Giving a new name doesn't take much time though and you will surely live to
see the new name if given, dont worry. BUT, I advice not to give, Because,
this seems more like a garden cultivar than a wild one.

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 at 11:49, Ushadi Micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> you are right, Pankaj
>
> i am all for lumping in classification
> but in this case i would go for splitting, and  create a new species, name
> it away from t. divaricata
> may be genetic studies will show enough differences to split it off from
> t. divaricata
>
> but i wont live to see it!!!
>
> giving ideas to professors to direct some ms or phd candidates?
> ms may be. good project
> who knows
> usha di
>
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 8:50 AM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Pankaj ji, Ushadi and Saroj ji
>>
>> On Tue 30 Oct, 2018, 6:02 AM Pankaj Kumar, <sahanipan...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The website calls it Tabernaemontana divaricata and the common name is
>>> Gardenia barbados.
>>> I believe this is a hybrid or a double petaled polyploid form of T.
>>> divaricata and not the original T. divaricata.
>>> Pankaj
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 at 08:23, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you for information Ushadi.
>>>>
>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 at 5:26 am, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> i used to  have one also,  but
>>>>> neglect killed it one year when i was tending to some relatives'
>>>>> terminal illness.
>>>>>
>>>>> description says its flowers  have scent
>>>>> but mine locally sourced, did not.
>>>>> so there must  two variants:
>>>>> one with scent
>>>>> another  without.
>>>>>
>>>>> i have seen and experienced very fragrant variety double tagar plants
>>>>> in a long row in a temple
>>>>> in Bihar.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:54 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you. Ushadi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also have this plant with me.
>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 11:05 PM Ushadi Micromini <
>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this site calls it
>>>>>>> <https://nccbarbados.gov.bb/commercial/garden-centre>
>>>>>>> gardenia barbados
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you have to scroll and scroll till almost halfway down this loooong
>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 6:14 AM Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is one of the hybrids of Tabernaemontana divaricata I think.
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Pankaj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 at 23:40, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> yes
>>>>>>>>> often scented
>>>>>>>>> usha di
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes Ushadi!
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Was it labelled ?
>>>>>>>>> To me looks different from images at Tabernaemontana
>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/apocynaceae/tabernaemontana>‎
>>>>>>>>>   -
>>>>>>>>> from me
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry, it was not labeled Mr. Garg !
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 20:31
>>>>>>>>> Subject: SK1469 25 Sep 2018
>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <
>>>>>>>>> jmga...@gmail.com>, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Members,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Location: Hong Kong Park
>>>>>>>>> Date: 15 August 2018
>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 200 ft.
>>>>>>>>> Habit : Cultivated
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tabernaemontana divaricata (L.) R.Br. ex Roem. & Schult.  ??
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ******************************************************
>>>>>>>> ****************************************************************
>>>>>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Office*:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
>>>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436
>>>>>>>> 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Usha di
>>>>>>> ===========
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Usha di
>>>>> ===========
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ******************************************************
>>> ****************************************************************
>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D.
>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia*
>>>
>>> *Office*:
>>>
>>> Orchid Conservation Section
>>>
>>> Flora Conservation Department
>>>
>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China
>>>
>>> *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com
>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251
>>> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Usha di
> ===========
>


-- 
******************************************************
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*Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D.
*IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia*

*Office*:

Orchid Conservation Section

Flora Conservation Department

Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
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