Thanks Pankaj ji. For so many details. Though annual inspections are there, if the keepers are eaters then what you can do. I have no proof but once I have also taken a small favour not in cash but in kind. Regards.
On Feb 13, 2018 10:15 AM, "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks, Pankaj ji, for detailed reply, for the benefit of everybody. > > On 13-Feb-2018 6:17 AM, "Pankaj Kumar" <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Respected Tapas sir > My reply was for your comment, "This means that most of the cultivated > orchids are hybrids.". Which I said, is not true. > Many people collect plants from wild and then cultivate it in their > garden. Propagate them from wild collected plants and sell them. This is > true for India and extremely true for our neighbours like China. All > cultivated plants are not hybrids. Unlike India, the collection of fruits > from wild orchids is considered ok in other countries, and they easily get > permission for it. In India it is illegal. Hence if someone grows plant > from fruits collected from wild, its not right. You were at BSI I think and > I am sure you know better than me that this happens. Some wild collected > orchids are directly going out of India via Myanmar or China, ultimately to > China. I have come to know of this, but have no proof. A few weeks back > forest department confiscated tubers of wild orchids at Myanmar border, > just one of many incidents that I know of because they sent me the pics to > identify. > There is a process in Indian government where experts are told to visit > these nurseries to do annual or once in five year check and if any nursery > is doing so then their license is cancelled. Due to which some growers in > KALIMPONG were banned to export. Although grower claimed that it was due to > personal differences that he was framed. This also happens. I have nothing > personal against anyone. But what I am worried about is, Indian government > must take strong steps to protect its biodiversity because in India it is > more animal and tiger-centric than habitat or plant-centric protection. 11 > out of around 1400 species of orchids are protected which itself is a > shame. Someone have rare and endemic Vandas from India in USA!! and he is > making hybrids out of them and earning fame!! Where did he get those Vandas > from? Please have a look at the Indian Orchids group on facebook, very > often you can see people displaying wild orchids. In Ooty and Kodaikanal > they sell wild orchids on the roadside (I have seen myself). Last year, one > population of Paphiopedilum was wiped out by poachers and what they > couldn't collect, they sprayed kerosene and burnt at the site so that > others cant collect. These are just a few things of the bigger picture for > which I am concerned. > Thanks and regards > Pankaj > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:04 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty <tchak...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> In Flower Shows local nurseries and individuals participate. I have no >> knowledge whether they are selling them or if selling then who are clients. >> As regards Kalimpong, there are large nurseries who propagate orchids >> vegetatively and export. They are not supposed to collect anything from >> wild nor export any restricted species. >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 12, 2018 6:39 PM, "Pankaj Kumar" <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> If they are collecting orchids from wild then the forest department >>> needs to have a good reason to give them the permit. If they are selling >>> hybrid orchids then of course it is fully legal. >>> BUT, Paphiopedilum spicerianum is protected by Forest Protection Act of >>> India. I am not sure if Indian government can give permission for this >>> species. Dendrobium lindleyi in your list is a wild species. If they can >>> prove that it is propagated then they can legally sell to US. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 7:41 PM, Tapas Chakrabarty <tchak...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> This is fully legal business they are doing. First they are approaching >>>> Forest & Plantation Development Corporation, Govt. of WB. Then the plants >>>> are quarantined and finally there is sealing of Orchids in wooden boxes >>>> with Govt. tags in presence of Govt. officials with verification of name of >>>> each peace. I was going there regularly on behalf of BSI for identity >>>> verification during my tenure at Gangtok. >>>> >>>> On Feb 12, 2018 4:58 PM, "Pankaj Kumar" <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Some one has to report to the forest department to take action with >>>>> some proof. Otherwise nothing can be done to stop them. >>>>> Pankaj >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, February 12, 2018, Tapas Chakrabarty <tchak...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Garg ji. >>>>>> Pankaj ji >>>>>> This means that most of the cultivated orchids are hybrids. >>>>>> The orchid breeders of Kalimpong do not adopt this practice. They are >>>>>> exporting several species of orchids in bulk and each piece is fetching >>>>>> 10-20 USD per piece depending on the species. >>>>>> Thanks and regards. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 12, 2018 11:36 AM, "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12-Feb-2018 10:49 AM, "Pankaj Kumar" <sahanipan...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cattleya hybrid. >>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:02 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, Tapas ji. >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>> From: "Tapas Chakrabarty" <tchak...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> Date: 11-Feb-2018 10:26 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:288196] Flower Show at Agri-Horti Society, >>>>>>>>> Kolkata- 4 >>>>>>>>> To: "efloraofindia" <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> Cc: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ************************************************************ >>>>>>>> ********************************************************** >>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Office*: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Conservation Officer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Residence*: >>>>>>>> House no. 39, 2nd Floor, Shui Wo Tsuen >>>>>>>> Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>>>>>> *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 <2483%207128> (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 >>>>>>>> 9436 6251 <9436%206251> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>>>>>> <2483%207194> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ************************************************************ >>>>> ********************************************************** >>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>> >>>>> *Office*: >>>>> >>>>> Conservation Officer >>>>> >>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>> >>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>> >>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>>> >>>>> *Residence*: >>>>> House no. 39, 2nd Floor, Shui Wo Tsuen >>>>> Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>>> *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com >>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 <2483%207128> (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 >>>>> 9436 6251 <9436%206251> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 <2483%207194> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ************************************************************ >>> ********************************************************** >>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>> >>> *Office*: >>> >>> Conservation Officer >>> >>> Orchid Conservation Section >>> >>> Flora Conservation Department >>> >>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >>> *Residence*: >>> House no. 39, 2nd Floor, Shui Wo Tsuen >>> Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com >>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 <2483%207128> (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 >>> 9436 6251 <9436%206251> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 <2483%207194> >>> >>> > > > -- > ************************************************************ > ********************************************************** > *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. > *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* > > *Office*: > > Conservation Officer > > Orchid Conservation Section > > Flora Conservation Department > > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > *Residence*: > House no. 39, 2nd Floor, Shui Wo Tsuen > Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com > *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 > (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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