing down the id & advising so >>>> on the group. >>>> >>>> I hope this exercise has lessons to those who are not aware of the >>>> importance of this aspect. >>>> >>>> Pl. give your feedback, if you feel it has been of some use to you. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6 November 2017 at 14:37, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> May I request you to pl. let me know who has used search in efi site >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/home> & who has not. >>>>> This is just for my curiosity & to know the acquaintance of members in >>>>> this matter so that it is highlighted to members, if required. >>>>> Just a simple *yes* or *no* will do. >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>> >>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>> the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or >>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). >>>>> >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>> etc. >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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You can also use them for free as >>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>> >>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>> India'. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to itpm...@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/itpmods. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to itpm...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/itpmods. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as > per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > India'. > -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images). The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. 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