This is really interesting information Sir. Takes one back to pre-school and primary school experience! and what a coincidence that Rumex is being discussed too right now! Thankyou for sharing the same.
regards, Rashida. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Since we are talking about wooden slates, those who must have used wooden > slates (Takhti) must be knowing that there are two ways of doing this: > > 1. First way is to smear the surface of slate with a suspension of white > clay, allow it to dry and then wright with normal ink using wooden pen > (kalam)........black/blue black on white. > > 2. Second way includes moving slate over a flame of oil lamp in such a way > that it gets covered with soot. The next step is to rub the fresh leaves of > Rumex so that the soot sticks firmly on the slate, and then rub back of > inkpot on the slate to give it a shine (ghota). This black slate is then > written on using the suspension of white clay.........white on black > > Lucky for modern children, no messing around and no hard work. simple > slates and crayons, most self rubbing/easing rubbing. > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Dear Gurcharan sir >> >> Thanks a lot for putting it in simple words. >> >> TO OTHER MEMBERS, I would just like to request that whatever >> information you are adding, is what you known with the best of your >> knowledge. So please dont keep insisting to prove yourself right and >> others wrong and then ask other for references. >> >> This is a humble request to maintain a cordial atmosphere in the group. >> >> Thanks for the support and keep posting. >> >> Regards >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Read hurt for hart >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > Retired Associate Professor >> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I would request members to desist from comments which can hart others, >> >> even though they may be made obliquely. It has been the result of great >> >> efforts by many of us that we see such an hormonious and cordial >> atmosphere >> >> in this group. Let not any single action undo this great effort. This >> is my >> >> humble request. >> >> >> >> There are several references to support that epithet scholaris is >> derived >> >> from the old practice of making slates from its wood. The practice of >> using >> >> the whorl of leaves for giving degrees may have been a secondary >> development >> >> as suggested by Rashida ji. I did not find any refrence of this being >> the >> >> original reason/source of name scholaris. Besides references provided >> by >> >> Rashida ji, here are some more. The first link itself should settle the >> >> issue. There perhaps hundreds of links supporting the same. I am giving >> >> few): >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.britishmuseum.org/the_museum/news_and_press_releases/press_releases/2009/india_landscape.aspx >> >> >> >> >> http://raokln.blogspot.com/2010/11/alstonia-scholaris-scholar-tree.html >> >> >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/346584555/ >> >> >> >> http://www.djibnet.com/photo/palai/alstonia-scholaris-2288526504.html >> >> >> >> >> http://www.jagtapnursery.com/demo/plants/trees/satvin-devils-tree-96.php >> >> >> >> http://www.indi-journal.info/archives/3269 >> >> >> >> http://www.prcupcc.org/herbs/herbsd/deviltree.htm >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://homeopathyworldcommunity.com/photo/alstonia-scholaris?context=featured >> >> >> >> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Devil%20Tree.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://gardeningwithwilson.com/2010/01/05/appreciate-the-beauty-of-alstonias/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://medicinalplants-india.blogspot.com/2008/02/alstonia-scholaris-saptparni.html >> >> >> >> http://recordingnature.wordpress.com/ >> >> >> >> >> http://asp.learn.net.in/photos/view.php?id=346584555&/Alstonia-scholaris >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> >> Retired Associate Professor >> >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:10 PM, promila chaturvedi >> >> <thegardener.chaturv...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Anadi Ji, >> >>> thanks for the answer. But Electricity Board can do it. They do not >> need >> >>> to take the permission. Some times they may take undue advantage of >> it. >> >>> Others cannot do the same. >> >>> Promila >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Anandi Sharan < >> sharan.ana...@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> dear promila ji >> >>>> >> >>>> the funny thing is that electricity board without permission does it >> >>>> all the time -- when i asked them for their permission note they said >> >>>> they did not have one and that they did not need one. i will check >> >>>> this again now that you remind me. >> >>>> green greetings >> >>>> anandi >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 6:45 PM, promila chaturvedi >> >>>> <thegardener.chaturv...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> > The Blackboards, which were used in the classes in my time, >> >>>> > weremadefrom >> >>>> > Scholar's tree. Hence the name Alstonia scholaris. >> >>>> > Kiran Ji, choping the braches of trees is ban in Delhi. If somebody >> >>>> > does it >> >>>> > without forest department's writtenpermision can be sued, and the >> >>>> > penalty is >> >>>> > one year jail or Rs. 80,000=00 fine or both. >> >>>> > Promila >> >>>> > >> >>>> > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:24 AM, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com >> > >> >>>> > wrote: >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> This is still a practice in Viswa Bharati university >> >>>> >> shantiniketan, west bengal India >> >>>> >> Tanay >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Pankaj Kumar >> >>>> >> <sahanipan...@gmail.com> >> >>>> >> wrote: >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> Its called SCHOLARIS because, the old times plates of leaves were >> >>>> >>> exclusively used to give away degrees to the students. >> >>>> >>> Pankaj >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:37 PM, tanay bose < >> tanaybos...@gmail.com> >> >>>> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >>> > The state tree of Bengal >> >>>> >>> > tanay >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Pankaj Kumar >> >>>> >>> > <sahanipan...@gmail.com> >> >>>> >>> > wrote: >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> One of the local names of Alstonia scholaris is CHHATIM or >> CHATNI >> >>>> >>> >> CHAAL. >> >>>> >>> >> The bark is supposed to be very useful for blood purification >> >>>> >>> >> especially in case of diabetes or Jaundice in Jharkhand as >> well >> >>>> >>> >> as in >> >>>> >>> >> Ayurveda. Thats why Mr. Nalwade must have seen bark scrapping. >> >>>> >>> >> Pankaj >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:41 PM, kiran srivastava >> >>>> >>> >> <srivastava...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >>> >> > A little trivia: Large branches of the big Alstonia >> scholaris >> >>>> >>> >> > tree >> >>>> >>> >> > behind >> >>>> >>> >> > the house I temporarily stay in Delhi was cut down >> ostensibly >> >>>> >>> >> > to >> >>>> >>> >> > allow >> >>>> >>> >> > the >> >>>> >>> >> > sun rays on the flower bed in the small park. Apparently, >> the >> >>>> >>> >> > local >> >>>> >>> >> > garden >> >>>> >>> >> > community had this tree trimmed by the NDMC authorities. But >> it >> >>>> >>> >> > wouldn't >> >>>> >>> >> > surprise me if branches of trees are cut to allow the sun in >> >>>> >>> >> > winter >> >>>> >>> >> > to >> >>>> >>> >> > warm >> >>>> >>> >> > up courtyards that are otherwise completely blotted from the >> >>>> >>> >> > the >> >>>> >>> >> > sun. I >> >>>> >>> >> > have >> >>>> >>> >> > seen it happen. Before it was trimmed the flowers were >> within >> >>>> >>> >> > touching >> >>>> >>> >> > distance from the 2nd floor terrace. >> >>>> >>> >> > There are several trees such as Semul (Bombax malabaricum) >> and >> >>>> >>> >> > Siris >> >>>> >>> >> > (Albizia lebbek) growing in small, old colony roads whose >> >>>> >>> >> > branches >> >>>> >>> >> > have >> >>>> >>> >> > spread widely blocking sunlight in homes. They could be >> trimmed >> >>>> >>> >> > especially, >> >>>> >>> >> > if old people want to sit out and soak in the sun during >> >>>> >>> >> > Delhi's >> >>>> >>> >> > winters...and this winter its really cold. >> >>>> >>> >> > Cheers, >> >>>> >>> >> > Kiran Srivastava >> >>>> >>> >> > >> >>>> >>> >> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Rashida Atthar >> >>>> >>> >> > <atthar.rash...@gmail.com> >> >>>> >>> >> > wrote: >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> Ajay ji according to info. in the book 'Trees of Mumbai' pg >> 51 >> >>>> >>> >> >> ..." >> >>>> >>> >> >> In >> >>>> >>> >> >> olden days the wood of this tree was used to make slates >> for >> >>>> >>> >> >> children, >> >>>> >>> >> >> hence scholaris." The book further adds "The dita bark of >> the >> >>>> >>> >> >> tree >> >>>> >>> >> >> is >> >>>> >>> >> >> used >> >>>> >>> >> >> in Indian medecine for treating asthma and heart ailments, >> >>>> >>> >> >> fever >> >>>> >>> >> >> and >> >>>> >>> >> >> diarrhoea.During the Diwali festival, the bitter bark is >> >>>> >>> >> >> consumed >> >>>> >>> >> >> before >> >>>> >>> >> >> eating sweets to neutralize the excessive intake of sugar." >> >>>> >>> >> >> regards, >> >>>> >>> >> >> Rashida. >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Ajay Nalawade >> >>>> >>> >> >> <analawa...@gmail.com> >> >>>> >>> >> >> wrote: >> >>>> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>> We noted Some Bark scraping in Konkan region. >> >>>> >>> >> >>> Can anybody tell for which purpose this bark is used??? >> >>>> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Arijit Banerjee >> >>>> >>> >> >>> <ari...@gmail.com> >> >>>> >>> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> Alstonia scholaris in fruit, >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> Patuli, Kolkata, India >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> 8 January 2011 >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> The fruits do look quite similar to those of Wrightia >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> tinctoria >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> (Khirni) >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> Arijit Banerjee >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> > >> >>>> >>> >> > >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> -- >> >>>> >>> >> *********************************************** >> >>>> >>> >> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >>>> >>> >> Research Associate >> >>>> >>> >> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >> >>>> >>> >> Department of Habitat Ecology >> >>>> >>> >> Wildlife Institute of India >> >>>> >>> >> Post Box # 18 >> >>>> >>> >> Dehradun - 248001, India >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>> > -- >> >>>> >>> > Tanay Bose >> >>>> >>> > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant. >> >>>> >>> > Department of Botany. >> >>>> >>> > University of British Columbia . >> >>>> >>> > 3529-6270 University Blvd. >> >>>> >>> > Vancouver, B.C. 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V6T 1Z4 (Canada) >> >>>> >> Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile) >> >>>> >> 604-822-2019 (Lab) >> >>>> >> 604-822-6089 (Fax) >> >>>> >> ta...@interchange.ubc.ca >> >>>> >> >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> ---- >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > Retired Associate Professor >> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> *********************************************** >> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> Research Associate >> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project >> Department of Habitat Ecology >> Wildlife Institute of India >> Post Box # 18 >> Dehradun - 248001, India >> > > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > >
