---------- Forwarded message --------- From: ushadi <microminipho...@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 13:56 Subject: Re: [itpmods:13321] Fwd: Leaf veins are important for id in closer species To: itpmods <itpm...@googlegroups.com> Cc: Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com>
here are some very detailed papers on some families by botanists for current plants such as this one: Leaf venation patterns in the genus *Saxifraga* https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Nianhe_Xia/publication/281747103_Leaf_venation_patterns_in_the_genus_Saxifraga_Saxifragaceae/links/5639690d08aed5314d2220ea/Leaf-venation-patterns-in-the-genus-Saxifraga-Saxifragaceae.pdf?origin=publication_detail but most that I found very useful as a start was from Paleobiology department at the Smithsonian institution Title *Manual of Leaf Architecture* its a manual ISBN 0-9677554-0-9 one can easily download it I thought I had saved the URL but cant find it in this pdf file its very useful I like these as a starting point [image: leaf area classification for leaf vein paleobotany.png] and [image: Leaf size compare ready figures for Paleobotany.png] and for leaf venation nomenclature see next note.... continued regards Usha di On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 1:25 PM ushadi <microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: > Pankaj > So p foetida has the most stomata > I wonder why? > > good use of Idle time ... I would say ideal ( pun intended) ha ha > > > Regards > Ushadi > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:10 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks, Pankaj ji. >> >> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:56, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Here is one of my first articles I had worked on 2001 but published in >>> 2003. Not an extraordinary article but gives an idea about how >>> flair morphology can be used in plant identification. >>> I had just given my masters exam and was sitting ideal for 2 months, so >>> please dont judge me with this article. >>> Thanks and regards >>> Pankaj >>> >>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 12:05, Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan < >>> ponsant...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> That is true Garg ji, French institute Pondicherry used document that >>>> data, They will put a white paper over the leaf and do a pencil tracing to >>>> record actual vein pattern. >>>> *Thanks ®ards* >>>> *Dr. Santhan P* >>>> *Industrial R&D expert, Plant taxonomist* >>>> Author of the Book *"Trees of our Life" *Botany, Chemistry, Medicine >>>> *9**444813474/9620389349* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 9:16 AM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:16 >>>>> Subject: Re: Leaf veins are important for id in closer species >>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Also once we narrow down to a genus, it is quite possible to get >>>>> species id even with only leaves, by matching the leaf veins. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 09:13, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>> Now that we have plenty of photographs in efi site, I find that leaf >>>>>> veins play an important role in id not only for general posts, but also >>>>>> for >>>>>> species which otherwise may look similar and confusing. >>>>>> I generally try to check this aspect when I am not getting sure of >>>>>> the id otherwise. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>> >>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>>>>> >>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>> of India'. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>> >>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>>>> >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>> etc. >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>> >>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>>> India'. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>> >>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>>>> >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>> etc. >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CANAwU1Ufr9CspPEa-0atbEOk-88rx_3nnhfvV0Orq%2BESgzOHUg%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CANAwU1Ufr9CspPEa-0atbEOk-88rx_3nnhfvV0Orq%2BESgzOHUg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. 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