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THANKS
MADHURI
--- On *Mon, 19/9/11, Dinesh Valke /<dinesh.va...@gmail.com>/* wrote:
From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82269] Names of Plants in India ::
QUERY (Marathi)... bhat ghagari
To: "Rathinasabapathy Bhuvaragasamy" <brspa...@gmail.com>,
"efloraofindia" <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
Cc: formpeja...@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, 19 September, 2011, 11:40 AM
Many thanks Madhuri ji for working on the bhat ghagari ... it has
helped thrash the ambiguity.
Most of /Crotalaria/ species have some of their names related to
sound; more related to child's rattle toy ... thus, in various
languages:
English: cat's bell, rattlepod, rattlebox, shack-shack
Gujarati: ઘૂઘરો ghugharo
Hindi: घुंगरी ghungri, झुनझुनिया jhunjhunia
Marathi: डिंगळा dingala, खुळखुळा khulkhula, फटफटी phatphati
Kannada: ಗಿಜಿಗಿಜಿ ಗಿಡ gijigiji gida
... and so on.
Rathinasabapathy ji, ... not knowing the reason why you are not
able to see the picture put in my message ... link to that picture
in my flickr photostream is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/4174379450/
Many thanks for showing pictures of /Crotalaria verrucosa/ at your
blog.
Regards.
Dinesh
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Rathinasabapathy Bhuvaragasamy
<brspa...@gmail.com
<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=brspa...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Pl. go through the link (pict. of C.v). I am not able to open
the pict. from yr. mail.
http://nbranaikatti.blogspot.com/search?q=Crotalaria+verrucosa+
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:37 AM, <formpeja...@yahoo.com
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wrote:
Yes it is called as Khulkhula in Marathi? Then not surname
but that aa pronunciation will be correct. Because it
means the people who praise God!!! They are the
stutipathak of God, Rajas etc. So they will be making some
ringing noise isn't it of bell or ghungaru!
Thanks for making me think.
I hope matter is clear
Madhuri
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*Subject: *Re: [efloraofindia:82249] Names of Plants in
India :: QUERY (Marathi) ... bhat ghagari
... yes, the seedpods make rattle-like noise.
Here are seed-pods of /Crotalaria speciosa/ which look
similar to that of /C. verrucosa/
Khulkhula (Marathi: खुळखुळा)
<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4174379450%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc1QOlwwOZi7wOgNI5K_zQHysdEMQ>
Some of the meanings of भाट [ bhata ] are:
1 ... A place in the sea or a river which appears at low
water; a shoal, shallow, sand- bank.
2 ... An elevated and level spot occurring in arable land;
dry therefore and fit only for the inferior grains.
3 ... Ground prepared for sugarcane: also a plantation of
sugarcanes.
4 ... A class of people or an individual of it. They are
minstrels or bards.
5 ... ... An empty chatterer.
Regards.
Dinesh
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Madhuri Pejaver
<formpeja...@yahoo.com
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wrote:
Had read your other meanings , but could not make
anything out of it unless
1, how or what is the shape of the fruit?
2. Does it make any noise when dry?//
3,because all meanings given by you indicate noise. So
it has to be related to either noise or shape.
Ghagar is the word generally used by Bhats/ dont know
but think so, because others use kalashi?
This is all scrathing brain not knowlege. but trying
to get it.
--- On *Mon, 19/9/11, Dinesh Valke
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wrote:
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Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82175] Names of Plants
in India :: QUERY (Marathi) ... bhat ghagari
To: "Madhuri Pejaver" <formpeja...@yahoo.com
<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=formpeja...@yahoo.com>>
Cc: "efloraofindia"
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Date: Monday, 19 September, 2011, 1:15 AM
Many thanks Madhuri ji.
But what does भट in भट घागरी mean ? any idea ?
Other than घागरी being plural of घागर meaning a
vessel or pot (made of copper, brass, or earth) to
hold water, ... the other meanings of घागरी are: a
bell or jingling ball (as of a child's girdle, or
as worn on the toes by dancing girls &c.); the
fruit of a plant commonly known as घागरा.
Regards.
Dinesh
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Madhuri Pejaver
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wrote:
perfect!
will try, time is a great constrain.
isnt Ghagri means the pot called ghagar?
plural of it?
So pot like appearence?
--- On *Sun, 18/9/11, Dinesh Valke
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wrote:
From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:82175] Names
of Plants in India :: QUERY (Marathi) ...
bhat ghagari
To: "Madhuri Pejaver"
<formpeja...@yahoo.com
<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=formpeja...@yahoo.com>>
Cc: "efloraofindia"
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Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 3:49 PM
Madhuri ji ... did you mean to say भट
घागरी ? ... any meaning for this भट as a
prefix to घागरी
Meaning of घागरी
1 ... A bell or jingling ball (as of a
child's girdle, or as worn on the toes by
dancing girls &c.)
2 ... The fruit of घागरा.
3 ... The plant commonly घागरा
Have attached a javascrpted-HTML for
generating Devanagari script ... you may
try your hand at it.
Regards.
Dinesh
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Madhuri
Pejaver <formpeja...@yahoo.com
<http://in.mc947.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=formpeja...@yahoo.com>>
wrote:
would have to try once that Marathi
font. will do soon.
Pronounce it as Marathi surname.
Madhuri
--- On *Sun, 18/9/11, Dinesh Valke
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wrote:
From: Dinesh Valke
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Subject: [efloraofindia:82154]
Names of Plants in India :: QUERY
(Marathi) ... bhat ghagari
To: "efloraofindia"
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Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011,
1:20 PM
Dear Marathi-knowing friends,
Crotalaria verrucosa L.
<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5926671005%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcXiLXPDH0nuvkG1dxUtjHmacu8vg>
One of the names for /Crotalaria
verrucosa/ L. is bhat ghagari ...
ENVIS - FRLHT
<http://envis.frlht.org/plant_details.php?disp_id=672&parname=0>
Not sure how is bhat spelt in this
context ... would it be भाट घागरी
OR भात घागरी OR yet any other word ?
Regards.
Dinesh
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Nilgiri Biosphere Nature Park
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