Thanks, Chadwell ji, for deep insights. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: C CHADWELL Date: 22 September 2016 at 20:58 Subject: Re: Fwd: Plantago asiatica Linnaeus To: "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com>
Yes, it is a *Plantago*. Stewart lists 4 species from Ladakh; Dickore & Klimes list 5. The images do not match either *P.lanceolata* or *P.major* which are 'cosmopolitan' weedy species also found in the UK - though probably separate varieties are found in the Himalaya. So that leaves *P.depressa*, *P.gentianoides* and *P.himalaica*. Stewart does not mention *P.asiatica* subsp. *erosa* but does include *P.erosa* Wall. though not from Ladakh - only Baluchistan and Hazara plus, perhaps, Peshawar. He does list *P.asiatica* var. *angusta* from Hazara and Kashmir. *P.asiatica* is generally understood to be found in China (and Japan). According to Stewart, *P.depressa* is common in Ladakh. *P.himalaica* is common on high meadows in Kashmir. The images look close to what has been identified as *P.himalaica* on the 'Flowers of India' site. This also seems to match images on another site: http://www.planetefleurs.fr/Systematique/Plantaginaceae/Pltago18a.html According to the images provided by the eflora of Pakistan, the images do not match *P.gentianoides*. *In conclusion, whilst the plant photographed by Saroj might be* *Plantago himalaica, I am uncertain about distinguishing between* *this and forms of P.depressa. Some of the evidence available is* *contradictory.* *Can anyone help?* Best Wishes, Chris Chadwell 81 Parlaunt Road SLOUGH SL3 8BE UK http://www.shpa.org.uk/ ------------------------------ *From:* J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> *To:* efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> *Cc:* Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Thursday, 22 September 2016, 7:30 *Subject:* Fwd: Plantago asiatica Linnaeus It may be *Plantago asiatica *subsp.* erosa* (Wallich) Z. Y. Li as only this subspecies is found in India as per Catalogue of Life <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/645c99898d34893b2e44d7fff4096f86> The Plant List Ver.1.1 <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2571417> IPNI <http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do?id=20007836-1> GBIF <http://www.gbif.org/species/7507109> Flora of China <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250096584> India Biodiversity Portal <http://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/253268> Kerala plants <http://keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Plantago_erosa> Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantago_asiatica> Floristic Diversity of Assam: Study of Pabitora Wildlife Sanctuary <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=Ckl21aP7I0oC&pg=PA272&lpg=PA272&dq=Plantago+erosa+%2B+india&source=bl&ots=NXc4twvbhI&sig=08P-XWJ9rXMH2nL6uckYcoH28as&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj3j8n1q6LPAhVKH5QKHUJ6AwkQ6AEITDAJ#v=onepage&q=Plantago%20erosa%20%2B%20india&f=false> By Bora, Yogendra Kumar (2003- details) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *J.M. Garg* <jmga...@gmail.com> Date: 19 September 2016 at 17:13 Subject: Fwd: Plantago asiatica Linnaeus To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> I think seems to match with images of *Plantago asiatica* as per the following: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantago_asiatica http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Asian%20Plantain.html -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. 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