many of those pdfs did not load when i was looking at them. their endeavor and our endeavor are two different things.
only posterity will say which will serve general community better. Usha di =========== On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 1:04 PM Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote: > No I am not talking about changing pdfs. But the matter on these pdf on > the Nepal flora is more detailed (yet incomplete) than ours. > > On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 15:23, Ushadi Micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Pankaj >> >> you mean convert our pages to pdf? >> but why? >> Gargji is constantly revising and correcting the pages as he gets new >> cases, new information and he gets to that page. >> pdf wont allow that, would it? >> >> you are right about the fact that this website for Nepal flora is a >> collaboration. >> its a serious collaboration >> and extensive scientifically precise documentation and classification >> on their website there is a button for image gallery >> in addition to superb photographs, in more than 2500 pages >> there are 6 or 8 pages that show people involved working, collecting etc >> and the process... >> at url : http://www.floraofnepal.org/imagegallery#2 >> herbarium specimen being examined under dissecting microscope for help >> in precise classification. >> >> this is in contrast to what we do, we donot have herbarium, nor a >> lab.... only member submitted photographs >> in some cases we do get good quality photographs and can do >> classification and identification. >> >> but often when pictures are not upto par, some of us say so, >> wanting to leave things as either unided, dubia as Gurcharanji calls it, >> or just give it family or genus level diagnosis, >> yet some of our more courageous members ( i am being charitable here) >> go ahead and give a diagnosis down to species level, sometimes even >> cultivar level... or subspecies level... >> thats frustrating ... at scientific level. >> >> >> I think, for us to get to be similar to such sites, we need to be >> stricter in our enthusisam to classify and pass judgements down to species >> level in most of our such incomplete cases. >> >> == >> Googling for "use of dissecting scope in study of herbarium specimen" >> got me 165,000 pages and lots of images >> >> one of which is this >> [image: For the taxonomic revision of Atocion and Viscaria , flowers from >> herbarium specimens were boiled, dissected, and the character states >> observed under the stereomicroscope. Here the flower of Viscaria alpina , >> with removed calyx. Quantita- tive floral characters were measured using a >> digital image analysis system. The measures are indicated here as >> originally displayed (photo B. Frajman, July 2007).] >> >> <https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Heliosperma-macranthum-represents-one-of-the-three-main-evolutionary-lineages-in_fig5_266498385> >> *For the taxonomic revision of Atocion and Viscaria , flowers from >> herbarium specimens were boiled, dissected, and the character states >> observed under the stereomicroscope. Here the flower of Viscaria alpina , >> with removed calyx. Quantita- tive floral characters were measured using a >> digital image analysis system. The measures are indicated here as >> originally displayed (photo B. Frajman, July 2007). * >> >> >> >> POINT of this is that that classification and naming of species is a >> serious and time consuming business. >> >> cant always be done on point and shoot or cell phone camera pictures. >> Usha di >> =========== >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 2:08 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Indeed Pankaj. Dr. Bhaskar Adhikari is also involved in this [roject ! >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 11:23 AM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Pankaj ji. A great thought. >>>> >>>> On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 09:59, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Please remember that the Flora of Nepal is run by professional >>>>> botanists in collaboration of Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh and Japan. I >>>>> really appreciate their efforts. This is something similar which BSI >>>>> should >>>>> have done for India. >>>>> I do wish that someday we convert our efloraofindia into something >>>>> similar. >>>>> Best regards >>>>> Pankaj >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 12:22, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> wonderful start >>>>>> >>>>>> do we now also have a Nepal page(?) >>>>>> Usha di >>>>>> =========== >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:49 AM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> What I find is that only some 26 odd families have detailed accounts >>>>>>> with keys (Flora of Nepal- Online accounts >>>>>>> <http://www.floraofnepal.org/onlineflora>) etc. while some others >>>>>>> are in the process. >>>>>>> However, images and herbarium specimens, may be available beyond >>>>>>> these families also in Image gallary at Home page >>>>>>> <http://www.floraofnepal.org/home> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 at 20:57, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you Mr. Garg. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I a referring time and again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 12:21 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 12:05 >>>>>>>>> Subject: Flora of Nepal- Online accounts >>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Flora of Nepal- Online accounts >>>>>>>>> <http://www.floraofnepal.org/onlineflora> is now available online >>>>>>>>> and can be pursued through search or family wise. >>>>>>>>> I think Home page <http://www.floraofnepal.org/home> further >>>>>>>>> offers pdf version along with Gallary of images, herbarium specimens >>>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>>> We have to use it extensively as till now we have to rely on Flora >>>>>>>>> of China as BSI flora online version is not working since long. >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) >>>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of >>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use >>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) >>>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of >>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use >>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFAN5r0L1wvUUuO6kj8jMutbFQq5dLwa1rUEp_zr8s4zYA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFAN5r0L1wvUUuO6kj8jMutbFQq5dLwa1rUEp_zr8s4zYA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAEf%3DytQntxrvMPf1d6OXhV8rYD41CQ24G56732qZdDdR_LDMsg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAEf%3DytQntxrvMPf1d6OXhV8rYD41CQ24G56732qZdDdR_LDMsg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for >>>>>>> free >>>>>>> as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>>> of India'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFBeqeLcMEqSKWBFR5MayBoBj1%2BW2yCk_4WmYUzTVav%2B-w%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFBeqeLcMEqSKWBFR5MayBoBj1%2BW2yCk_4WmYUzTVav%2B-w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CANAwU1X8%3Dp8%3D0YpWrs3LZdhRP%3Dn6hLWCAX5f_tkN-kzHAF6sSg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CANAwU1X8%3Dp8%3D0YpWrs3LZdhRP%3Dn6hLWCAX5f_tkN-kzHAF6sSg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ****************************************************** >>>>> **************************************************************** >>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>> >>>>> *Office*: >>>>> >>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>> >>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>> >>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>>>> >>>>> *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com >>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >>>>> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CABpo8%3D0GHvG1gvFT7Op9Xoii4rqPqG4nJ685SekoL_7_kVkPiQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CABpo8%3D0GHvG1gvFT7Op9Xoii4rqPqG4nJ685SekoL_7_kVkPiQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >>>> 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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